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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:03 PM
I got this for Christmas from my lovely wife and have been savoring and absorbing it for a couple of weeks now. A few quick thoughts....

--There was a thread a while back on this board criticizing this set for not being every note of all 6 shows Jimi played at Winterland in October 1968. While I can respect the completists who make that argument, I think 4 CDs is just about right. One disc with highlights from each night, and a fourth with other goodies that didn't fit on the first 3. There are probably some good performances that got left out, but it can't be much.

--The sound quality! My goodness, this sounds amazing. I don't know if I've ever heard live Hendrix where his guitar sounded so clear, so powerful, so perfect. I just can't rave enough about how good this box sounds. I had the single disc "Live At Winterland" that Ryko put out in the 80s, but even the performances that I was familiar with sound brand new to my ears.

--If you've been looking for a good Intro To Hendrix 101 for a friend, look no further. Jimi is absolutely on top of his game here, both on guitar and vocally, and you get a little bit of everything that made him such a legendary musician. Long jams like Tax Free, serious blues like Red House and Hear My Train A-Comin', two great versions of Like A Rolling Stone, and tight, fiery versions of classics like Purple Haze.

--Both versions of Are You Experienced? on here are a revelation to me. One of my all-time favorite songs, Hendrix didn't play it live often, and I've NEVER heard it sound like this. I almost cried the first time I heard the 10/11/68 version. Just incredible...

Like many Hendrix fans, I often complain about the stewardship of his legacy, but I have to give some props to Experience Hendrix for this one. Job well done!

Now if they can just release the 7/30/70 Maui show in similar quality, I can die a happy man

 
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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:31 PM
Another great review by Rob Johnson. There's no question, brother, you are in the right line of work. I wish Hugh were here to give his 2 cents.

As for the set, you sold me. I'm adding it to my Wishlist at Amazon.

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:39 PM
I've heard there's a pretty good review of it in the current Hittin' The Note

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:41 PM
The versions of Red house on this set are worth the cost alone. blistering. Makes you shake your head, look at your guitar and silently mumble "why?"

[Edited on 1/10/2012 by jfk2112]

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:42 PM
I am no longer in that line of work, pixielf, but thanks just the same.

Jim, I know anything Hendrix-related is in good hands at HTN with you around You did a great job on Valleys of Neptune.

 
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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 08:04 PM
Thanks Rob, I did seem to inherit your Hendrix reviews which is a great thing for me, and hopefully the readers like them too. I love the new Winterland. you're right about the sound, it is pristine. so much better than the the Rykodisc release.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 09:16 PM
thanks i might look into this.

i don't care what anyone says i haven't heard anything yet that sounds like the hendrix family putting out crap just to make money. everything seems to be released with care

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 09:18 PM
Awesome review! I want!

 

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I got this for Christmas from my lovely wife and have been savoring and absorbing it for a couple of weeks now. A few quick thoughts....

--There was a thread a while back on this board criticizing this set for not being every note of all 6 shows Jimi played at Winterland in October 1968. While I can respect the completists who make that argument, I think 4 CDs is just about right. One disc with highlights from each night, and a fourth with other goodies that didn't fit on the first 3. There are probably some good performances that got left out, but it can't be much.

--The sound quality! My goodness, this sounds amazing. I don't know if I've ever heard live Hendrix where his guitar sounded so clear, so powerful, so perfect. I just can't rave enough about how good this box sounds. I had the single disc "Live At Winterland" that Ryko put out in the 80s, but even the performances that I was familiar with sound brand new to my ears.

--If you've been looking for a good Intro To Hendrix 101 for a friend, look no further. Jimi is absolutely on top of his game here, both on guitar and vocally, and you get a little bit of everything that made him such a legendary musician. Long jams like Tax Free, serious blues like Red House and Hear My Train A-Comin', two great versions of Like A Rolling Stone, and tight, fiery versions of classics like Purple Haze.

