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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 07:31 PM
Those first 3 albums, man... the place they hold in my heart is immeasurable.

I remember so clearly as I was SO STOKED that there was a band who had the soul of the great 60's and 70's bands that I was too young to see, while still being modern and relevant. My dad had the Allmans, and I had the Mule.

Those early songs? Un-frikkin'-real!
Rocking Horse... Game Face... Thorazine Shuffle... Birth of the Mule... Temporary Saint... Left Coast Groovies... Money Hill. **** , I could go on all night.

And live? Even better than the albums. Remember, this was back before the Mule was big, so could see them for $10-15 in Wetlands or Roseland or Irving Plaza or any of those amazing places (and believe me, I saw them at all those places and a dozen more) and stand right by the stage and just FEEL IT.

I took a whiz next to Allen Woody in the Wetlands one night. I said "I'd shake your hand, but..." and he laughed. Awesome dude.

NYE, 1995 (or '96, or maybe '97, I forget) in NYC. The band played an hour acoustic set at 11:00 pm. Just before, Matt Abts yelled down to me (I was right in front of the stage) and told me to give him the "cut throat" sign when it was 5 minutes to midnight. I did, and the band stopped the song they were playing and began a countdown. Then at midnight, they started "Mule" (I think).

After the show, I met Warren on the street. I was nervous (I was only 16 or so) and tired and said something stupid like "I wanna shake both your hands...they're both so magical!" (haha; so lame). But he was so nice.

Man, I miss those days. What they have done since has been good - even great in spots.

But nothing, nothing, nothing can top those early days of the Mule.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 07:54 PM
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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 08:03 PM
Amen. Missing Woody always. The original trio blew my young developing musical mind. I am so lucky to have attended so many early Mule shows. I will always support Mule music, but the current incarnation is a very different animal.
 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 08:12 PM
And they'd play for hours and hours. I never saw them play for less than 3 hours, and that was sans intermission and all that junk. Just good, honest playing until the night wore away.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 08:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-GmnqhBAuA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWePgrvAlyI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpPKbq4MBRk&feature=related

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 08:48 PM
That Game Face video is GREAT! The songs on the first two records are so good. Dark, dark, amazing tunes. I love this band.
 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 09:10 PM
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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 09:16 PM
Yep...the early Mule Years were beyond great man...like Clapton meets West meets James Gang meets Ozzy meets Steppenwolf and many other great bands, shake, drink a few Rolling Rocks...and get ready to have you ass rocked off. Had the priviledge of meeting both Warren and Woody and they are both great dudes!!! Long live Woody man...I bought a CD at a show, and they all Warren, Woody, and Matt signed it for me...took it home that night, sealed it in plastic with the tkt stub and some other stuff, went out and bought the disc the next day. The signed copy has never been outta the protective covers, except when I gotta look at it and think back to the good ole days!!! Such humble and talented gentleman....my hat is off to them. Miss the he(( out of them.

 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 09:17 PM
Love Woody to death and loved the first three albums. However, IMO the Power and Beauty are still there and going strong. Looking forward to see what they do in the studio after taking their first real break since Hess joined the band. I think they will come back refreshed with new ideas and this being Jorgen's second studio work with them I believe we are gonna get something very special!

 

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  posted on 9/16/2011 at 09:58 PM
i agree with 68, the spirit is still there but the late 90's were amazing. I saw them in 95 in a coffee house in PA. it got so loud that the plaster in the ceiling started breaking apart. I met Warren a few years later after Dose came out and mentioned it and he knew the exact place and show. Mantis Green. Wilkes Barre , PA. I hope it's not under water right now... That area is not getting the coverage it should be on the news....
 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 01:26 AM
I first saw the mule in new haven ct. 1995. they did a free show at [toads place] and just tore it up!. I remember seeing Allen Woody walking down york street before the show, wearing a shirt that said [yale divinity school] and flanked by a few lovely young ladies. with a sh!t eating grin on his face.

 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 05:22 AM
How well I remember!

My introduction to Gov't Mule was thanks to my good friend BANANNAMAN who talked me into driving 2 hours alone to meet up with him at some funky little music venue called Jeds just outside of Toledo, Ohio.

