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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 09:19 AM


[Edited on 1/6/2012 by jerryphilbob]

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 09:26 AM
I think Gregg is capable of making his own career decisions. He doesn't need us to make them for him.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 09:28 AM
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It seems odd to me, that with Greggs health and all, that he continues to tour with GAF. Should he be saving his energy for ABB related projects and maybe a real ABB tour? Not just the usual Beacon and Wanee dates, but a real freaking ABB tour?

I know he has had to cancel some dates and it is frustrating to see no ABB dates but to see him out touring with GAF. It just seems to me that maybe he should be saving himself for ABB related projects and just shelve the GAF stuff until his health is much better. I am sure this is just selfish on my part, but it sucks to not get any real touring dates out of the ABB and watch Gregg out there touring with his other band.
Just curious what others thought?


First, Low Country Blues was a stellar effort and it would be an absolute shame for Gregg not to tour the music.

Last, I think Gregg should play when and where Gregg wants to play and I assume he does. Cancelled dates are part of the game for the aging touring musician. It's a tough life for a fully healthy guy in his 60's no doubt but the joy Gregg obviously gets playing is likely irreplacable off the road. My guess is that Jaimoe will quit the ABB before Gregg unless it's purely health related. But WTF do I know? LOL

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 10:02 AM
Why would anyone quit a job that only takes up one month per year and makes enough to support their other efforts? barring any health issues, it would be silly for any of them to quit.

As for Gregg, I think many have had those thoughts for years. But everyone except Butch has other projects so why not Gregg?

The issue that I have with Gregg/management is that they should have made up the postponed/cancelled shows before booking others.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 10:14 AM
As the years go on, I would expect us to see the inverse--Gregg continues to tour with GAF but the Allman Brothers Band hangs it up.

The ABB is a much more demanding gig in a lot of ways for Gregg. GAF is custom-built to be squarely in Gregg's comfort zone, where in the ABB he needs to "keep up" with the likes of Warren and Derek, not to mention the rhythm section.

Your original post makes it sound like the Allman Brothers is Gregg's main band, and GAF is a side project. Especially with the success of Low Country Blues, I think sometime over the past year or two those positions have been reversed. The ABB are the side project now.

I expect Gregg Allman to be playing music as long as he's able to, but GAF is a much more comfortable gig, and I expect that is the band he will ride into the sunset with.

 
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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 10:20 AM
I think Gregg and the band does what works best for them, schedulewise, healthwise etc. Hope they continue to make it work til their 50th.
 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 10:36 AM
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I think Gregg is capable of making his own career decisions. He doesn't need us to make them for him.


Yup...LCB was a great album and he has a great band that he enjoys playing with...so,why not!

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 10:54 AM
Whether it's GAF or ABB, I just want to hear me some live Gregg, my favorite musician.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 11:30 AM
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Your original post makes it sound like the Allman Brothers is Gregg's main band, and GAF is a side project. Especially with the success of Low Country Blues, I think sometime over the past year or two those positions have been reversed. The ABB are the side project now.

I expect Gregg Allman to be playing music as long as he's able to, but GAF is a much more comfortable gig, and I expect that is the band he will ride into the sunset with.



I have had the same thoughts in recent years. As long as Gregg has that voice he could on for years given the type of sings and plays. B.B King is 86 !!

 

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Your original post makes it sound like the Allman Brothers is Gregg's main band, and GAF is a side project. Especially with the success of Low Country Blues, I think sometime over the past year or two those positions have been reversed. The ABB are the side project now.

I expect Gregg Allman to be playing music as long as he's able to, but GAF is a much more comfortable gig, and I expect that is the band he will ride into the sunset with.



I have had the same thoughts in recent years. As long as Gregg has that voice he could on for years given the type of music he sings and plays. B.B King is 86 !!

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 12:27 PM
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Whether it's GAF or ABB, I just want to hear me some live Gregg, my favorite musician.


Ditto.

GAF gives Gregg another avenue for his material interpreted a bit differently than ABB, as well as covers not done by the ABB.

For the most part, Gregg has been a trooper touring. The last year or so has understandably been an exception due to health issues. I suspect the ABB are a cohesive bunch of guys making decisions regarding touring as a group versus side / solo projects.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 12:35 PM
Certainly Gregg's solo shows are much less intense than the ABB shows not to mention much shorter. As long as he can handle life on the road there is no reason he should not continue to tour with his stellar solo band.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 01:21 PM
I too expect that there will be more GAF shows and less ABB, but I really enjoy the GAF shows and I really missed my annual trip to Penn's Peak to see them this year. He's down south this winter (where, really, he should be in winter given his health). Gregg is in charge of his band and it shows. They are tight - he has amazing musicians with him, he is relaxed and talks to the crowd more, and rarely flubs any words. I haven't seen a GAF show with any noticeable erros from Gregg. Based on interviews and his solo output, I really don't think he's into the long jams as much as the others. His solo music is tight, succinct, expertly played and full of R&B groove. That's where his personal musical passion seems to be and I'd bet that as he gets older he'll want to play it more often. And good for him. he is one of my favorite musicians and I have enjoyed everything he has done (some more than others - Two The Hard Way anyone?). I'll gladly go see his solo band every year.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 01:37 PM
I don't know the financial merits of each, but it's pretty clear that Derek and Warren are channeling their creativity to side projects.

