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  posted on 8/16/2011 at 04:31 PM
Interview with Tony Iommi in the Birmingham Mail.
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2011/08/16/black-sabbath-to- reform-with-original-line-up-and-new-studio-album-97319-29245431/

THE most closely guarded secret in rock music can be revealed – the original Black Sabbath line-up is getting back together.

Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward have begun rehearsing for a tour and new studio album.



In June this year vocalist Ozzy and guitarist Iommi wrote new material for a record that will be released next year.


‘‘We’re really looking forward to it and I think the stuff we’ve been writing is really good,’’ said 63-year-old Iommi. ‘‘It’s more back to the old original stuff.’’

He added that the reunion has been kept under wraps for some time.

‘‘It’s all been very hush-hush. Ozzy’s been the worst at trying to hold it back. He’s doing a lot of TV and he’s being asked stuff about a reunion and he’s going ‘well I never say never’.

‘‘He told me, ‘I don’t know what to say’.’’


Iommi's last version of Black Sabbath, called Heaven & Hell, came to an end when singer Ronnie James Dio died in May 2010.

‘‘I had umpteen number of people on the phone asking if I fancied getting together with a band but I couldn’t tell them what I was doing. I just had to say I was busy.’’

The classic line-up of Black Sabbath formed in Aston in 1969.

Ozzy was fired from the band in 1979 and there has since been many different members since.

Iommi said his only concern about the current reformation was the health of drummer Bill Ward who in the past has suffered a heart attack.

‘‘He hasn’t been 100 per cent. He had an operation a few months ago, so we’ll see how he is.’’

 

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  posted on 8/16/2011 at 06:01 PM
tony iommi responded and makes it sound like this is not true
 

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  posted on 8/16/2011 at 06:36 PM
I'd love to see them live one more time....

 

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  posted on 8/16/2011 at 07:38 PM
This is from :

http://www.black-sabbath.com/

August 16, 2011

Tony Iommi Denies Reunion Talk, calling it "absolute nonsense"

The net has been abuzz the last 24 hours with a ton of reunion talk of Mk I Black Sabbath. It's all mostly fueled on an article from the Birmingham Mail newspaper where Tony Iommi reported to have talked about a reunion, etc... There were no official statements on the matter.

Until now.

Tony Iommi just issued this statement on his site (which is overloaded at the moment, as has been mine). Check this:

Black Sabbath Re-Union Speculation
16th August 2011


I'm saddened that a Birmingham journalist whom I trusted has chosen this point in time to take a conversation we had back in June and make it sound like we spoke yesterday about a Black Sabbath reunion.

At the time I was supporting the Home of Metal exhibition was merely speculating shooting the breeze on something all of us get asked constantly "Are you getting back together?"

Thanks to the internet it's now gone round the world as some sort of "official" statement on my part, absolute nonsense. I hope he's enjoyed his moment of glory, he won't have another at my expense.

To my old pals, Ozzy, Geezer and Bill, sorry about this, I should have known better.

All the best,Tony



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  posted on 8/16/2011 at 08:04 PM
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I'd love to see them live one more time....


The last time was a joke. Ozzy's voice is shot. Can't hit the high notes.
They don't even try Sabbath Bloody Sabbath anymore.

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 02:16 AM
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It's true alright. The cat is just out of the bag earlier than they would like. Whether the whole thing comes to fruition is of course another thing.

 

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 04:45 AM
Anyone here who knows me also knows that I am a huge Sabs fan and Tony Iommi is one of my all-time favorite guitarists.

But...even though I'm sure Tony and Geezer can still bring it home (the recent Heaven and Hell tour is proof of that), I have my doubts about Ozzy and Bill.

On the most recent live video that I've seen of Ozzy, frankly, his voice did not sound that good. He can still auto tune it in the studio if he wants, but that kind of thing would be a cheat and would not fly (IMO) in a live setting.

Bill (God love him) has had some serious health issues involving his heart and it may be too much to expect him to be able to sustain the rigors of a tour. He is still one of my favorite drummers but the fact is that he may no longer be up to the task.

As far as a new studio album. Well ...they tried two new studio tracks for the live Reunion album that were certainly welcome but were just OK and they scrapped the proposed album that they started after Reunion when they felt the initial tracks did not measure up to the classic material.

And ...that is a very high bar indeed.

