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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 11:41 AM
How fantastic! And even better the scumbag ended up shooting himself in the foot.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/12/07/armed-mugger-is-left-ba ttered-and-bruised-after-trying-to-rob-18st-ultimate-cage-fighter-115875-23 615327/

BATTERED and bruised, this is the face of an armed mugger after his latest victim turned out to be a cage-fighting champion.

Serial thug Anthony Miranda, 24, needed hospital treatment when the tables were turned as he picked on the wrong guy.

He ended up with two black eyes and shot himself in the foot, literally, after trying to rob the unnamed 18st martial arts expert at gunpoint.


And last night he was facing jail after being arrested as he writhed in agony following the incident in south west Chicago late on Friday.

Miranda had allegedly walked up to a parked car and asked the driver for a light before pulling out a pistol and demanding cash.

A police spokesman said: “At some point while Miranda’s attention was diverted the victim was able to grab the gun and wrestle his attacker.”

During the fight the gun went off, blasting him in the ankle, and the professional cage fighter pinned him down until cops arrived.















 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 01:05 PM
Wow, with all their laws, I didn't think it was legal in Chicago to defend your own life.

But watch what follows; this guy will lawyer up and plead excessive injury, citing that the professional fighter used skills that should be reserved for the ring only.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 02:33 PM
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Wow, with all their laws, I didn't think it was legal in Chicago to defend your own life.

But watch what follows; this guy will lawyer up and plead excessive injury, citing that the professional fighter used skills that should be reserved for the ring only.


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Wow, with all their laws, I didn't think it was legal in Chicago to defend your own life.

But watch what follows; this guy will lawyer up and plead excessive injury, citing that the professional fighter used skills that should be reserved for the ring only.
I doubt it, the guy was threatened with a deadly weapon. he was just defending himself.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 05:47 PM
Shame the caged fighter wasn't armed. KInd of like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie- guys wields a sword on him, he takes out gun and shoots him, situation over.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 05:56 PM
Derek, my sentiments exactly. The scumbag "looks too damn good" ...paraphrased from the movie Dirty Harry

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 06:14 PM
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Shame the caged fighter wasn't armed. Kind of like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie- guys wields a sword on him, he takes out gun and shoots him, situation over.
Much as that would be real justice, in Chicago - the land of can't carry - the cage fighter would have been arrested immediately and been in serious trouble had he defended himself with a weapon. It's hard for me to understand how such a great city puts up with such ridiculous limits on their rights.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 06:18 PM
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Shame the caged fighter wasn't armed. KInd of like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie- guys wields a sword on him, he takes out gun and shoots him, situation over.



Looks to me like he didn't need to be armed......

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 06:23 PM
No one is allowed to use a gun in Chicago, rights are so restricted. The insane amount of murders on the South Side the last few summers have all been committed with clubs and slingshots.

 

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Shame the caged fighter wasn't armed. KInd of like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie- guys wields a sword on him, he takes out gun and shoots him, situation over.



Looks to me like he didn't need to be armed......


Nor was a gun of any use to the mugger.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 07:29 PM
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No one is allowed to use a gun in Chicago, rights are so restricted. The insane amount of murders on the South Side the last few summers have all been committed with clubs and slingshots.


You still don't get it. Here, let me re-write the sentence for you;

"No law abiding citizen is allowed to use a gun in Chicago, rights are so restricted."

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 08:24 PM
As usual, Derek's "facts" aren't exactly facts....

Here is an article from when the new law went into effect in July of 2010:


Chicago's new gun law goes into effect today
July 12, 2010 2:36 PM

Chicago's newly minted handgun regulation law goes into effect today, less than a month after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the city's ban on handguns.

The new ordinance bans gun shops in Chicago and prohibits gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or in their garages, with a handgun.

"Our big thing is knowing who has weapons," Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis. "Believe it or not, we are trying to make it as easy as possible for people to register their weapon."

The police department has posted forms and other information on permits and registration on its Web site, the superintendent said.

Lawsuits have already been filed by a man who wants to open a gun shop in Lincoln Park, by four residents and a gun sellers group. They claim the ordinance is unconstitutional.

The Supreme Court ruled in June that Americans have the right to have handguns for self-defense. The ruling effectively made the city's 28-year-old gun ban unenforceable.

Starting today, anyone who wants to get a handgun must obtain a Chicago firearm permit. People who have committed violent crimes, or have two or more convictions for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, will not be allowed permits.