However, the ABB catalog of amazing songs that lend so well to performance, the legacy and the fan base will always mean that it is the mother ship and the side projects just that.

Each of them make amazing music solo, but for my money none comes close to the ABB for both sheer quality and popularity. That doesn't mean Warren or Derek might not leave, but I don't see Gregg letting go of the band.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 02:43 PM
Gregg should do whatever Gregg wants to do.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 04:11 PM
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Gregg should do whatever Gregg wants to do.


Yup.

In the last couple years Gregg has brought his band to the Syracuse area twice, a show at Turning Stone casino that I took my mother to, and the free Taste of Syracuse show in June.

Closest the ABB has come was Albany, a two and a half hour drive.

I'll take all the GAF shows he wants to bring here, hopefully the big band will tour through here again.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 04:13 PM
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I don't know the financial merits of each, but it's pretty clear that Derek and Warren are channeling their creativity to side projects.

However, the ABB catalog of amazing songs that lend so well to performance, the legacy and the fan base will always mean that it is the mother ship and the side projects just that.

Each of them make amazing music solo, but for my money none comes close to the ABB for both sheer quality and popularity. That doesn't mean Warren or Derek might not leave, but I don't see Gregg letting go of the band.


I think it is time for us to accept that for Derek and Warren the ABB is the side project. If forced to choose, at this point they would clearly choose their own bands. Luckily they are not being forced to choose.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 04:16 PM
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They are tight - he has amazing musicians with him, he is relaxed and talks to the crowd more, and rarely flubs any words.



Hold on there pilgrim, let's not get carried away.

The last two GAF shows had plenty of GAM's (Gregg Allman Moments) where he blew lyrics.

Most of the Syracuse show is up on youtube, go listen to I'm No Angel, the second song of the show.

If that doesn't do it, listen to the somewhat painful These Days.

 

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Hold on there pilgrim, let's not get carried away.

The last two GAF shows had plenty of GAM's (Gregg Allman Moments) where he blew lyrics.

Most of the Syracuse show is up on youtube, go listen to I'm No Angel, the second song of the show.

If that doesn't do it, listen to the somewhat painful These Days.


I have recordings of many solo shows that are mistake free. And shows I have seen every year in recent memory have been free of Gregg Allman Moments as you put it. I think his recent issues have been related to his medicines and health issues in general, beyond that I stand by what I said. he is relaxed and rarely makes mistakes. I do think he went back out on the road too soon and is having a hard time focusing this year, but I am referring to his solo performances over all.

 

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  posted on 1/2/2012 at 07:12 PM
If Gregg has fun playing with "his" band, why should he give it up? Play on--have fun!

 

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  posted on 1/3/2012 at 01:34 PM
I would think that, at this point in life, Gregg will do as he pleases, do what he wants to do, what is fun for him. We know he loves to play, loves the road to some extent. He can pick and choose at this point.
 
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  posted on 1/3/2012 at 01:37 PM
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As the years go on, I would expect us to see the inverse--Gregg continues to tour with GAF but the Allman Brothers Band hangs it up.

The ABB is a much more demanding gig in a lot of ways for Gregg. GAF is custom-built to be squarely in Gregg's comfort zone, where in the ABB he needs to "keep up" with the likes of Warren and Derek, not to mention the rhythm section.

Your original post makes it sound like the Allman Brothers is Gregg's main band, and GAF is a side project. Especially with the success of Low Country Blues, I think sometime over the past year or two those positions have been reversed. The ABB are the side project now.

I expect Gregg Allman to be playing music as long as he's able to, but GAF is a much more comfortable gig, and I expect that is the band he will ride into the sunset with.


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  posted on 1/3/2012 at 01:52 PM
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It seems odd to me, that with Greggs health and all, that he continues to tour with GAF. Should he be saving his energy for ABB related projects and maybe a real ABB tour?


NO . This is not 1971. 40 years have gone by,..... 40. Not too much is the same; if Gregg were to be "saving his energy", Imho...it should be for the GAF. It is that band that at the very least, has new material. In the GAF, Gregg is not dependent on the other band member's tour schedules and solo projects. The Brothers are becoming exactly what I feared they would become....an entity that draws few new fans while the old ones, just fade away.....

 

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  posted on 1/3/2012 at 04:02 PM
I may be the only one here who thinks this way but to me, the ABB will always be the mother ship and the outside projects more of experiments.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Derek, Warren or Gregg ever achieving the same solo success as they could within the band.

They might make more money, have more creative freedom, but between the three of them they don't have one song outside the Brothers as good as Dreams, Liz Reed or 30 others I could think of. The ABB are a band of historic significance of which they are a huge part of the legacy. I would be surprised to see them not continue in a meaningful way.

 

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  posted on 1/3/2012 at 05:38 PM
Should Gregg shelv GAF??? Absolutely not!! He has himself a very talented group of musicians and He enjoys playing with his band maybe even more than the ABB and the$$ is not half bad,I would think he would want to write some new tunes with them. But with Gregg he needs someone to give him a kick in the A$$ to write.
 
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