--Both versions of Are You Experienced? on here are a revelation to me. One of my all-time favorite songs, Hendrix didn't play it live often, and I've NEVER heard it sound like this. I almost cried the first time I heard the 10/11/68 version. Just incredible...

Like many Hendrix fans, I often complain about the stewardship of his legacy, but I have to give some props to Experience Hendrix for this one. Job well done!

Now if they can just release the 7/30/70 Maui show in similar quality, I can die a happy man


Rob, the biggest problem with the Maui show will be that it was so windy that Mitch had to retrack his drums in the studio and his drums really didn't sound good at all - neither on the original or the doctored version. I have it on CD and DVD and as you know it was one of his greatest shows but unfortunately was not given the documentation it deserved.

As a matter of fact, it was the first tape I ever received in trade, and it wasn't even a trade, nor did I have a tape player, but I found a way to listen to it. And it came from a guy by the name of Rob Johnson....

Glad your'e diggin' the box. I've had literally 3 or 4 complete sets of that Winterland stand (6 discs) the last being the box that Mike Jeffrey's Estate put out, but that was sourced from mp3s and really didn't sound as good as it should have. Now it does....

Next up needs to be the Royal Albert Hall show, absolutely one of his best performances, which is on the Experience docket (CD & DVD) but no release date yet, and the Atlanta Pop Festival on DVD and on CD in its entirety.

You and I have shared our Hendrix passion over the years and there are very few, if any, fans as Rabid as true Hendrix fans.....not just the greatest guitarist, IMHO, but probably the greatest rock musician. No one before or since has ever had such command of his instrument and was more creative in terms of sound innovation, as well as composition. The guy totally had it all. There never was anyone like him and there never will be again. The most original musician of our lifetime.....

[Edited on 1/10/2012 by brofan]

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 03:40 AM
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I got this for Christmas from my lovely wife and have been savoring and absorbing it for a couple of weeks now. A few quick thoughts....

--There was a thread a while back on this board criticizing this set for not being every note of all 6 shows Jimi played at Winterland in October 1968. While I can respect the completists who make that argument, I think 4 CDs is just about right. One disc with highlights from each night, and a fourth with other goodies that didn't fit on the first 3. There are probably some good performances that got left out, but it can't be much.

--The sound quality! My goodness, this sounds amazing. I don't know if I've ever heard live Hendrix where his guitar sounded so clear, so powerful, so perfect. I just can't rave enough about how good this box sounds. I had the single disc "Live At Winterland" that Ryko put out in the 80s, but even the performances that I was familiar with sound brand new to my ears.

--If you've been looking for a good Intro To Hendrix 101 for a friend, look no further. Jimi is absolutely on top of his game here, both on guitar and vocally, and you get a little bit of everything that made him such a legendary musician. Long jams like Tax Free, serious blues like Red House and Hear My Train A-Comin', two great versions of Like A Rolling Stone, and tight, fiery versions of classics like Purple Haze.

--Both versions of Are You Experienced? on here are a revelation to me. One of my all-time favorite songs, Hendrix didn't play it live often, and I've NEVER heard it sound like this. I almost cried the first time I heard the 10/11/68 version. Just incredible...

Like many Hendrix fans, I often complain about the stewardship of his legacy, but I have to give some props to Experience Hendrix for this one. Job well done!

Now if they can just release the 7/30/70 Maui show in similar quality, I can die a happy man


Rob, the biggest problem with the Maui show will be that it was so windy that Mitch had to retrack his drums in the studio and his drums really didn't sound good at all - neither on the original or the doctored version. I have it on CD and DVD and as you know it was one of his greatest shows but unfortunately was not given the documentation it deserved.

As a matter of fact, it was the first tape I ever received in trade, and it wasn't even a trade, nor did I have a tape player, but I found a way to listen to it. And it came from a guy by the name of Rob Johnson....

