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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 10:44 AM
Published: 2012/01/21 (jambands.com)

Dickey Betts Will Tour in 2012, Accept Grammy with The Allman Brothers Band
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Though he never actually retired from touring—as he claimed a few years ago—Dickey Betts has limited his nights on the road recently. But the guitarist will tour in 2012. Dickey Betts & Great Southern will pay select dates in March, April and June, with the possibility that additional shows will be added in the coming months. In the final few months of 2011, Betts performed with both onetime Great Southern/Allman Brothers Band guitarist Dan Toler and Gregg Allman’s son Devon.
In other news, Betts has confirmed that he will attend the 2012 Grammy Awards, where the Allman Brothers Band will receive a Lifetime Achievement Award. A note on the guitarist’s Facebook page says, “We are very proud and excited to announce that the Allman Brothers Band was been honored with a Lifetime Achievement Award, which will be presented to the band at the 2012 Grammy Awards, taking place on Sunday, February 12. Dickey Betts will be on hand to accept the award along with the other members of the band. This will be an exciting and historic moment that you do not want to miss!” There is no word yet as to whether Betts will perform with his former band.
Here’s a look at Dickey Betts & Great Southern’s upcoming shows
March 9 Jackson, CA—Jackson Rancheria Casino &
March 10 Las Vegas, NV—Canner Y Casino
April 25 New Brunswick, NJ—State Theatre
April 26 Ridgefield, CT—Ridgefield Playhouse
April 28 New York, NY—Concert Hall
June 7 Bethlehem, PA—Musikfest Café

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 11:41 AM
Hmmmm...

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 12:05 PM
Seems like the right thing to do. Without Dickey there wouldn't have been an Allman Brothers Band as we know it.

About time to bury the hatchet anyhow, ain't it?

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by Drummy]

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 12:52 PM
I read somewhere that the will actually receive the award on Saturday and be mentioned on Sunday. But wouldn't it be something if they performed together, or as Drummy said, at least bury the hatchet?

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 02:25 PM
This is great news.......... might make me cry...........its way past due............time to let the pass go..............bury the hatchet..........however you wanna say it............come on guys ya'll were BROTHERS and still are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If they were to play a song wouldn't matter to me which one. Just seeing them all together again as brothers is what matters most!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But if I HAVE to pick one song..........I would pick "Blue Sky".............That songs means so much to me and my life..........even named my 9month old after this song!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 02:40 PM
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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:08 PM
Ain't that the truth.... I for one, would really love to see that step taken.

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:16 PM
Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.
 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:19 PM
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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:36 PM
He's not going to show.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:41 PM
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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.


You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 03:57 PM
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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.


You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by robslob]


Rob,

I have a tendency to see it pretty much as you lay it out. This and other related threads paint a lot of optimism, however I'm thinking the award in itself, will be as about as good as it gets for togetherness. The actions & quotes from band members make me doubt that much more can be expected. I'd be shocked if we see Dickey on stage with the others again. Would I like it...hell yeah. But expectations tell me differently.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2012 at 04:07 PM
I would love to see Gregg and Dickey reconcile. To see them play together again is not likely.
I would settle for the Allman Brothers(any version) playing Atlanta again. END THE ATLANTA ABB EMBARGO !?

 

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  posted on 1/22/2012 at 09:00 AM
Such pessimism . Like I always said , it'll happen , YOU'LL SEE !!
 

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  posted on 1/22/2012 at 11:25 AM
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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.


You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by robslob]


Rob,

I have a tendency to see it pretty much as you lay it out. This and other related threads paint a lot of optimism, however I'm thinking the award in itself, will be as about as good as it gets for togetherness. The actions & quotes from band members make me doubt that much more can be expected. I'd be shocked if we see Dickey on stage with the others again. Would I like it...hell yeah. But expectations tell me differently.


I also tend to agree with this...HOWEVER:

Warren and Derek are clearly devoting more attention outside the ABB. Would it be crazy to think that they might do one more tour with Dickey full time and Derek and Warren alternating parts of the tour?