This was on 5/9/98. I know this was the actual date because the ticket stub is permanently enshrined on the cork message board above my desk.

They were touring the album Dose at the time and they blew me away! Totally !

The next day, the debut, Dose, and Live At The Roseland became part of my CD collection and I became a lifetime member of the Mule Army.

I also love the post Woody stuff, but the Woody era, especially the shows from the Dose tour, are pure magic for me .

Great post and thanks for calling up some great memories....

 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 05:34 AM
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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 06:14 AM
I first saw the Mule at shank hall in milwaukee,wi on 7-19-95.I still have the cassette sampler they handed out at the beginning of the show.Very few people attended the show and were hanging back, so Warren got on the mike and told everyboby to move on up.Then they proceeded to rock the place.very memorable show!!

 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 07:50 AM
Nothing like the original Mule!

The WHB shows that I have seen are closer to those original jams than any version of the Mule since Woody's passing. Nice to hear Warren sounding fresh and inspired.

 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 08:56 AM
Govt Mule was a Godsend!!!!!!!

Nothing better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VLBgb6S1e0&feature=related

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 10:14 AM
One of those real early tunes was Painted Silver Light.

It still gets me every time. Hits like a freight train.

 

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  posted on 9/17/2011 at 12:43 PM
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Nothing like the original Mule!

The WHB shows that I have seen are closer to those original jams than any version of the Mule since Woody's passing. Nice to hear Warren sounding fresh and inspired.


Although I dig the WHB, I have to respectfully disagree that they are closer to the original Mule than the current lineup with Jorgen. Much more mellow and nothing in WHB that resembles Woody in any way IMO. Live I think the current GM lineup is the closest thing to the original lineup. Jorgen's loud and sinister bass tone constantly bring back memories of Woody for me. Hopefully they can come up with some studio work that is equal in intensity and quality as there live shows. Loved the last few albums but waiting for something that can be compared to the first three albums.

 

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Love Woody to death and loved the first three albums. However, IMO the Power and Beauty are still there and going strong. Looking forward to see what they do in the studio after taking their first real break since Hess joined the band. I think they will come back refreshed with new ideas and this being Jorgen's second studio work with them I believe we are gonna get something very special!


I hope Warren takes the time to really craft some good songs and top quality lyrics because although there have been some very good songs on the last couple of albums the lyrics seem like he went into a back room in the studio to write them (which is what he in fact did) The first three albums and some of Warren's other work proves he can write great lyrics.

 

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Nothing like the original Mule!

The WHB shows that I have seen are closer to those original jams than any version of the Mule since Woody's passing. Nice to hear Warren sounding fresh and inspired.


Although I dig the WHB, I have to respectfully disagree that they are closer to the original Mule than the current lineup with Jorgen. Much more mellow and nothing in WHB that resembles Woody in any way IMO. Live I think the current GM lineup is the closest thing to the original lineup. Jorgen's loud and sinister bass tone constantly bring back memories of Woody for me. Hopefully they can come up with some studio work that is equal in intensity and quality as there live shows. Loved the last few albums but waiting for something that can be compared to the first three albums.


The WHB has a lot of great jamming but without that heavy distortion and bass which the Mule was and is known for.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2011 at 01:04 AM
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I hope Warren takes the time to really craft some good songs and top quality lyrics


I have been hoping the same thing since Dose. The lyrics on the first two albums blow my mind. Magical stuff IMO. There has been very little Mule since that has knocked me out since that time. I liked a bunch of the tunes from the Deep End projects, but many were written many years beforehand.

Warren wrote some really AMAZING stuff back then. I think, sometimes, the well just runs dry lyrically. It's got to be hard to keep churning out original lyrics and songs. Very few have been able to do it consistently throughout their careers. I guess its true that you have your whole life to write your first album and, sometimes, the ones that follow can be A LOT more difficult.

 

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Nothing like the original Mule!

The WHB shows that I have seen are closer to those original jams than any version of the Mule since Woody's passing. Nice to hear Warren sounding fresh and inspired.