To apply for a gun permit, applicants must be 21 years old or older (or 18, with parents' permission), have a valid FOID card and an affidavit signed by a state-certified firearms instructor, among other requirements. The permit fee is $100, the permit itself expires in three years and the application must be submitted in person at police headquarters, 3510 S. Michigan Ave., though applicants were advised not to bring their weapons with them.

Key provisions of the ordinance include:

Firearm sales will be banned in the city.
Gun training totaling four hours in a classroom and an hour on a firing range will be required before getting a permit. But firing ranges are banned, so training must be completed outside Chicago.
To transport a gun, it will have to be "broken down," not immediately accessible, unloaded, and in a firearm case.
Firearms may be possessed only inside the dwelling. It will be illegal to have a gun in the garage, on porches or in the yard. Guns also will not be allowed in hotels, dorms and group-living facilities.
Permit-bearing owners also must individually register each gun they own within five days of purchase and are allowed to register only one handgun per 30-day period, Weis said. The registration fee is $15.

-- Staff report, Associated Press


http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/07/chicagos-new-gun-law-goes-in to-effect-today.html

[Edited on 12/8/2011 by Sang]

 

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  posted on 12/7/2011 at 08:54 PM
"The new ordinance bans gun shops in Chicago and prohibits gun owners from stepping outside their homes, even onto their porches or in their garages, with a handgun."

"Gun training totaling four hours in a classroom and an hour on a firing range will be required before getting a permit. But firing ranges are banned, so training must be completed outside Chicago."

Unbelievable. Basically it is a move to disarm law abiding citizens in public and give the armed criminals an advantage. And even firing ranges are banned.

Wow

This is what you get when you live in a liberal regime, with the corruptness that is Chicago democrat Party politics and now Blago making it four Illinois governors going to jail in the last four decades. And who else came out of this system??? President Obama.

[Edited on 12/8/2011 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 11:18 AM
reason 4791 why not to ever go to ILL. or live in said state ...

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 12:24 PM
Fine with us. But note that the handgun restriction is for Chicago and about 6 or 7 other cities in the state - not the whole state.

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 12:51 PM
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Shame the caged fighter wasn't armed. KInd of like that scene in the Indiana Jones movie- guys wields a sword on him, he takes out gun and shoots him, situation over.



Looks to me like he didn't need to be armed......


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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 01:16 PM
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I fail to comprehend this (NYS gun laws):

A loaded handgun may be carried in a vehicle by a properly licensed individual. (Loaded means a firearm with ammunition loaded in magazine or chamber or any firearm which is possessed by one who at the same time possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such a firearm.) Possession of any loaded rifle or shotgun in a vehicle is illegal.

Yet:

There is no state license requirement for the possession of a rifle or shotgun, so long as the rifle has barrel(s) at least 16 inches in length and the shotgun has barrel(s) at least 18 inches in length.

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A license is needed to possess a handgun in one’s home or place of business.

Doesn't make sense to me. Need a permit for a handgun, yet you can carry one loaded in a car. No permit need for a rife or shotgun, yet you *can't* drive around with one while it is loaded. Anybody have a rational explanation for this?


The only thing I can come up with would be as a deterrent for poachers. Shooting from a vehicle or a roadway is illegal in most states. A rifle or a shotgun is more of a hunting weapon than a self defense weapon, and if you were driving around with a loaded rifle, maybe it is assumed you were gonna shoot game from the road. Whereas a loaded pistol is a self defense weapon and would only be deployed against a physcial threat.

Now, I am thinking, is a MAC-9 or Uzi a rifle? Of course automatic weapons come under a whole different set of licensing restrictions. I know the reason for the restrictions on barrel length, and it has to do with the intended purpose in sawing one off. That's a pretty good question Charlie...

 

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Wow, with all their laws, I didn't think it was legal in Chicago to defend your own life.

But watch what follows; this guy will lawyer up and plead excessive injury, citing that the professional fighter used skills that should be reserved for the ring only.


You oughta see what Chicago cops can - and often - do. I was the recipient of their "largesse" one time and was out before my face hit the sidewalk after getting hit in the back of the head by a nightstick.

Chicago is a town you DO NOT wanna mess around in.

This must've happened in Pilsen, around 26th and Halsted.

And Rich, since Chicago used to have over a thousand murders a year and was at one time the Murder Capital of America, the laws must be working.

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 01:32 PM
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reason 4791 why not to ever go to ILL. or live in said state ...


Mike, that's too bad, because you are going to let spite prevent you from visiting one of the greatest cities in the world.

Suit yourself.....