I also believe money talks and if Dickey rejoined for some new music and a tour (the farewell tour??) it would gross huge!

 

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  posted on 1/22/2012 at 11:43 AM
Why can't it just be that they MAY all be seen behind a podium together receiving a gold-painted piece of plastic on a block of wood? I am surprised to hear this news and would be surprised if it came to fruition. Not holding my breath.
 

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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.


You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by robslob]


Rob,

I have a tendency to see it pretty much as you lay it out. This and other related threads paint a lot of optimism, however I'm thinking the award in itself, will be as about as good as it gets for togetherness. The actions & quotes from band members make me doubt that much more can be expected. I'd be shocked if we see Dickey on stage with the others again. Would I like it...hell yeah. But expectations tell me differently.


I also tend to agree with this...HOWEVER:

Warren and Derek are clearly devoting more attention outside the ABB. Would it be crazy to think that they might do one more tour with Dickey full time and Derek and Warren alternating parts of the tour?

I also believe money talks and if Dickey rejoined for some new music and a tour (the farewell tour??) it would gross huge!


With the players currently in the band, and the chemistry, I'd be surprised to see some sort of alternating between Derek & Warren.

As far as money and speculation of a huge gross if Dickey was to be part of a tour - 1) I don't think they can charge any more than the prices that they're currently getting for shows. I doubt the addition of Dickey would add significantly to ticket sales to justify a price increase and 2) I'm guessing that most of the current band is set financially enough at this stage that they aren't looking for some way to increase revenue.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2012 at 01:21 PM
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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure.


Disagree. His current level of playing is not going to bring people to the shows....I'm guessing most "classic rock" fans who might be considered "returning or new fans"...are not even aware that he was ever gone.

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You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.


Agreed. You've nailed it here Rob.

 

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Money talks. If they are thinking of packing it in soon, one more tour with dickey would sell more tickets for sure. I think the last 10 years have been great musically for the Abb but to have dickey ao stage again would be amazing even if they only play once together, it would be fantastic. I am not holding my breath though and I really don't expect the Grammy broadcast to mention the abb in more than a sound bite but ya never know.


You're a dreamer and a fantasizer. Apparently you missed the Dickey threads/posts here over the last 5 years. One youtube in particular of Dickey w/ Great Southern was SO godawful bad that it was outright embarrassing. So if you think the other guys are gonna let it all go and bring him back on board.........I just don't happen to think that you're living in the real world, or anything close to it. I'm not slamming Dickey........he's a LEGEND, many of his compositions are legendary, and will always be a part of ABB. That said..........ABB as a live act has gotten much, MUCH better since Dickey left the band. No Lifetime Achievement Award is gonna change that.

PS: I'm really glad to hear that Dickey will be at the Grammy Awards; he certainly should be.

[Edited on 1/21/2012 by robslob]


Rob,

I have a tendency to see it pretty much as you lay it out. This and other related threads paint a lot of optimism, however I'm thinking the award in itself, will be as about as good as it gets for togetherness. The actions & quotes from band members make me doubt that much more can be expected. I'd be shocked if we see Dickey on stage with the others again. Would I like it...hell yeah. But expectations tell me differently.


I also tend to agree with this...HOWEVER:

Warren and Derek are clearly devoting more attention outside the ABB. Would it be crazy to think that they might do one more tour with Dickey full time and Derek and Warren alternating parts of the tour?

I also believe money talks and if Dickey rejoined for some new music and a tour (the farewell tour??) it would gross huge!


With the players currently in the band, and the chemistry, I'd be surprised to see some sort of alternating between Derek & Warren.

As far as money and speculation of a huge gross if Dickey was to be part of a tour - 1) I don't think they can charge any more than the prices that they're currently getting for shows. I doubt the addition of Dickey would add significantly to ticket sales to justify a price increase and 2) I'm guessing that most of the current band is set financially enough at this stage that they aren't looking for some way to increase revenue.


Set financially - I don't know. We all think celebrities are rich until we find out they've burned through their money and have to continue for that reason alone. Did Kreutzmann not just say that about Garcia?

