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  posted on 9/21/2011 at 04:24 PM
The Obama Investigations

You wouldn't know it if you solely paid attention to the mainstream media, but while President Barack Obama attempts to sell the country on hundreds of billions in new stimulus spending and $1.5 trillion in new taxes, his Administration is smack in the middle of several growing scandals: the Operation Fast and Furious gun-running debacle and the crony capitalism wrongdoing involving Solyndra and LightSquared.

In the fall of 2009, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which is overseen by President Obama's Department of Justice, launched an effort to sell weapons to small-time gun buyers in the hopes of tracing them to major weapons traffickers along the southwestern border and into Mexico. Their effort, which is known as Operation Fast and Furious, failed terribly.

Around 1,500 of the guns went unaccounted for, about two-thirds of those guns ended up in Mexico, a border patrol agent was shot and killed with weapons that were sold as part of the operation, 57 Fast and Furious weapons have been connected to at least 11 violent crimes in the U.S., and in Mexico an unconfirmed toll of at least 200 people have been killed or wounded with other weapons linked to the botched effort.

Save for recent reports from CBS News and the Los Angeles Times, and earlier reporting by ABC News, the mainstream media has largely ignored the story and the White House press corps has not bothered to ask the President or press secretary Jay Carney about the scandal since July 5 -- that's 78 days, and over 40 press briefings, without one single related question.

Meanwhile, congressional hearings were held, top officials associated with the operation were removed from their positions, and a third individual resigned. In the latest news, Mexican officials are complaining that, to this day, the United States has not offered an explanation about Fast and Furious, much less an apology. And yesterday, CBS News reported that a series of secretly recorded audio tapes thought to have been recorded in March reveal that an Arizona gun dealer and an ATF agent involved in the operation were worried about the unraveling scandal.

Turning from guns to butter, another scandal has cropped up, this one involving the solar panel manufacturing company Solyndra, which received a $535 million loan guarantee from the Energy Department as part of President Obama's green jobs spending spree. The President lauded the company when he spoke at the unveiling of its new factory in May of last year. But now, little more than a year later, it stands bankrupt and plans to lay off more than 1,000 employees. Days after it filed for bankruptcy, the FBI raided the company's offices and the homes of its executives.

The Obama Administration had a lot riding on Solyndra and the promise it offered. The President had made "green" energy a centerpiece of his failed plan to boost job growth in the United States, likening his effort to America's "moonshot"--the space race following the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik. The import of the company's bankruptcy was evident in a January 31 e-mail between Office of Management and Budget staff regarding "Solyndra optics." In the e-mail, the staff discussed what it would look like if the company went belly-up down the road, its implications for the 2012 elections, and how an earlier default might give the Obama Administration some credit for "fiscal discipline."

Then there's the story of LightSquared, a wireless start-up company backed by billionaire Democratic donor Philip Falcone. The Daily Beast reports that military officials fear that the company's technology could interfere with GPS signals--and that "two U.S. officials allege the White House tried to influence their [congressional] testimony to rush key testing, to LightSquare's benefit."

Enter the investigations. Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said Tuesday that his committee plans to investigate government loans to private companies made by the Obama Administration, according to The Hill. "I want to see when the president and his cronies are picking winners and losers," Issa said. Now, Reuters reports that Solyndra's chief executive and chief financial officer will invoke their Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to answer questions at the hearing on Friday.

A cross-border gun-running scandal, deaths in the United States and Mexico, staff removals and resignations, secret audio recordings, complaints from foreign officials, hundreds of millions of dollars in loans, bankruptcy, an FBI raid, campaign donors, and allegations of inappropriate White House influence in congressional testimony.


There are serious questions coming out of Washington. It's time the media start demanding answers.

 

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As soon as the gop launches investigations into where about nine billion dollars went missing at the start of the war then I'm not getting to distressed....just more of the gop looking for ways to sink Obama.

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2011 at 10:08 PM
The GOP should investigate and impeach if need be. Aint like the folks that hate him are gonna support him anyway.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2011 at 11:02 PM
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just more of the gop looking for ways to sink Obama.


As if he needed a whole lot of help in that area.

 

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He hasn't done anything remotely close to the transgressions the Bush administration engaged in so going after Obama is an obvious move......wah wah wah...poor GOP can't stand not having a republican candidate in the white house ruining the country.

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.



Selective memory is a wonderful thing...there were many impeachment attempts by the Democrats during the Bush years, they just never went anywhere.
I'm sure the Democrats backed off for the good of the Country.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2011 at 07:39 AM
As far as Fast and Furious is concerned, the real question should be the underlying cause of such madness and why we continue to engage in the stupid, expensive,failed drug war that led to the operation in the first place. That said, Eric Holder should be held accountable as it's ultimately his dept. and I see little direct link to Obama.


