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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 06:02 PM
Has anybody checked out SCI lately. Not liking what String Cheese Incident's sound has evolved into. I became a big fan of the Cheese back in 2003. I have many of the live 2002 cds and became hooked. Too much electronica/trance is incorporated into their sound now. I saw the SCI last night at the Tower Theatre in Philly. Very uneven show. At times I thought I was listening to techno music in a club. I even left early. Very disappointing. Looks like the Cheese is not my cup of tea anymore.
 
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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 06:11 PM
I dont like seeing this, I am checking them out Sunday in Boston. First time tho, and I have to admit I kind of like the "Jamtronica" music like Lotus and STS9 so maybe i'll dig it?

 

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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 06:32 PM
I am really depressed to hear about that change. they need an intervention.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 06:37 PM
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I dont like seeing this, I am checking them out Sunday in Boston. First time tho, and I have to admit I kind of like the "Jamtronica" music like Lotus and STS9 so maybe i'll dig it?


If you like that kind of music, I am sure you will dig it. Many fans were into it. Just not my cup of tea or the style of music that made me love String Cheese.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 06:54 PM
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I am really depressed to hear about that change. they need an intervention.


They started off the show with great versions of Search & Born on The Wrong Planet . But after songs like Colliding and Valley of the Jig, the show went south for me. Even some jams in the songs are becoming too trancey for me. I knew that the band's sound was changing back in 2005. I heard that they broke up because some band members did not like this new sound. I went to the show hoping that they got this trancey sound out of their system and went back to their roots.

 

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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 08:10 PM
FYI, Michael Travis and Jason Hann of SCI have their own band called EOTO that is pure techno. They use live drums, but also loops and samples, and the result is very much like club music. I believe Michael Kang is also really into the techno-dance-trance scene, so that 3 people out of a 6-man band. I don't think that techno influence is ever going away from SCI when half the band is into it.

I was never really a big SCI fan, either before or after their change in style, so I don't really have a dog in this fight. Just thought it was worth bringing up EOTO for anybody who was curious about the change in SCI's style and didn't know about that band.

[Edited on 12/3/2011 by RobJohnson]

 
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  posted on 12/2/2011 at 08:35 PM
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FYI, Michael Travis and Jason Hann of SCI have their own band called EOTO that is pure techno. They use live drums, but also loops and samples, and the result is very much like club music. I believe Michael Kang is also really into the techno-dance-trance scene, so that 3 people out of a 6-man band. I don't think that techno influence is ever going away from SCI when half the band is into it.

I was never really a big SCI fan, either before or after their change in style, so I don't really have a dog in this fight. Just thought it was worth bringing up EOTO for anybody who was curious about the change in SCI's style and didn't know about that band.

[Edited on 12/3/2011 by RobJohnson]


Thanks for the info Rob. Now I know who brought that sound into the band. I have many of the SCI live On the Road series cds from 2002 and there is not a hint of that trancey sound.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2011 at 10:53 AM
If you like the Billy Nershi influence in the band (bluegrass) you should check out the Emmit-Nershi Band. Seen them a couple of times very good high energy jam-grass. They play a fair number of Cheese songs as well.
 

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  posted on 12/3/2011 at 01:35 PM
String Cheese Accident.
 

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  posted on 12/3/2011 at 09:11 PM
Hmmm---very surprising-----but thanks Rob for clearing that up!
 
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  posted on 12/4/2011 at 08:13 AM
Have tried to get into them many times and.....cannot
 

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  posted on 12/4/2011 at 08:32 AM
I am just hoping either DT or Warren stick around an extra night to do a cameo with them in Boston tonight.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2011 at 10:28 AM
Saw SCI in Atlanta at the Fox a few years ago. They did a awesome version of Ain't wasting time no more.
 

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  posted on 12/4/2011 at 10:45 AM
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Saw SCI in Atlanta at the Fox a few years ago. They did a awesome version of Ain't wasting time no more.


I have the live CD of that show. One of my favorite shows from 2002. That was before they they incorporated Trance into their sound.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2011 at 08:06 AM
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Has anybody checked out SCI lately. Not liking what String Cheese Incident's sound has evolved into. I became a big fan of the Cheese back in 2003. I have many of the live 2002 cds and became hooked. Too much electronica/trance is incorporated into their sound now. I saw the SCI last night at the Tower Theatre in Philly. Very uneven show. At times I thought I was listening to techno music in a club. I even left early. Very disappointing. Looks like the Cheese is not my cup of tea anymore.



Gonna have to completely disagree with this post. After seeing them in Boston last night it couldn't have been anymore opposite then what you posted here. There might have been one song that was borderline trance music but i'd say it was a mix between trance and funk. The overall show was great jams.
Loved everything about it the lights the tunes... it was exactly what i was originally expecting.

 

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Has anybody checked out SCI lately. Not liking what String Cheese Incident's sound has evolved into. I became a big fan of the Cheese back in 2003. I have many of the live 2002 cds and became hooked. Too much electronica/trance is incorporated into their sound now. I saw the SCI last night at the Tower Theatre in Philly. Very uneven show. At times I thought I was listening to techno music in a club. I even left early. Very disappointing. Looks like the Cheese is not my cup of tea anymore.