Make more money than they do now? Absolutely because they could sell out larger venues in more locales. The ABB have a stronghold on the East Coast, but limit touring elsewhere, I suspect due to time and lack of enough fan base.

Creatively Warren and Derek (and the others b/c they're ALL contributing now, esp Gregg) are at a very high level PERFORMING. But as good as they are now, Dickey's playing would be a better compliment to either than they are to each other. I mean come on, I LOVE this lineup, but we all know where almost every solo is going, it's only how it's going to get there.

And, W and D clearly prefer to channel their creative juices outside the band.

I'm not "predicting" a reunion, but I do believe it would be a creative and financial step forward.

 

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  posted on 1/22/2012 at 02:24 PM
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I wonder if Duane meant that in the good way, as in complimenting a guitar player by saying "You are one baaad player, dude!"

Or if he meant it in the literal sense, referring to Dickeys temper and sometimes violent nature?

 

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Make more money than they do now? Absolutely because they could sell out larger venues in more locales. The ABB have a stronghold on the East Coast, but limit touring elsewhere, I suspect due to time and lack of enough fan base.

But as good as they are now, Dickey's playing would be a better compliment to either than they are to each other. I'm not "predicting" a reunion, but I do believe it would be a creative and financial step forward.


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Make more money than they do now? Absolutely because they could sell out larger venues in more locales. The ABB have a stronghold on the East Coast, but limit touring elsewhere, I suspect due to time and lack of enough fan base.

But as good as they are now, Dickey's playing would be a better compliment to either than they are to each other. I'm not "predicting" a reunion, but I do believe it would be a creative and financial step forward.


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I agree V. Dickey could never handle not being "the man" as he was for so many years. The rest of the band isn't going to sacrifice their cohesiveness. A one off (one set - not 2 1/2 hours) would be a nice fantasy. But somehow, I think the Idea would eventually go over as well as bringing your old fiance over to the house on your anniversary with the thought of having a menage-a-trois

 

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  posted on 1/23/2012 at 09:52 AM
I don't know rob, I think both you and Tom are dreaming. You for thinking the niners would beat the giants and Tom thinking betts will be back!! ;-). Sorry, couldn't help myself, giants fan here!!
 

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A man can all of a sudden give a sh!t and focus on a goal. A lil practice and support from friends, family, and fans can go along way. It all depends on motivation, and from my own experiences.....reconciliation is a powerful powerful thing.

 

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Make more money than they do now? Absolutely because they could sell out larger venues in more locales. The ABB have a stronghold on the East Coast, but limit touring elsewhere, I suspect due to time and lack of enough fan base.

But as good as they are now, Dickey's playing would be a better compliment to either than they are to each other. I'm not "predicting" a reunion, but I do believe it would be a creative and financial step forward.


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I agree V. Dickey could never handle not being "the man" as he was for so many years. The rest of the band isn't going to sacrifice their cohesiveness. A one off (one set - not 2 1/2 hours) would be a nice fantasy. But somehow, I think the Idea would eventually go over as well as bringing your old fiance over to the house on your anniversary with the thought of having a menage-a-trois


IMO, it will need to be a perfect storm for Betts to ever return in a meaningful way, but part of that would be either Derek or Warren or both spending more/all of their time away from the band. Is that really inconceivable?

As far as Dickey being the man or not, well, that's up to him how he handles it. But if he were to return with a positive attitude and playing well, why the hell SHOULDN'T he be?

I think we all tend to get caught up in the truly magical stuff this band is kicking out now - I mean for those of us that like this kind of thing, it's really something. BUT, go back and listen to the original lineup every once in a while - even though it's not fresh and much of it is from poor quality recordings (comp to today). Part of the appeal of the original was that Duane and Dickey had very different styles. There isn't as much difference between W & D. Dickey's melodic playing would be a better compliment to either W or D than they are to each other.

Just think of Statesboro, after all that amazing slide, when Dickey finally plays, part of what's really attention getting is HOW he plays.

I'm not trying to say Warren and Derek play similarly, they obviously don't. But just as coffee goes pretty good with OREO cookies, milk goes better. IMO.

 

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