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  posted on 1/7/2012 at 03:23 PM
Never thought I'd hear myself say this. I'm done with this altogether. Briefly entertained the notion of Ron Paul until it occurred to me that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, and dangerous.

I know the right thing to do is go for the lesser of two evils, but I guess I'm just sick of voting for evil.

It's a charade. Same party, different party hats.




 
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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 08:14 AM
On some levels, you are right. The choices these days are simply the lesser evil. But i'll accept voting for degrees of "evil" before I give up my right to cast a vote. My $0.02.



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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 08:48 AM
I've struggled back and forth with this for years. I was really hopeful that this last presidential election would truly be different, really bring about a change. It has not. That ended my hope that things will ever be different in this lifetime. In the end though, I agree with Mike. I'll keep voting, even if I don't feel very good about my choices.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 10:17 AM
In the last presidential election I wrote in my wife's name. I figured the best way to spend my vote was to throw my support to her. Not sure what I'll do this time, but I will vote.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 11:19 AM
I did not vote for the first time until I was 31 (I hate to admit that.) However, I feel it is my duty as a United States citizen to cast my vote, whether the candidates are worth a sh!t or not.

Please throw your support to the 3rd party, Libertarian. This man deserves a shot.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 11:28 AM
First time I voted which was when I was first eligible was the Ford -Carter election. I remember at that time everyone was saying the same thing, I'm voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 11:58 AM
I voted the first time I was eligible in 1972 and have voted in every presidential election (actually every congressional election, too) since. More often than not it was for the lesser of 2 evils. There are no perfect candidates.

The guy I've voted for has won half the time. Unfortunately, when my guy won my life never improved dramatically. Thanksfully, when the other guy won there was no significant negative impact to my life. It really didn't matter too much.

I think most people (myself included) are happiest when their candidate loses. Then they have the freedom to complain for the next four years and say "I didn't vote for him."

I'll probably vote for the candidate who will generate the most amusing news headlines during his term. Outrageous and entertaining news stories are the biggest direct benefit I receive from Presidents.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 12:21 PM
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Please throw your support to the 3rd party, Libertarian. This man deserves a shot.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com



Thanks for the heads up. I'll check out this candidate. Maybe my disillusionment will give me the freedom I needed to stop voting Democrat or Republican, which is what I have always done.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 12:21 PM
I vote in every election, local, state, Federal. Only voice in the process I have.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 12:24 PM
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I vote in every election, local, state, Federal. Only voice in the process I have.


I vote because I have a say in local elections.

Federal elections are controlled by the big money PACs, the average citizen cannot compete with that and hence really has no voice.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 12:34 PM
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I vote in every election, local, state, Federal. Only voice in the process I have.


I vote because I have a say in local elections.

Federal elections are controlled by the big money PACs, the average citizen cannot compete with that and hence really has no voice.




Regardless, I still vote, no matter what.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 01:23 PM
I vote to try to set an example for our children...who also vote....and our grandchildren. I know it's not making much difference now but if they get in the habit of voting, maybe one day they'll vote for someone who actually CAN make the difference we need in this country. I may just be fooling myself, but it gets me to the polls.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 01:31 PM
I just don't vote for corporate owned democrats and Republicans, so I'll vote Green or independent in federal elections. Mostly as a silent protest as they don't really get a fair chance in these elections.

But I feel my vote has a voice in local elections and it does. we got rid of a county council that sold out to
out of county developers and their cronies in some key positions. It does pay to get involved in local issues.





[Edited on 1/9/2012 by spacemonkey]

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 01:45 PM
DON"T GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE.....It's exactly what our two dominate political parties want you to do. The fact that only half the electorate votes is one of the biggest problems with our electoral process. It's far easier to manipulate 50% of the population than it is to manipulate 75 or 90%.
 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 02:49 PM
I still remember my dad commenting on Nixon-McGovern saying he didn't know if he was going vote as one was a crook the other an idiot.

Don't know what the hell to do. Obama was going to change the system; until he realized that Partying in Vegas with the big money guys was easier.

Re: Republicans, they can't even find a warm body to beat a very vulnerable candidate. Newt is Newt; egad. Santorum (whatever his name was) is to the right of the Nazi party. And "the lesser evil" known as Romney flip-flops 10 times more frequently than Kerry did,

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 03:16 PM
Back in 1992 i was fed up with both GOP and the Dems. I started voting Libertarian just to not vote for the other idiots. Last election i voted for McCain even though i hated Palin. I just didn't believe a word Obama said. After watching the Tea Party and what has happened over the last year, i was kinda ashamed of myself for helping to give those idiots a bigger voice. Right now i am not unhappy with the job Obama has done, but it will be tough to vote for him. Not as tough as the 2008 election but still tough. But I must vote for someone, I'd still prefer some kinda of 3rd party candidate, just don't see one out there. Too bad there is not a Common Sense Party!
 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 04:24 PM
consider going green

http://www.greenparty.org/

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 04:45 PM
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consider going green (INSERT - COBOH)*

http://www.greenparty.org/


*crazy 'ol burnt out hippy

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 05:06 PM
Not going to vote any more:

Too bad, it's the only real voice you have!

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 07:19 PM
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I vote in every election, local, state, Federal. Only voice in the process I have.


I vote because I have a say in local elections.

Federal elections are controlled by the big money PACs, the average citizen cannot compete with that and hence really has no voice.



The airwaves may be controlled by the PACs, but your vote is not if you can't be swayed by 30 sec attack ads.

I almost always vote, and feel guilty when I miss an occasional runoff race. I don't mind when others choose not to vote; that increases the value of mine.

 

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  posted on 1/9/2012 at 08:06 PM
Its interesting to see folks comment about the futile feeling of voting in national elections, but realizing that their vote for state and local elections might really mean something.

It reinforces the judgement of the Founders; that the Federal structure should be limited and tightly authorized, while the states had far more leeway to deal with the issues their citizens wanted addressed (or not). Too bad we've gone so far in the wrong direction.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 12:17 AM
If you don't vote, then you can't complain either.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 08:59 AM
I understand the original poster's frustrations. I actually sat out the last gubernatorial election in my state of Alabama. I just could not convince myself to vote for either to the two "finalists".

Whatever happened to government for the people -BY the people?

Our politicians are corporate owned these days. Why do they spend millions of dollars to get a job that pays less than $200,000? Follow that thread and you'll understand my own political cynicism.

Following the Gulf oil spill (or eruption of oil from the ocean floor) - I wrote letters to every state representative begging that they use their influences to help usher in cleaner energy forms - especially hydrogen. All I got back was form letters stating that they felt that the status quo was the way to go. I'm sure this was in no small part due to the fact that BP has lined their pockets.

Don't vote - don't complain? Okay. I get that. I generally try to find an independent candidate that I at least can identify with. Usually a dark horse with no snowballs chance in Hell of winning, but I'll give that candidate my vote. So I guess it's okay if I do complain, right?

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 10:25 AM
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If you don't vote, then you can't complain either.


Totally disagree, agree with George Carlin on this one. If you don't vote and aren't responsible for putting these greedy dopes in office you have the right to complain the loudest. Having said that I do vote.

[Edited on 1/10/2012 by Peachypetewi]

 

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  posted on 1/10/2012 at 10:32 AM
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Whatever happened to government for the people -BY the people?


Which people, exactly?

 

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