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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 02:56 PM
Not trying to stir things up around here. Just curious why Kirk was let go. An honest question, if a bit naive.
 
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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 04:42 PM
Not exactly sure. I don't believe it was ever made public by either side. I could be wrong, but possibly it has blown over as Kirk I believe has been seen backstage - as a quest and not in any official capacity. I'm sure somebody knows, but they aren't saying. The ABB for all intents and purposes for the foreseeable future remains a limited (if that) touring entity. So the position of Tour Mystic on the payroll would hardly be needed. Hope this helps. I always liked Kirk and wish him the best.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 04:55 PM
My understanding is Mr West is focusing on the Big House museum now that it is up and running.

I would not read any more than that into it.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 05:03 PM
Space, I thought the Big House Museum is the reason he was terminated from the band and has no connection to the musem now either.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 05:18 PM
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Space, I thought the Big House Museum is the reason he was terminated from the band and has no connection to the musem now either.


that is news to me

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 05:38 PM
I had heard something along the lines of Charlesinator re: big house. I've been to the Big House twice since it opened, and a young gent from the northeast has been running the house since it opened. If I heard his name, I would remember it.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 06:16 PM
That would be EJ Devoutakis (spelling may be wrong). He's doing a great job and one of these days he will put that payphone in the closet back up on the wall where Willie had it installed 40 years ago so the family could make and get phones call while they were on the road 498 days a year. He used to stack dimes on top (he thought of just about everything they'd need).
As far as Kirk goes, it was very considerate of the band and management to let him move on without making a fuss. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what he did or did not do to deserve this but he worked for them tirelessly for many years and their keeping it low key was doing him a real service. Nobody needs to have their laundry hung out to dry in the public's eye. And, I for one, am grateful for all he did for the band and for me. He and Kristen are very special people; she now has a great job at the Cox Capitol Theater and whatever Kirk is doing, I'm sure he's making a valuable contribution. He's a good man.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 06:20 PM
I do not know what happened, but I was glad to see Kirk quoted in this article about Warren a couple weeks ago:

http://www.macon.com/2011/11/04/1770799/haynes-to-share-new-soulful-sound.h tml

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 06:36 PM
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That would be EJ Devoutakis (spelling may be wrong). He's doing a great job and one of these days he will put that payphone in the closet back up on the wall where Willie had it installed 40 years ago so the family could make and get phones call while they were on the road 498 days a year. He used to stack dimes on top (he thought of just about everything they'd need).
As far as Kirk goes, it was very considerate of the band and management to let him move on without making a fuss. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what he did or did not do to deserve this but he worked for them tirelessly for many years and their keeping it low key was doing him a real service. Nobody needs to have their laundry hung out to dry in the public's eye. And, I for one, am grateful for all he did for the band and for me. He and Kristen are very special people; she now has a great job at the Cox Capitol Theater and whatever Kirk is doing, I'm sure he's making a valuable contribution. He's a good man.


That's him, and I agree he is doing a very very good job at the Big House. He was very gracious to me and treated me more as a friend as opposed to a customer.
As for Kirk, your post is great and I can only personally say "I agree with everything you said" Well stated and thanks for refreshing my memory. Peace John

 

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  posted on 11/18/2011 at 11:38 PM
I enjoyed seeing Kirk announce the Mule last New Year's run as he used to do in the good old days.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 08:32 AM
I heard it was Gregg who had something to do with Kirk being fired. If not for Kirk who knows what would have happened to the big house. He and his lovely wife bought the house and lived there many years. It was so cool in the earlier days at the Big House to visit and chat with Kirk he just loved talking about the Brothers and music in general. He is missed on tour.You could always see him wondering around back stage at the shows. he was a fixture..
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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 08:40 AM


Thanks Pastdreams...you said it well.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 10:09 AM
Kirk is a really good guy; he made sure I got a backstage pass in 1993 when Hittin' The Note was still a newsletter and not yet a magazine. And ya just can't thank a guy enough for that. Met him at the Big House in 1996 and made sure I thanked him too. Really good guy, really good photographer. Ya won't ever hear me say anything other than nice about Kirk West.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 10:55 AM
If you take in the Allman world past the music through the 90's on, it seems to me they are a pretty private band. That is great on one hand and also leaves people on the outside to fill in the missing blanks. We see the bits and pieces that appear above the surface, a small part. Add in back stage psst, psst, and friends of the band, psst, psst, and some nice twists ensue. And everyone has their vested interest in hand, even down to this level, no matter how small it is. What stands out is stuff happens in cloaked secrecy, and then looks to us as "heavy handed". Maybe it wasn't. Who knows? Not us. But there has been plenty to ponder on, roadies leaving, Dickey of course, guitarists in flux after Dickey, resurfaces of past fueds (RD and BT) here in print.... add in the management that does not want a dialoge with the fan base, (show dates found out on other web sites first) and it fuels threads like this.