 

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  posted on 9/22/2011 at 08:29 AM
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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


You guys are like a 45 record stuck on the chorus it is the same thing over and over, what president did not screw up? which administration was not crooked? which senate house or congress group ever did not lie to the people? for gods sake move on deal with the problems now and there are many gop demo, who give a rats A$$ we need to get this country on track and quick or you all will be looking at times of which none of us want....

 

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He hasn't done anything remotely close to the transgressions the Bush administration engaged in so going after Obama is an obvious move......


How can you say this? He is continuing many of the same policies that Bush had in place with regard to foreign policy, yet there is no outrage over it. You still have surveillance maintained, Gitmo is still open, there is still indefinite detention, renditions have been continued, there are still military tribunals, we still have troops in Iraq, there was a surge in Afghanistan and now we have a kinetic military action in Libya and drones flying everywhere killing terrorists, etc etc etc.

Why isn't the policy wrong now if it was wrong when Bush/Cheney were doing it?

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.



Selective memory is a wonderful thing...there were many impeachment attempts by the Democrats during the Bush years, they just never went anywhere.
I'm sure the Democrats backed off for the good of the Country.


Many? Well, one. Perhaps two. One for sure, the Kucinich/Wexler Resolution, which was sent to and subsequently died in committee. Pelosi wanted no part of impeachment. Cynthia McKinney did introduce a resolution on the last day of a Congressional session, that was was simply ignored and,of course, it expired that same day.

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


You guys are like a 45 record stuck on the chorus it is the same thing over and over, what president did not screw up? which administration was not crooked? which senate house or congress group ever did not lie to the people? for gods sake move on deal with the problems now and there are many gop demo, who give a rats A$$ we need to get this country on track and quick or you all will be looking at times of which none of us want....


Or, put another way, Presidents can do whatever they want.

 

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He hasn't done anything remotely close to the transgressions the Bush administration engaged in so going after Obama is an obvious move......


How can you say this? He is continuing many of the same policies that Bush had in place with regard to foreign policy, yet there is no outrage over it. You still have surveillance maintained, Gitmo is still open, there is still indefinite detention, renditions have been continued, there are still military tribunals, we still have troops in Iraq, there was a surge in Afghanistan and now we have a kinetic military action in Libya and drones flying everywhere killing terrorists, etc etc etc.

Why isn't the policy wrong now if it was wrong when Bush/Cheney were doing it?


As some have pointed out, Obama has proven to be vastly more adept at actually killing terrorists. And not just Bin Laden. Whether through legal means or otherwise. But to be fair, he has attempted to close Gitmo but was never able to secure the funding to do it. However, had he succeeded, that still doesn't mean he would have changed anything with regard to detentions, renditions, surveillance, etc....

 

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As some have pointed out, Obama has proven to be vastly more adept at actually killing terrorists. And not just Bin Laden. Whether through legal means or otherwise. But to be fair, he has attempted to close Gitmo but was never able to secure the funding to do it. However, had he succeeded, that still doesn't mean he would have changed anything with regard to detentions, renditions, surveillance, etc....


Not sure what the body count of terrorists has been under each administration, but I think the Obama administration saw that some of the policies under Bush actually worked. Obama was even gracious after they killed Bin Laden and applauded the efforts of Bush and Clinton and all those that came before him.

There was just a Frontline on PBS about Obama continuing many of the same policies that Bush started with respect to the war on terrorism. As John Rizzo, who is one of the top CIA attorneys, says in the piece, “With a notable exception of the enhanced interrogation program, the incoming Obama administration changed virtually nothing with respect to existing CIA programs and operations. Things continued. Authorities were continued that were originally granted by President Bush beginning shortly after 9/11. Those were all picked up, reviewed and endorsed by the Obama administration.”




 

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Actually, when it comes to terrorism, the words of Obama the candidate and the actions of Obama the President haven't been that far off. "I will capture or kill Bin Laden." I remember hearing that a lot.

The problem is, that doesn't fit the already pre-conceived notion that some have of him, so that's rarely even becomes a thought.

One side says..."How can you support him if he is continuing policies you once so vehemently opposed? Shouldn't you even be more outraged?"

The other side says..."How can you oppose continuing policies that you once so vehemently supported? Should you actually be happy?"

And so it goes...

 

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Counter-terrorism experts have noted the huge rise in the killing of actual Al Quada members since Obama took office. Richard Clark being one of them. This is probably due mostly to drones and better intelligence efforts from the CIA. Obama sharply increased the use of drones in not only Pakistan, but now also Yemen and Somalia. I also think an argument can be made that by shifting resources and attention away for the debacle of Iraq, Obama has delivered on a campaign promise. Whether this was done legally is another question. What I find most frustrating is our continued presence in Afghanistan when we know amassing large ground forces and the resources to maintain them (like thousands of very expensive private security forces) isn't what's actually winning the conflict against Al Quada.

I strongly hope that if Obama is re-elected, he will make it a big priority to get the hell out of Afghanistan. In fact, given the majority of the public agrees with my sentiment, he should make it a campaign issue and specifically say it will be a priority while campaigning and in the debates.