Glad your'e diggin' the box. I've had literally 3 or 4 complete sets of that Winterland stand (6 discs) the last being the box that Mike Jeffrey's Estate put out, but that was sourced from mp3s and really didn't sound as good as it should have. Now it does....

Next up needs to be the Royal Albert Hall show, absolutely one of his best performances, which is on the Experience docket (CD & DVD) but no release date yet, and the Atlanta Pop Festival on DVD and on CD in its entirety.

You and I have shared our Hendrix passion over the years and there are very few, if any, fans as Rabid as true Hendrix fans.....not just the greatest guitarist, IMHO, but probably the greatest rock musician. No one before or since has ever had such command of his instrument and was more creative in terms of sound innovation, as well as composition. The guy totally had it all. There never was anyone like him and there never will be again. The most original musician of our lifetime.....

[Edited on 1/10/2012 by brofan]


they are releasing the royal albert and atlanta pops festival shows for sure?

 

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I got this for Christmas from my lovely wife and have been savoring and absorbing it for a couple of weeks now. A few quick thoughts....

--There was a thread a while back on this board criticizing this set for not being every note of all 6 shows Jimi played at Winterland in October 1968. While I can respect the completists who make that argument, I think 4 CDs is just about right. One disc with highlights from each night, and a fourth with other goodies that didn't fit on the first 3. There are probably some good performances that got left out, but it can't be much.

--The sound quality! My goodness, this sounds amazing. I don't know if I've ever heard live Hendrix where his guitar sounded so clear, so powerful, so perfect. I just can't rave enough about how good this box sounds. I had the single disc "Live At Winterland" that Ryko put out in the 80s, but even the performances that I was familiar with sound brand new to my ears.

--If you've been looking for a good Intro To Hendrix 101 for a friend, look no further. Jimi is absolutely on top of his game here, both on guitar and vocally, and you get a little bit of everything that made him such a legendary musician. Long jams like Tax Free, serious blues like Red House and Hear My Train A-Comin', two great versions of Like A Rolling Stone, and tight, fiery versions of classics like Purple Haze.

--Both versions of Are You Experienced? on here are a revelation to me. One of my all-time favorite songs, Hendrix didn't play it live often, and I've NEVER heard it sound like this. I almost cried the first time I heard the 10/11/68 version. Just incredible...

Like many Hendrix fans, I often complain about the stewardship of his legacy, but I have to give some props to Experience Hendrix for this one. Job well done!

Now if they can just release the 7/30/70 Maui show in similar quality, I can die a happy man


Rob, the biggest problem with the Maui show will be that it was so windy that Mitch had to retrack his drums in the studio and his drums really didn't sound good at all - neither on the original or the doctored version. I have it on CD and DVD and as you know it was one of his greatest shows but unfortunately was not given the documentation it deserved.

As a matter of fact, it was the first tape I ever received in trade, and it wasn't even a trade, nor did I have a tape player, but I found a way to listen to it. And it came from a guy by the name of Rob Johnson....

Glad your'e diggin' the box. I've had literally 3 or 4 complete sets of that Winterland stand (6 discs) the last being the box that Mike Jeffrey's Estate put out, but that was sourced from mp3s and really didn't sound as good as it should have. Now it does....

Next up needs to be the Royal Albert Hall show, absolutely one of his best performances, which is on the Experience docket (CD & DVD) but no release date yet, and the Atlanta Pop Festival on DVD and on CD in its entirety.

You and I have shared our Hendrix passion over the years and there are very few, if any, fans as Rabid as true Hendrix fans.....not just the greatest guitarist, IMHO, but probably the greatest rock musician. No one before or since has ever had such command of his instrument and was more creative in terms of sound innovation, as well as composition. The guy totally had it all. There never was anyone like him and there never will be again. The most original musician of our lifetime.....

[Edited on 1/10/2012 by brofan]


they are releasing the royal albert and atlanta pops festival shows for sure?