Did I answer? My answer: It is probably something you will never really know. Kirk seemed very cool to me, althought he always seemed part human, part elfin hobbit to me

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 11:03 AM
I am by no means an insider, nor privy to any inside information. But from what I understand Kirk is still in charge of the archives, this coming from someone who knows Kirk. Apparently he was relieved of his "tour manager" duties. As others have said, no one really knows why. I'm glad he's still involved with the band because I don't think there's really been anyone else who has cared enough to store and make available the archive shows that many of us have enjoyed. Only someone who cared about the band very deeply would have gone to all the trouble he has. Whatever the reason Kirk was "demoted", he still deserves a special place in ABB land. As far as the demotion goes........I say those like myself who do not know should not speak.

[Edited on 11/19/2011 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 11:14 AM
I like Kirk and we had a couple nice conversations,but i've been hesitant to contact him thinking he may feel I'm intruding on his personal business...may be worth it since he's a guy I got on with nicely...hope he won't get pissed,but I would like to know he is doing ok....thanks for this thread...I guess I'm a bit ashamed i needed this reminder to do the right thing....


So I'm so happy I called him...he sounds good and it was great to speak again..he was not pissed I called..the opposite,he was very gracious...a good man....

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 12:23 PM
It's E.J. Devokatis (pronounced Dee-vo-kay-tis) who is the current Big House Museum curator and archivist. E.J. toured with Gov't Mule as a roadie for years, was and still is very close to those boys. You won't meet a finer fella than E.J.

If you go back and look at the liner notes on the Dreams box set, you'll see Kirk listed as "Associate Producer." Kirk worked tirelessly for years to keep the ABB musical and historical vision alive. Without Kirk and Kirsten, there would be no Big House Museum. Kirk was also instrumental is building Hittin' The Note from a newsletter to a quarterly magazine and official ABB merchandiser. He is still a regular contributor to the magazine with his photo journal essays of historical blues locations and performers.

Whatever transpired between ABB and Kirk doesn't change his contributions to our community. I'm proud to know him and always enjoy seeing him in Macon.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 12:34 PM
I think I've met E.J., Dave. My brother used to play guitar for Alanis Morissette and maybe ten years ago he introduced me to a guy named E. J. who basically was a "runner" for Alanis but was way involved in the ABB circle even then. I"m going to check with my bro and see for sure if it's the same guy.

 

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I think I've met E.J., Dave. My brother used to play guitar for Alanis Morissette and maybe ten years ago he introduced me to a guy named E. J. who basically was a "runner" for Alanis but was way involved in the ABB circle even then. I"m going to check with my bro and see for sure if it's the same guy.

it is...

As for Kirk, all i can say is he someone i am honored to have as freind..
He opened his doors long befroe anybody said "museum" to all kinds of us , at all hours of the day and night , often with no notice.
He knew that incredible way this band reached into our souls and I think he took real joy in sharing that with the fans whenever he could.
As Dave said, he and Kirsten provided so much to so many and through thier vision, they continue to.
As a musician, he allowed me to be a tiny part of something so powerful, that literally changed the course of my life for the better.

Kirk could call me anytime, anywhere and I would be there for him...

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 04:32 PM
Kirk was and is an incredible archivist. When doing some photo research, I had the privilege of visiting the attic room at the Big House (it used to be the party room; can you imagine them getting a full size pool table up those steps?)
Anyway, at that time (and maybe still) there was metal shelving as far as the eye could see (it's a big space) filled with tapes of all forms, photos, magazines; you name it, he had it. He came to Macon as a fan and bought the Big House and lived there for many years with his wife, Kirsten. They were always pretty gracious about letting total strangers come into their home as long as you didn't let the dogs escape through the front door. And it was a comfortable home, too; not the polished, snazzy place it is now. I kinda liked it that way; it was still a home, not a museum. Ah, so much for progress.
He once told me that he "loved The Allman Brothers Band almost as much as his wife and two of his three dogs". I loved that about him.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 08:16 PM
To be perfectly honest Kirk was the only guy for most of us that allowed us to believe that the ABB cared as much about us as we did them.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 09:37 PM
I don't miss all the behind the scenes drama involving KW. Interesting to know he's still involved with the ABB in some way.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2011 at 11:27 PM
Kirk has always treated me like a brother no matter where I saw him.....

And he opened up the Big House to people like me before it was a museum. Tons of people and he and Kirsten always did it with a smile.

I doubt any other other band has had a conduit to their fans like Kirk....

And I LOVE him and Kirsten to death.....

 

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  posted on 11/20/2011 at 12:13 AM
Kirk is/was the man nice as can be. Not suprising Bigann would try and take a dump on the thread.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2011 at 12:27 AM
Really? I didn't say one negative thing about KW. Interesting that you read more into my statement than what I said.

 

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