A possible OK album and a possible so so tour would certainly sully a currently outstanding legacy IMO.

I love this band but....I would vote no...

And...I would be absolutely thrilled if they did and proved me wrong...









[Edited on 8/17/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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Anyone here who knows me also knows that I am a huge Sabs fan and Tony Iommi is one of my all-time favorite guitarists.

But...even though I'm sure Tony and Geezer can still bring it home (the recent Heaven and Hell tour is proof of that), I have my doubts about Ozzy and Bill.

On the most recent live video that I've seen of Ozzy, frankly, his voice did not sound that good. He can still auto tune it in the studio if he wants, but that kind of thing would be a cheat and would not fly (IMO) in a live setting.

Bill (God love him) has had some serious health issues involving his heart and it may be too much to expect him to be able to sustain the rigors of a tour. He is still one of my favorite drummers but the fact is that he may no longer be up to the task.

As far as a new studio album. Well ...they tried two new studio tracks for the live Reunion album that were certainly welcome but were just OK and they scrapped the proposed album that they started after Reunion when they felt the initial tracks did not measure up to the classic material.

And ...that is a very high bar indeed.

A possible OK album and a possible so so tour would certainly sully a currently outstanding legacy IMO.

I love this band but....I would vote no...

And...I would be absolutely thrilled if they did and proved me wrong...










[Edited on 8/17/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]


Agree with all of this and would just add. I'd hate them to do an average album and the last Heaven and Hell album was certainly that! IMO of course. Can Tony come up with enough killer riffs for a classic Sabbath album? Also, I've seen Ozzy 3 times in the last year or so and twice he was great and the 3rd time not so great. Buying a ticket might be a bit of a lottery then. And as Spacemonkey says, we ain't ever hearing S.B.S. again!

 

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 11:49 AM
I'd vote yes to an album and tour.

You always miss 100% of the shots you never take, and I think they'd regret not taking another shot at an album and a tour to bring the band full circle.

As long as the band is happy with the output and tour, it'll be a success, because while mass public acceptance is a fickle beast, particularly where album sales are concerned, imo, these guys legacy is a bit more than just album sales.

And personally, I don't see poor album sales of a new album diminishing their legacy anymore than releasing Technical Ecstacy or Never Say Die did. It'll never change the fact that these guy's created an original sound that influenced, and continue to influence, thousands of bands and musicians to this day.

If I was a young guitar player, or a young fan, who loved Black Sabbath, you'd have to scrape me off the ceiling if they did announce this.

But as an older fan, who's seen them before in concert, not only would I buy the record out of curiosity to see how it stacked up, I'd sure be standing in line first day waiting to buy tickets to see it live. The show I saw in '99 was flat out awesome, and Iommi/Butler still had it touring with Dio.

Yeah, they're old, but as long as they've got electricity, and that catalog of songs, they're still monsters, always have been, always will be.

Now if Iommi can't play....all bets are off, but I'm guessing thats not going to be the case.

 

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 11:52 AM
Bad news: http://www.iommi.com/index.php?story=130

Black Sabbath Reunion

"I'm saddened that a Birmingham journalist whom I trusted has chosen this point in time to take a conversation we had back in June and make it sound like we spoke yesterday about a Black Sabbath reunion.

At the time I was supporting the Home of Metal exhibition and was merely speculating, shooting the breeze, on something all of us get asked constantly, "Are you getting back together?"

Thanks to the internet it's gone round the world as some sort of "official" statement on my part, absolute nonsense. I hope he's enjoyed his moment of glory, he won't have another at my expense.

To my old pals, Ozzy, Geezer and Bill, sorry about this, I should have known better".

All the best, Tony

 

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 12:23 PM
Better news: http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&am p;newsitemID=162096

Iommi's manager is not denying the fellas are talking about getting back together, but he's pretty snippy about how this oozed out on the Internet.

A small website posts that they had a conversation with 2 members in Birmingham, shortly after a Birmingham News writer prints his story complete with Iommi quotes from an off the record conversation in June, it seems in order to not get outscooped and break the story first. And now here we are......Iommi to appear on a radio interview Fri/Sat, Eddie Trunks Metal Show, I believe, and of course his biography coming out this Fall.

Let see mass confusion, rumors, quotes, speculation, non-denial denials, drummer getting an operation, and snippy PR people.....seems like its pretty much the start of another Black Sabbath project to me.

