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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 09:33 AM
I heard ''Rocking Horse'' and ''The Same Thing'' were cut from the BWIAB album. Have these recordings ever surfaced?

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 10:25 AM
I assume what you are asking is "have the versions of said songs supposedly cut from BWIAB" ever surfaced? Not that I know of. Of course this is the first I've ever heard of those tunes being cut. However, any instant live from 2001 on stands a better than 70% chance of "Rocking Horse" being on it. It can be found on several Gov't Mule releases as well as the ABB's HIttin'TheNote. "The Same Thing" can be found in just about as much abundance as it used to be Warren's one lead sung song per concert in the early days. What my question to you would be ... simply ... "Why?"

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 01:18 PM
It would be very interesting to hear the original Rockin Horse, as it was recorded with Dickey on guitar and Gregg on lead vocals. Presumably, Soulshine made the record instead. Soulshine was actually cut after Dickey had departed the recording session. They recorded live without Dickey and then he recorded his solos into it later.

I had not heard about Same Thing being recorded at that time, but it wouldn't be a stretch that it was.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 01:29 PM
I have never heard of "The Same Thing" being recorded during those sessions either, but that might just be because we were talking specifically about "Rocking Horse" when that was mentioned.

According to Warren Haynes, "Rocking Horse" was recorded (as mentioned) with Gregg on lead vocals and it was cut from the album because Gregg wasn't happy with his vocal, which is likely why when it was finally brought into the live rotation in 2001 Warren sang it.

It has never surfaced. I'm curious to know if it was closer to the Gov't Mule LP arrangement.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 01:57 PM
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According to Warren Haynes, "Rocking Horse" was recorded (as mentioned) with Gregg on lead vocals and it was cut from the album because Gregg wasn't happy with his vocal, which is likely why when it was finally brought into the live rotation in 2001 Warren sang it.

It has never surfaced.


Sounds plausible......History kind of shows that if Gregg doesn't like something, we don't hear it.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 01:59 PM
Maybe one day they will be released on "Dreams II" . I bet there's plenty of stuff in the vaults to fill another 4CD boxset. Wishful thinking of course.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 02:06 PM
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I have never heard of "The Same Thing" being recorded during those sessions either, but that might just be because we were talking specifically about "Rocking Horse" when that was mentioned.

According to Warren Haynes, "Rocking Horse" was recorded (as mentioned) with Gregg on lead vocals and it was cut from the album because Gregg wasn't happy with his vocal, which is likely why when it was finally brought into the live rotation in 2001 Warren sang it.

It has never surfaced. I'm curious to know if it was closer to the Gov't Mule LP arrangement.


The Mule version of course uses a lot of heavy distortion which was really not the sound of the Allman Brothers. I think the song Warren should have done live in those days is "Mean Woman Blues." I always loved that forgotten gem. Will probably never hear it again.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 04:55 PM
Yes, I'm talking about the one with Gregg on vocals and Dickey on guitar. I'm just surprised it never surfaced somewhere. Gregg not being happy with his vocal isn't a surprise, I heard they weren't happy with the studio ''The Same Thing'' either.

 

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  posted on 7/11/2011 at 09:17 PM
I heard from a pretty damned trusted source that "Rockin' Horse" was nixed by Dickey. and "Mean Woman Blues" was put on instead.

 

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