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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 06:58 AM
what ever happened to the duane box set and the live 69-79 box set?
 
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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 08:25 AM
The Duane Allman Anthology vol 1 and 2 are available in stores and online I'm sure

 

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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 09:08 AM
The Duane box-set must be coming up for its 20th anniversary soon.

Time for a remastered, expanded version?



 

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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 10:39 AM
DEFINETLY!!!!
 
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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 09:31 PM
the duane box was seperate from the an anthology series. it was supposed to have all new and different stuff. the live box 69-79 was live allman bros. stuff. talked to kirk about them years ago. hoping they will be released.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 09:58 PM
Not trying to stir anything up, but in case tang doesn't know, Kirk doesn't work for the ABB any more. Any project you talked to him about "years ago" is probably dormant at best.

The Archive series may have taken the place of the 69-79 box set, but that seems to be on hold as well. Hasn't been any news about the Duane box in a long time.

Sorry, but I wouldn't hold my breath on either of those.

 
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  posted on 9/27/2011 at 11:43 PM
Neither would I and IMHO only, its a dang shame. Just my 02 worth

 

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  posted on 9/28/2011 at 04:19 PM
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Not trying to stir anything up, but in case tang doesn't know, Kirk doesn't work for the ABB any more. Any project you talked to him about "years ago" is probably dormant at best.

The Archive series may have taken the place of the 69-79 box set, but that seems to be on hold as well. Hasn't been any news about the Duane box in a long time.

Sorry, but I wouldn't hold my breath on either of those.

didn't know kirk doesn't work for them any more. is it because they don't tour as much?
isn't there any one else in the bros. circle to see these projects get released?

 

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  posted on 10/2/2011 at 08:05 AM
Just a shame==it always gets to me when i see, read, or hear about another Grateful dead archive release be it CD or DVD---and lets not get into the Rhino deal---Always very frustrating to me that a band with such a treasure chest of material can never get their act together--ljust saying...........
 
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  posted on 10/2/2011 at 08:18 AM
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Just a shame==it always gets to me when i see, read, or hear about another Grateful dead archive release be it CD or DVD---and lets not get into the Rhino deal---Always very frustrating to me that a band with such a treasure chest of material can never get their act together--ljust saying...........


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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 08:51 AM
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Just a shame==it always gets to me when i see, read, or hear about another Grateful dead archive release be it CD or DVD---and lets not get into the Rhino deal---Always very frustrating to me that a band with such a treasure chest of material can never get their act together--ljust saying...........

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 09:49 AM
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Not trying to stir anything up, but in case tang doesn't know, Kirk doesn't work for the ABB any more. Any project you talked to him about "years ago" is probably dormant at best.

The Archive series may have taken the place of the 69-79 box set, but that seems to be on hold as well. Hasn't been any news about the Duane box in a long time.

Sorry, but I wouldn't hold my breath on either of those.
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didn't know kirk doesn't work for them any more. is it because they don't tour as much?
isn't there any one else in the bros. circle to see these projects get released?


Tang, Kirk was dismissed under some ... um ... strange circumstances ... alledged missdeeds. Although that may be frogotten now as Kirk has been spotted backstage at at least one concert. Anyway Allman Brothers Management, or lack there of, remains one of the great mysteries of all time. The fact that they still maintian popularity is due in large part to luck alone. Certainly not due to any thought out planning.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 10:11 AM
I'd say they are popular because of their music and the live playing ability, much important than management.

I'm not sure people give the ABB enough credit for things they did in the 90s that set them up for where they are today. They played significantly with younger jam bands of the time...and seemed to intentionally stay away from the legacy tours that included other Southern rockers from the 70s. This seemed to help them tap into the late night talk show circuit, where they performed repeatedly (younger audience demographics)

They also were one of the first to tap into the power of the internet with a website and great email mailing list (credit on that one may simply go to Rowland and Lana but it happened).

I agree there seems to be a market for more archival type releases, including CD and DVD, but those came to a stop 3-4 years ago. The ABB never recorded live material like the Dead so it's hard to compare.