 

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  posted on 8/17/2011 at 10:29 PM
My wife went to visit my daughter in Arizona back in March and they took a trip to L.A. They were on a tour in the Hollywood Hills snapping pictures of stars' homes. When she got home I saw a picture of a certain Toni Iommi coming out of Ozzy's house. She had no idea who he was but was certain it was Ozzy's house since it was pointed out by the tour guide. I knew then that a reunion was afoot. It probably just got out earlier than they wanted.

 

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  posted on 8/18/2011 at 01:09 AM
I saw a commercial that said that Iommi will be the guest on the first new episode of That Metal Show. Maybe he was saving the announcement for that.

He also has an autobio coming out....

 

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  posted on 8/18/2011 at 02:50 AM
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I'd love to see them live one more time....


The last time was a joke. Ozzy's voice is shot. Can't hit the high notes.
They don't even try Sabbath Bloody Sabbath anymore.

no thanks.


Ozzy hasn't been able to sing Crazy Train since he recorded it and that has never stopped him. No seriously.

A record would be cool for some. Personally Tony lost me in all those various Sabbath versions with assorted band members. There are only so many variations on those riffs and Tony has mined them harder than any. No shame as he wrote some of the best variations but the well is dry and has been for a while. As mentioned, the songs on Reunion didn't light the world on fire. A few songs on H&H but that was also pretty mediocre IMO. His stuff with Glenn Hughes is the highlight of his last 20 years by far.

Could Sabbath match a classic? No. They haven't managed that since perhaps The Mob Rules. But that shouldn't stop them from trying. The ABB will never come close to the original albums but we would all still love one. Same should apply for Sabbath.

They could match Never Say Die if they had the right producer. Someone they all accept even when he tells them something is crap. good luck finding one of those.

It won't add to any legacy but Tony did any damage that was going to be done years ago when he milked the Sabbath name. They survived that so getting the original members together certainly can't hurt.

Now Bill will never make it nor could he do it. I know some here love him and won't accept it but Bill couldn't handle it long ago and at various points throughout their history. Add all his health issues and there is no way. I saw Bill chuck all over his drums ending a Sabbath show in the 70s. Not pretty. I saw them again and Bill was too high. Speed was all over the place. Love him on album but never did much for me live.

Vinnie replaced him and I saw the best Sabbath shows I ever went to. Unfortunately Ozzy was gone.

Tony's book could be interesting depending on how open, honest and how much he remembers.

Seen Ozzy too many times to remember and have seen him at his worst (which was bad) and his best (couldn't believe it was Ozzy) over the years. The last couple of tours have actually been better for Ozzy.

That said - Time for some Sabbath!!!

 

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I'd love to see them live one more time....


The last time was a joke. Ozzy's voice is shot. Can't hit the high notes.
They don't even try Sabbath Bloody Sabbath anymore.

no thanks.


Ozzy hasn't been able to sing Crazy Train since he recorded it and that has never stopped him. No seriously.

A record would be cool for some. Personally Tony lost me in all those various Sabbath versions with assorted band members. There are only so many variations on those riffs and Tony has mined them harder than any. No shame as he wrote some of the best variations but the well is dry and has been for a while. As mentioned, the songs on Reunion didn't light the world on fire. A few songs on H&H but that was also pretty mediocre IMO. His stuff with Glenn Hughes is the highlight of his last 20 years by far.

Could Sabbath match a classic? No. They haven't managed that since perhaps The Mob Rules. But that shouldn't stop them from trying. The ABB will never come close to the original albums but we would all still love one. Same should apply for Sabbath.

They could match Never Say Die if they had the right producer. Someone they all accept even when he tells them something is crap. good luck finding one of those.

It won't add to any legacy but Tony did any damage that was going to be done years ago when he milked the Sabbath name. They survived that so getting the original members together certainly can't hurt.

Now Bill will never make it nor could he do it. I know some here love him and won't accept it but Bill couldn't handle it long ago and at various points throughout their history. Add all his health issues and there is no way. I saw Bill chuck all over his drums ending a Sabbath show in the 70s. Not pretty. I saw them again and Bill was too high. Speed was all over the place. Love him on album but never did much for me live.

Vinnie replaced him and I saw the best Sabbath shows I ever went to. Unfortunately Ozzy was gone.