 

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I fail to comprehend this (NYS gun laws):

A loaded handgun may be carried in a vehicle by a properly licensed individual. (Loaded means a firearm with ammunition loaded in magazine or chamber or any firearm which is possessed by one who at the same time possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such a firearm.) Possession of any loaded rifle or shotgun in a vehicle is illegal.

Yet:

There is no state license requirement for the possession of a rifle or shotgun, so long as the rifle has barrel(s) at least 16 inches in length and the shotgun has barrel(s) at least 18 inches in length.

And:

A license is needed to possess a handgun in one’s home or place of business.

Doesn't make sense to me. Need a permit for a handgun, yet you can carry one loaded in a car. No permit need for a rife or shotgun, yet you *can't* drive around with one while it is loaded. Anybody have a rational explanation for this?


The only thing I can come up with would be as a deterrent for poachers. Shooting from a vehicle or a roadway is illegal in most states. A rifle or a shotgun is more of a hunting weapon than a self defense weapon, and if you were driving around with a loaded rifle, maybe it is assumed you were gonna shoot game from the road. Whereas a loaded pistol is a self defense weapon and would only be deployed against a physcial threat.

Now, I am thinking, is a MAC-9 or Uzi a rifle? Of course automatic weapons come under a whole different set of licensing restrictions. I know the reason for the restrictions on barrel length, and it has to do with the intended purpose in sawing one off. That's a pretty good question Charlie...


Yeah, it's a law based on the assumption that you're going to use a pistol exclusively for self-defense as opposed to picking off that turkey on the side of the road while driving, and that you're exclusively going to use a rifle or a shotgun to hunt game with. I think it's just plain stupid. People hunt with pistols, and people kill one another with rifles and shotguns.


I'm pro-gun ownership, and I don't have a problem with the laws I'm questioning, but I still gotta wonder where their heads are at when they come up with this stuff. I've always unloaded my shotgun before traveling with it.


Charlie, talk to some Chicago Police Officers who put their lives on the line every day. I think they could provide you with a very articulate and reasoned argument on why they think the law is necessary.

Not a whole lot of deer hunting that goes on within the city limits.

And Derek, whatever happened to DECENTRALIZED i.e. LOCAL, government? Aren't you and your ilk always screaming about monolithic centralized government in Washington infringing on the rights of ordinary American citizens? Well, here's a perfect example of a municipality exercising local governmental control, which is exactly what all the Tea-Baggers are always screaming about. Why the hell should YOU, a guy down there in Deerasslick SW Ohio or anyone else outside the city limits of Chicago have any say in it? Would you like the residents of the South Side of Chicago weighing in on what the laws should be in your town of Bumblef*ck Egypt? If you feel so strongly about it why don't you get off your fat ass and take your big mouth to a Chicago City Council meeting and extoll your wisdom for all the Chicago Alderman to hear? Because you don't have the guts. And because they would EAT YOU ALIVE.

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 02:26 PM
In Chicago it is only legal to have a loaded pistol in your house - can't be outside or even on a porch...and no concealed carry.

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 02:32 PM
http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm


Here is a little more detail.....

 

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  posted on 12/8/2011 at 06:08 PM
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Charlie, talk to some Chicago Police Officers who put their lives on the line every day. I think they could provide you with a very articulate and reasoned argument on why they think the law is necessary.




We're talking about law abiding citizens being able to protect themselves. Now - bottom line - advantage criminals.

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Not a whole lot of deer hunting that goes on within the city limits.




Depends where you are at. Here we are in an urban deer zone and they are so thick that you can legally take 12 per person (11 does, one buck)

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And Derek, whatever happened to DECENTRALIZED i.e. LOCAL, government? Aren't you and your ilk always screaming about monolithic centralized government in Washington infringing on the rights of ordinary American citizens? Well, here's a perfect example of a municipality exercising local governmental control, which is exactly what all the Tea-Baggers are always screaming about. Why the hell should YOU, a guy down there in Deerasslick SW Ohio or anyone else outside the city limits of Chicago have any say in it? Would you like the residents of the South Side of Chicago weighing in on what the laws should be in your town of Bumblef*ck Egypt?


The problem is that these anti-gun folks ARE trying to get rid of the laws that folks pass in other cities and states. Here, thankfully, it is a conceal and carry state.

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I can't agree with you there as I like Chicago. Yep, the politics is wack, but I've had a god time in the city every time. Plus, Ilinois is a big and long state and plenty of farmers and hunters and fishermen and women found farther south towards the mighty Ohio River.

 

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