Gonna have to completely disagree with this post. After seeing them in Boston last night it couldn't have been anymore opposite then what you posted here. There might have been one song that was borderline trance music but i'd say it was a mix between trance and funk. The overall show was great jams.
Loved everything about it the lights the tunes... it was exactly what i was originally expecting.


Everyone has an opinion. After the first two songs, I was totally bored. A little trance is too much for me. I never made it after the drums. I usually don't leave shows early but I had enough. I even met a big ABB, Mule & Dead fan who was at his first Cheese show. By the midpoint of the show he was sleeping and never came back for the second set. I guess different strokes for different folks.

 

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Everyone has an opinion. After the first two songs, I was totally bored. A little trance is too much for me. I never made it after the drums. I usually don't leave shows early but I had enough. I even met a big ABB, Mule & Dead fan who was at his first Cheese show. By the midpoint of the show he was sleeping and never came back for the second set. I guess different strokes for different folks.


Nah i dont think you understood what I meant, they didnt do what your claiming at the Boston show. It could hardly be classified as techno/trance/electronic music, all but maybe one song could be considered that , and like I mentioned that one "trancy" song was more like a funk tune... The majority of the show was classic STI, I wonder if they switched it up based on poor reviews of the show you went to... They had Boston flying... I never seen the Orpheum theater so pumped up before, it was a giant party for sure.
But needless to say I went into the show expecting what you said in this post but the show was not like that at all. Very Jammy, just like you hear on the 2002 recordings.

 

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Everyone has an opinion. After the first two songs, I was totally bored. A little trance is too much for me. I never made it after the drums. I usually don't leave shows early but I had enough. I even met a big ABB, Mule & Dead fan who was at his first Cheese show. By the midpoint of the show he was sleeping and never came back for the second set. I guess different strokes for different folks.


Nah i dont think you understood what I meant, they didnt do what your claiming at the Boston show. It could hardly be classified as techno/trance/electronic music, all but maybe one song could be considered that , and like I mentioned that one "trancy" song was more like a funk tune... The majority of the show was classic STI, I wonder if they switched it up based on poor reviews of the show you went to... They had Boston flying... I never seen the Orpheum theater so pumped up before, it was a giant party for sure.
But needless to say I went into the show expecting what you said in this post but the show was not like that at all. Very Jammy, just like you hear on the 2002 recordings.


I will have to check out the shows from the tour on Archive.org. Maybe my show was just a bad one. Loved the 2002 sound of the band.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2011 at 12:18 PM
Here be the 12/1 show that the OP is speaking of...checking it out now micelf.

http://www.archive.org/details/sci2011-12-01.m210.Hill.flac16

 

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  posted on 12/5/2011 at 12:29 PM
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Here be the 12/1 show that the OP is speaking of...checking it out now micelf.

http://www.archive.org/details/sci2011-12-01.m210.Hill.flac16


I was only able to skim through each song of the show, but the Boston show was sort of similar to this... I wouldn't consider this really trance tho either.
Check out STS9, that to me is Trance/"Jamtronica"

 

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Here be the 12/1 show that the OP is speaking of...checking it out now micelf.

http://www.archive.org/details/sci2011-12-01.m210.Hill.flac16


I was only able to skim through each song of the show, but the Boston show was sort of similar to this... I wouldn't consider this really trance tho either.
Check out STS9, that to me is Trance/"Jamtronica"


Oh, I know, I LOVE STS9.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2011 at 01:07 PM
saw sci at the fox in atlanta right after thanksgiving, I posted in the guest book that they opened the second set with southbound, which I enjoyed--I am not a fan of the band but as some of you know I work at the fox as an usher & we can leave a few minutes after intermission, which I did, so that was a good song to leave on. I suppose the discussion is about the last song of the first set which seemed to go on forever & also seemed pretty directionless. The sold out crowd apparently enjoyed it, so they must be doing something right. The lighting was very low & certainly not focused on the musicians during this track--I'm sure they were trying to create a mood of some sort & I can appreciate that but I tend to like to see what the musicians are doing--to my mind that is what stage lighting is for, but there's plenty of concerts I have attended where I couldn't even identify the players if I saw them later on & this was one of them.
 
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  posted on 12/5/2011 at 01:51 PM
For the bluegrass side of things it looks like this is the show to check out

String Cheese Incident
Ryman Auditorium
Nashville, TN
2011-11-28

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-=Set 1=-
*Acoustic*

-Disc 1-

01 "Introductions"
02 Old Train*
03 Big Mon*
04 Catfish John*
05 I've Just Seen A Face*
06 Steam Powered Aereo Plane*
07 Yo Sť*
08 Colorado Bluebird Sky*
09 Stingray*

-Set 2-

-Disc 2-
01 Rollover
02 So Far From Home
03 Lost >
04 Ring Of Fire

-Disc 3-

01 Long Gone^
02 Same Ol' River^
03 "Applause & Banter"
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04 Little Hands^ >
05 Rivertrance^

* - with Sam Bush on mandolin, Stuart Duncan on fiddle, Andy Hall on dobro and Kyle on grand piano
^ - with Sam Bush on mandolin, Stuart Duncan on fiddle, Andy Hall on dobro

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