Tony's book could be interesting depending on how open, honest and how much he remembers.

Seen Ozzy too many times to remember and have seen him at his worst (which was bad) and his best (couldn't believe it was Ozzy) over the years. The last couple of tours have actually been better for Ozzy.

That said - Time for some Sabbath!!!


I just bought a used copy of Past Lives last week and it was one of the ones with the pick in it. Man, that just KICKS ASS. Forgot how much time I spent headbanging to Sabbath back in High School....

 

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  posted on 8/18/2011 at 06:11 PM
If the original four are up to one more go-round, I just don't know how I couldn't be there. I was a Sabbath FREAK when I was a kid.......saw them in 1971, I was 16 years old.......hell, THEY were all kids, 22 or 23 years old. They're just in my blood. Ended up seeing them 5 times in the 70's, including Cal Jam, and they never dissapointed. I was there for the 1999 reunion tour and they were great again. To me, the original Black Sabbath is THE original Heavy Metal band. There's only one other Metal band I'd even bother paying to see.........Judas Priest.

 

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I just couldn't see Ozzy w/Sabbath putting together a good album at this stage. I was disappointed in the new stuff they did recently with Dio, along with the Dio/Sabbath album in 1992. I had had some hopes for their reunion with Dio based on how amazing Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules were back in the day. But the riffs and the vocal melodies seemed just forced.

Ozzy's latest single, "Scream" was terrible.

If they toured, I might see it. Saw Ozzfest with Sabbath back in 1999 and I'm glad I went. I'd be estatic if they came out with a quality new record. I enjoyed every Sab album with Ozzy, with the exception of Technical Ecstacy (Never Say Die is highly underrated and contains one my fav all-time Sab tunes Junior's Eyes).

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  posted on 8/19/2011 at 05:23 PM
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If the original four are up to one more go-round, I just don't know how I couldn't be there. I was a Sabbath FREAK when I was a kid.......saw them in 1971, I was 16 years old.......hell, THEY were all kids, 22 or 23 years old. They're just in my blood. Ended up seeing them 5 times in the 70's, including Cal Jam, and they never dissapointed. I was there for the 1999 reunion tour and they were great again. To me, the original Black Sabbath is THE original Heavy Metal band. There's only one other Metal band I'd even bother paying to see.........Judas Priest.



Hey Rob,

We are true Sab brothers as they were the first band that I ever got into and they will always be in my blood.

Sadly I have hearing issues now that might prevent me from attending a reunion show, but if they do reform, I will be searching out a copy of a live show to listen to at home .

God bless those lads ..

[Edited on 8/20/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 8/20/2011 at 08:00 AM
If they got together as musicians and were left to their own devices void of outside interference or influence....Well perhaps something of substance could rise to the surface ?

I too am a child of Sabbath, so to speak. My first ever concert was the Cal Jam that Rob spoke of.

 

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  posted on 8/20/2011 at 09:53 AM
I am ready for a show to watch these guys.
 

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  posted on 8/20/2011 at 10:26 AM

I'd rather have Tony Martin back or maybe Phil Anselmo..Ozzy does not do it for me anymore...maybe his bitch wife can sing for him......

 

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I'd rather have Tony Martin back or maybe Phil Anselmo..Ozzy does not do it for me anymore...maybe his bitch wife can sing for him......


Yeah, any of those options would be great.......... **** !

 

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I'd rather have Tony Martin back or maybe Phil Anselmo..Ozzy does not do it for me anymore...maybe his bitch wife can sing for him......


Hey Kenny,

Agree w/ you on Tony Martin. Some really nice songs here and there during his tenure as well as more than a few good ones..

As far as Sharon goes...I'm not saying anything bad about her here...

She scares me ...

[Edited on 8/20/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 8/20/2011 at 03:58 PM
FYI...My cable listing shows that the Metal Show Season opener with Tony Iommi is on at 11 pm Eastern tonight (8/20)

Got the DVR locked and loaded ...



[Edited on 8/20/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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  posted on 8/20/2011 at 09:12 PM
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FYI...My cable listing shows that the Metal Show Season opener with Tony Iommi is on at 11 pm Eastern tonight (8/20)

Got the DVR locked and loaded ...



[Edited on 8/20/2011 by les_paul_sunburst]


me too. next week show will be jani lane but thats not what the original show for next week was

 
 


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