Last I heard the Royal Albert Hall was definite but no date. Don't know about Atlanta Pop but obviously it was filmed and has been extensively bootlegged, but most DVD versions I've seen are either incomplete (most) or the songs are out of sequence and badly cut up. The audio was previously released on the Stages box was it wasn't the whole show.


Hendrix Sister Collates 106-Minute Royal Albert Hall Concert Film

JIMI HENDRIX's stepsister JANIE HENDRIX is hoping to resolve an ongoing dispute with British newspaper The Times over a 1969 Royal Albert Hall show in London, so she can release the accompanying DVD.

Hendrix, the president and CEO of Experience Hendrix, has revealed she has painstakingly pieced together a 106-minute film, featuring footage from her late brother's two-night stand at the fabled venue and rare backstage moments.

But she refuses to do anything with it until her legal battle with The Times has wrapped up this spring (2010).

The newspaper issued the Royal Albert Hall concerts highlights as a free CD to readers in 2006, and were sued by Hendrix and the estate of her late brother.

The Times publishers lost the case and a cash settlement will be determined in weeks.
Until then, Janie Hendrix has no plans for the DVD.

She tells CelebrityAccess.com's Larry LeBlanc, "We put it (footage) together, and it's over 106 minutes long. It's wonderful."

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/hendrix-sister-collates-106-minute-royal-a lbert-hall-concert-film_1133988

In the meantime, it's being vined:

http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&am p;file=viewthread&tid=121072

My thinking is that once Janie sees how successful the Winterland box is she'll do whatever it takes to get RAH out. She wouldn't have put that much work into it if she wasn't going to release it. It is unanimously one of his finest - and some would say it IS his finest - shows.

The audio came out as an import on Charly in a 3 CD set including most of the soundcheck a few years ago. It wasn't around very long - I picked it up then for then for like 20 bucks and now it is a collectors item:

http://www.amazon.com/LAST-EXPERIENCE-Jimi-Hendrix/dp/B000069DZP/ref=sr_1_2 ?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1326187879&sr=1-2

Experience Hendrix usually puts out or two big releases a year. Last year it was Winterland and Hendrix In The West, definitely one of the best records he ever out (posthumously) and one that had been OOP for decades. I'm betting RAH will be this years's big one.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 04:43 AM
thanks for the update. i need to get the winterland boxset. like i said earlier in this thread i don't believe the hendrix family has yet to put out something that was released simply to make money. the fans want it, most of it is good stuff and the family seems to try its hardest to get what the fans are asking for out there
 

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Rob--I assume you are familiar with the purple box set--the 4 disc set that comes in a furry purple box,furry like the walls were in Electric Lady studios....do you have any thoughts about this box set including sound quality...I bought that some years back and it seems good to me although I was never certain about the sound quality...would appreciate your thoughts....also,my favorite cd right now is Jimi's Blues album...very intense playing,although I sense a vinyl recording would do greater justice to both these albums.....
 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 08:54 AM
1 more thought...I saw the entire Woodstock Hendrix performance this year...off the charts..Jimi's kills it here and the band is quite interesting to watch....
 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 09:01 AM
After listening to the soundboard boots of all the shows, and then the Box, the sound is
much improved. Some of the performances are still a little off kilter, some repeats, which is
why I think they dropped some songs and not entire shows.

I would recommend this to the hard core fans, but not the casual fan though.
They can go to the newly configured "Hendix in the West" instead.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 09:02 AM
and for those interested, this is a great Hendrix resource site:


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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 09:07 AM
my usual 2 cents--as I'm fond of saying, that isn't the ENTIRE Hendrix woodstock set, as far as I know the two Larry Lee vocals have never been released--"gypsy woman" and "mad man," I think was the other title. great to have Jimi in his former role as lead guitarist against somebody else's vocal, I'm not sure why they don't release those two along with the rest.
 