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.



Selective memory is a wonderful thing...there were many impeachment attempts by the Democrats during the Bush years, they just never went anywhere.
I'm sure the Democrats backed off for the good of the Country.


Name one impeachment attempt of the Bush administration. It never happened. Many wanted it to but it never happened.

Of course we know about the Republicans $hitting away tax payer $$$$$ to impeach over lying about blow jobs. I remember people like Henry Hyde leading the charge against and chastising Clinton when he had had an affair of his own. He hypocritically called his own affair when he was 41 years old a youthful indiscretion. LOL! But that is how the Republicans work.

Bush/Cheney and their whole crew could have been investigated for many many things but Obama took the high road and said no investigations when he took office. I am starting to wish they had gone full bore into investigations. How about the Republicans focusing on creating those jobs they promised with the last extension of the Bush tax rates???

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.



Selective memory is a wonderful thing...there were many impeachment attempts by the Democrats during the Bush years, they just never went anywhere.
I'm sure the Democrats backed off for the good of the Country.


Name one impeachment attempt of the Bush administration. It never happened. Many wanted it to but it never happened.

Of course we know about the Republicans $hitting away tax payer $$$$$ to impeach over lying about blow jobs. I remember people like Henry Hyde leading the charge against and chastising Clinton when he had had an affair of his own. He hypocritically called his own affair when he was 41 years old a youthful indiscretion. LOL! But that is how the Republicans work.

Bush/Cheney and their whole crew could have been investigated for many many things but Obama took the high road and said no investigations when he took office. I am starting to wish they had gone full bore into investigations. How about the Republicans focusing on creating those jobs they promised with the last extension of the Bush tax rates???



He lied under oath. It still means something, maybe not to everyone....

 

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When are we gonna start all of the investigations into the myriad of the scandals from the Bush/Cheney administration?????


That ship has sailed, when Nancy Pelosi gave the gavel to John Boehner. She had 4 years to try and bury them if she had evidence that was conclusive. Maybe they were"bipartisan" scandals.


The Dems took the high road. The reps won't even if they can't prove $hit. That is the difference.



Selective memory is a wonderful thing...there were many impeachment attempts by the Democrats during the Bush years, they just never went anywhere.
I'm sure the Democrats backed off for the good of the Country.


Name one impeachment attempt of the Bush administration. It never happened. Many wanted it to but it never happened.

Of course we know about the Republicans $hitting away tax payer $$$$$ to impeach over lying about blow jobs. I remember people like Henry Hyde leading the charge against and chastising Clinton when he had had an affair of his own. He hypocritically called his own affair when he was 41 years old a youthful indiscretion. LOL! But that is how the Republicans work.

Bush/Cheney and their whole crew could have been investigated for many many things but Obama took the high road and said no investigations when he took office. I am starting to wish they had gone full bore into investigations. How about the Republicans focusing on creating those jobs they promised with the last extension of the Bush tax rates???



He lied under oath. It still means something, maybe not to everyone....


Bush gets a pass on everything and his presidency is totally irrelevant to, well, everything.

Clinton, let's talk about his presidency all day long.

Awesome. Totally awesome.

 

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How about the Republicans focusing on creating those jobs they promised with the last extension of the Bush tax rates???


I would imagine the tax issue is a bigger issue for small businesses, as opposed to the big companies sitting on all the cash.

Companies are holding something like a trillion in cash because of uncertainty (nothing ever seems to be made permanent) and because there is zero demand. Also, as competition has become more global, it's become harder for individual companies to survive, and so they hold on to more cash to be safe. Rather than hiring workers, they are stuffing it in their collective mattresses and collecting zero interest on their money while they wait for a better time to invest. People want cash for a rainy day and they don't know how rainy it will get at this point.

For the big companies, I am starting to think there's not a whole lot that you could do to entice companies to hire. Even if you cut taxes on them, they're not going to hire just because they have the extra cash from the tax cut.....they already have the extra cash.

 

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For the big companies, I am starting to think there's not a whole lot that you could do to entice companies to hire.
US demand is not going to increase dramatically even if the unemployment rate were cut in half. While that would certainly help - a lot - it's not the longer term answer to our dilemma. US demographics, with such a huge portion of the public nearing or entering retirement, means that the group who drove consumption is entering a far less-consumptive phase of their lives.

Our salvation must come from reversing our abysmal balance of trade. We must sell more to other markets than we sell at home. That should be the central focus that drives our industrial, energy, and monetary policy. It is the only thing that will create sustainable jobs and help increase national wealth.

Fortunately, there is great opportunity in emerging markets. The question is whether we can take advantage of it. It will require a multi-faceted structural change regarding taxes, regulation, energy policy, tort reform, and resource use. Until we face up to the full dimension of the problem, we're not solving anything with the type of quick-fix band aid approaches we've become so used to in the past.

 

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