Although I dig the WHB, I have to respectfully disagree that they are closer to the original Mule than the current lineup with Jorgen. Much more mellow and nothing in WHB that resembles Woody in any way IMO. Live I think the current GM lineup is the closest thing to the original lineup. Jorgen's loud and sinister bass tone constantly bring back memories of Woody for me. Hopefully they can come up with some studio work that is equal in intensity and quality as there live shows. Loved the last few albums but waiting for something that can be compared to the first three albums.


The WHB has a lot of great jamming but without that heavy distortion and bass which the Mule was and is known for.


We all hear it different I guess. Prefer Jorgen to Hess era also but turning loud doesn't make you Woody plus their is something almost "copy band" in trying. No disrespect but Jorgen is no Woody. Warren realized that he was kind of trying to copy his own band which was part of the reason for finally work on the other project.

Also there was nothing mellow about the shows that I just saw. The bass was grooving and laying the foundation for some intense sax, keyboard and guitar interplay much as Warren, Woody and Matt played off each other. I think Woody is looking down, smiling and grooving to Rons basslines. Busy player just like Woody.

Woody crushed my ribs in those early Mule days and they definitely didn't help my hearing any. Would give anything to do it all again.

 

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Nothing like the original Mule!

The WHB shows that I have seen are closer to those original jams than any version of the Mule since Woody's passing. Nice to hear Warren sounding fresh and inspired.


Although I dig the WHB, I have to respectfully disagree that they are closer to the original Mule than the current lineup with Jorgen. Much more mellow and nothing in WHB that resembles Woody in any way IMO. Live I think the current GM lineup is the closest thing to the original lineup. Jorgen's loud and sinister bass tone constantly bring back memories of Woody for me. Hopefully they can come up with some studio work that is equal in intensity and quality as there live shows. Loved the last few albums but waiting for something that can be compared to the first three albums.


The WHB has a lot of great jamming but without that heavy distortion and bass which the Mule was and is known for.


We all hear it different I guess. Prefer Jorgen to Hess era also but turning loud doesn't make you Woody plus their is something almost "copy band" in trying. No disrespect but Jorgen is no Woody. Warren realized that he was kind of trying to copy his own band which was part of the reason for finally work on the other project.

Also there was nothing mellow about the shows that I just saw. The bass was grooving and laying the foundation for some intense sax, keyboard and guitar interplay much as Warren, Woody and Matt played off each other. I think Woody is looking down, smiling and grooving to Rons basslines. Busy player just like Woody.

Woody crushed my ribs in those early Mule days and they definitely didn't help my hearing any. Would give anything to do it all again.


I think C Mule is just saying the " jams" are closer to the original,not the actual bands being compared , the music stylings are different.

In other thread I have out here I mention the "early" Mule in some what of a comparison to Zep. Not the music , but more with the power and musicianship that Zep played live with I think the early Mule is about the only band that has ever came close to that in a live setting. Just my opinion.

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  posted on 9/18/2011 at 01:29 PM
[QUOTE]Woody crushed my ribs in those early Mule days and they definitely didn't help my hearing any. Would give anything to do it all again.[QUOTE]

Woody crushed my ribs like no other. I have often said that the opening salvo of Whipping Post hasn't been the same since he left us. However, since Jorgen has joined the band he has also crushed my ribs many times. He crushed them big time at this years Mountain Jam. Listen to War Pigs from that show. Jorgens sinister tone and the way he works the fret board on the bass remind me a lot of Woody. You are dissing Jorgen big time by saying all they did was make him louder in the mix. He is a monster on the bass in his own right IMO.

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I have been hoping the same thing since Dose. The lyrics on the first two albums blow my mind. Magical stuff IMO. There has been very little Mule since that has knocked me out since that time. I liked a bunch of the tunes from the Deep End projects, but many were written many years beforehand.

Warren wrote some really AMAZING stuff back then. I think, sometimes, the well just runs dry lyrically. It's got to be hard to keep churning out original lyrics and songs. Very few have been able to do it consistently throughout their careers. I guess its true that you have your whole life to write your first album and, sometimes, the ones that follow can be A LOT more difficult.


I would certainly include Life Before Insanity in that. I actually like a lot of the lyrics from Deja Voodoo but the last album? Not so much. If it is true that his lyrical well is running dry then perhaps he should consider working with a partner. It was good enough for Jerry Garcia after all.

 

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