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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 11:25 AM
The RAH show, should be great when/if released.
This was a show that the JHE actually spent a couple days rehearsing for.
Besides the actual RAH footage, I believe Experience Hendrix also was considering releasing a companion documentary, a sort of day in the life of Hendrix, that was shot by the same film crews, featuring rehearsal footage and Hendrix, Mitchell and Redding hanging out around London in the days before the RAH show.

I agree the Winterland Box is phenomenal, I've got it on vinyl, and it sounds like the band is almost in the room with you. It being incomplete doesn't bother me in the least.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 12:29 PM
This boxset has been on my wishlist since it's been announced. After it's release and the first reviews i wasn't sure if i wanted to buy it when i found out it was incomplete and that there's a 6CD release from a few years ago which i might consider in stead. But now i've heard so many good reviews regarding the improved sound quality i will most definitely pick it up. BTW, the purple 4CD boxset from a few years ago is absolutely fantastic!

 

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This boxset has been on my wishlist since it's been announced. After it's release and the first reviews i wasn't sure if i wanted to buy it when i found out it was incomplete and that there's a 6CD release from a few years ago which i might consider in stead. But now i've heard so many good reviews regarding the improved sound quality i will most definitely pick it up. BTW, the purple 4CD boxset from a few years ago is absolutely fantastic!


yes thats the boxset i have, the 4 cd crushed purple velvet boxset

 

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This boxset has been on my wishlist since it's been announced. After it's release and the first reviews i wasn't sure if i wanted to buy it when i found out it was incomplete and that there's a 6CD release from a few years ago which i might consider in stead. But now i've heard so many good reviews regarding the improved sound quality i will most definitely pick it up. BTW, the purple 4CD boxset from a few years ago is absolutely fantastic!


I have a 6 CD set called Winterland Reels which is soundboard but producer/engineer Eddie Kramer seems to have an innate ability to get the best out of the Hendrix recordings. I think he loves the music as much as the people buying it, maybe even more. The only thing i didn't like about the Winterland box is that they don't say which set the songs are from (ie Early show or late show) it makes me wonder if they combined takes. I just don;t have time to scour the Winterland Reels searching for anomalies.

I agree that the Hendrix family is putting out wonderful products, unlike Alan Douglas who butchered the recordings and brought in session players to replace the original performers and disrespected Jimi Hendrix every time he issued crap like Voodoo Soup and Midnight Lightning. Here's to Experience Hendrix for furthering the legacy and respecting the master.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 07:19 PM
Listening to the purple box set disc 3:

Wow

A mix of studio and live cuts....

Stone free
Spanish castle magic
Hear my train a coming'
Room full of mirrors
I don't live today
Little wing
Red house
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I have the Purple Box set, and the Winterland show that was released by Ryko some years back, and its one of my favs...Rob J., I am pretty sure I know the answer, but do I need to update and get the Winterland Box? Thanks for an honest opinion. Peace John

 

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Regarding the aforementioned Maui July 30, 1970 show, I remember
going into the record store and coming across this little item....



Not a bad little 2-CD set, for a bootleg.

 

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Rob--I assume you are familiar with the purple box set--the 4 disc set that comes in a furry purple box,furry like the walls were in Electric Lady studios....do you have any thoughts about this box set including sound quality...I bought that some years back and it seems good to me although I was never certain about the sound quality...would appreciate your thoughts....also,my favorite cd right now is Jimi's Blues album...very intense playing,although I sense a vinyl recording would do greater justice to both these albums.....


Almost every track on that box is either an unreleased track or alternate take. One of the best box sets ever released. As is the one released last year by Experience Hendrix, West Coast Seattle Boy, which is also mostly unreleased material - God, was this guy prolific or what? :

http://www.amazon.com/West-Coast-Seattle-Boy-Collectors/dp/B003YDZV90/ref=s r_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1326258862&sr=1-1

 

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