No public reason was given for Kirk's dismissal (others may know more than I, but I'm guessing some of it is internet speculation).

 

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 01:23 PM
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I'd say they are popular because of their music and the live playing ability, much important than management.

I'm not sure people give the ABB enough credit for things they did in the 90s that set them up for where they are today. They played significantly with younger jam bands of the time...and seemed to intentionally stay away from the legacy tours that included other Southern rockers from the 70s. This seemed to help them tap into the late night talk show circuit, where they performed repeatedly (younger audience demographics)

They also were one of the first to tap into the power of the internet with a website and great email mailing list (credit on that one may simply go to Rowland and Lana but it happened).

I agree there seems to be a market for more archival type releases, including CD and DVD, but those came to a stop 3-4 years ago. The ABB never recorded live material like the Dead so it's hard to compare.

No public reason was given for Kirk's dismissal (others may know more than I, but I'm guessing some of it is internet speculation).


I'll agree with your first statment Tim. They certainly are popular because of their music. So ... why no new music in 10 years from the ABB and 10 years prior to that? They are popular for their ability to play live. Their 4th of July Charlotte shows were legendary and I'm told they used to play GA as well.

True the ABB in the early 90's acted like regular rock bands i.e. release albums/cd's & tour. I know the paradigm has changed and whether or not it's management or the principals who are actually to blame for the lack of product or promotion, but it is a shame IMO.

As for Kirk ... love him or hate him ... he did appear to at least try and open a dialogue between the band and the fans and promote that sense of brotherhood that existed early on in the careers. I choose to believe it was real and not just gimmick.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 02:10 PM
I've mentioned this before, but I'll mention it again. This is based on what I was told specifically by members of the band and what I know from working in the industry...

All this material we keep saying the ABB is sitting on, just isn't there. The majority of anything that is out there is not owned by the ABB. Not legally. it is owned by the record labels... I lost track of who would own the Duane material now, but it used to be PolyGram. Almost all of the 90's material is owned by Sony. Depending on what the contract says, even soundboards made by the band in these time periods are most likely owned by the label.

The archive series released shows that no label could claim ownership of. Tapes the band made that would fall out of their contract restrictions.

That is why when most of the truly great soundboards or multi-tracks come out they are on a label and not put out through the band. (the fillmore & atlanta stuff)

As far as I know the band owns everything from 2001 to the present. Which is why we have seen so many releases since then.

The legalities of this stuff runs deep... why do you think you see so many issues with material coming out for many of the big classic bands? We waited over 20 years just to get Beatles albums REMASTERED... just the same stuff remastered. With all the amazing and historically significant Beatles material out there, the only really unreleased things we've got were the 3 Anthology CD's and not too much beyond that, regardless of the amount of material out there.

Likewise in The Who fan camp, there is always complaining about the amount of material that exists that isn't out... it's all for the same reasons.

The Grateful Dead are in a HUGE advantage over most bands due to the nature of how they set up their whole business organization from the start. They own all 30 years of their recordings... it's pretty amazing. We get so much stuff from them. Yet people still complain about it.

Someone just asked Pete Townshend in an online questionaire "How come every note of live and studio material by the Who isn't released" and his response was "you're living in a dream world".

I'm not sure what you're expecting, but it takes a lot to get this stuff going. I know, I'm with you all, I wish they could just put it all out... And believe me I think most artists would if it was that simple. All it means for them is happier fans and more money...

 

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 04:30 PM
that's good stuff Paulig, thanks.
I would love to know who owns the right's to all of
Duane Allman's stuff and why they see no reason to
take the time to put out a box set.
you would think by now we would get an anthology 3.
It makes me sick.

 

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  posted on 10/3/2011 at 05:32 PM
I'm sick right along with ya Babe, its ludicrous. Just a Duane Box Set released by whoever would make money...and market it with some forethought, the potential is there to make some good money. I may be wrong, but that is just how I feel. No intent to upser the applecart here, I understand what PauliG is saying. But 2 or 3 discs for Anthology 3??? Maybe these issues are why I'm not in the management business industry.
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