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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 03:14 PM
As you may or may not know, the Brothers were/are supposed to play some gigs this fall. However, I can tell you as fact that some of the gigs have been postponed. The reason given is 'Gregg's health'.
Now, I just read that Gregg has added more dates in 1/12, so, do any of you have any information or speculation as to what is actually going on?
Could it be:
1. Simply, after coming off a LONG summer tour, and with his recent serious health issues, Gregg knows he needs a few months rest before hitting the road again?
2. As Susan Tedeschi gains more and more control of Derek's performance time, Gregg has said 'screw it. I'm doing my own thing!'?
3. The same unscrupulous concert promoters that foiled some shows in the past have, once again, reared their greedy heads?
If you disagree with any or all of these, pllease add your own theory!
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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 03:43 PM
I think Gregg's health is never going to be "good." Heavy duty medicine for life; sick a lot of years. I think the ABB shows take a lot more out of him than GAF. And, yes, Derek has commited to TTB (Warren also doing his own thing, but he is a work whore and that wouldn't stop him. I think these things all contribute.

I am going to the benefit on 3/27. No road goes on forever

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 03:43 PM
I think Gregg's health is never going to be "good." Heavy duty medicine for life; sick a lot of years. I think the ABB shows take a lot more out of him than GAF. And, yes, Derek has commited to TTB (Warren also doing his own thing, but he is a work whore and that wouldn't stop him. I think these things all contribute.

I am going to the benefit on 3/27. No road goes on forever

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 04:04 PM
What dates were canceled?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 04:25 PM
Work whore? LOL. I had not heard anything about this. Can we have some linkage?

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 06:38 PM
Gregg may or may not still have Hep C. A liver transplant does not rid one of Hep C, Phil Lesh for example. It buys you lots and lots of time with Hep C as it takes many years for it to damage a liver from it typically. Ther reason I bring this up is Gregg talked about relapse after TX and he didn't have a second TX so sounds like...... so from that basis, someone with Hep C, in spite of a transplant and it's considerations, may still be dealing with some Hep "fatigue".

pure speculation based on a recent interview tidbit is all.... it really is his private biz, health disclosure is a personal choice. I do hope he is 100% healthy! He looks and sounds great lately so I wonder the validity of the health cancellation "rumours".

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 08:03 PM
'I think the ABB shows take a lot more out of him than GAF'
Right. Come to think of it emr, I don't think I've ever read about Gregg missing a note or a lyric with GAF. Because we've always expected perfection with ABB, I suppose folks are more forgiving with GAF.
I remember the headline of an article in 1989 by Rod Hudspeth that read 'By God They're Back'. At every Brothers show I attend, at least once I shake my head and exclaim, 'I can't believe that they're here and I'm here!!!

Folks, if I name venues, then people are going to be asked questions(that don't have any answers).

You're right Bird72. A friend of mine with cystic fibrosis had the miracle of a double lung transplant years ago. He still has CF, but iit's bought him a lot of time.

I know the public never get's a straight answer when an artist postpones a show. A lack of ticket sales is called a 'scheduling conflict'. When an artist's popularity swells mid tour, 'illness' is declared and the remaining shows are cancelled and rebooked in larger venues. Perhaps the answers given to venues and some promoters are just as vague.

I'm not knowledgeable on 'Hep fatgue', but it seems like something you deal with on a show to show basis, not something you take off for months in advance!

Please understand that my previous question is not actually about Gregg's health. I treasure every day the man still walks this earth. It's just that I know we have limited time left together and if fraud and outside pressure is robbing us of time(which it has in the past), then I want it exposed for what it is!

 
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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 09:29 PM
The Allman shows are a LOT longer. That is the main reason they are more taxing to Gregg I would assume.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 09:39 PM
Heck, a good ABB show leaves me exhausted!! I can only imagine how much hotter it is under the lights at a shed show when the ambient temp is 100 degrees f. Gotta be exhausting.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2011 at 09:43 PM
You really can't say choosing, for whatever reason, not to sell us tix constitutes fraud. But when there is a ready market willing to pay, and there is not a good reason, it might be malpractice.

It is frustrating not to have had a show here for going on 3 yrs. But if Gregg is not well enough, I have to accept that. Having seen a good number of shows myself, I consider any more a bonus. Now give us some shows!

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 01:39 AM
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2. As Susan Tedeschi gains more and more control of Derek's performance time, Gregg has said 'screw it. I'm doing my own thing!'?


Is this some attempt to create a "Yoko Ono" type scapegoat for the demise of the ABB?!

I think Derek is capable of deciding himself how he spends his time.









[Edited on 6/27/2011 by Shavian]

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 02:06 AM
Wow! What enlightening insight into why the the shows were postponed Shavian. By the way, do you think Bob Dylan's 'Don't Think Twice It's Alright' is a good song?
 
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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 02:17 AM
I have no interest in whether dates were cancelled as they would have been nowhere in my vicinity.

Only interested in challenging conspiracy theorists with vivid imaginations!




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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 04:05 AM
Spot on! I'm getting sick of reading all that crap about Susan Tedeschi. No more DTB due to Susan, no more ABB fall dates due to Susan, Derek plays to much commercial songs with not enough solos due to Susan, Global warming due to Susan, blah blah. Derek is perfectly capable of making those choices himself. I think that some of that crap i read about Susan in other threads is down right offending to both her and Derek.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 05:18 AM
I am tired of the Susan bashing too ABBDutch! Just have to pass it by. Believe me there are more people who like what TTB are doing than not.

The topic at hand though.... time will tell. Just roll with it.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 08:29 AM
Maybe it's Gregg's health, maybe "deals" couldn't be reached by the band, promoters, and venues, or maybe schedules couldn't be arranged for all the touring band members. Hell the bands management wasn't even able to work around Gregg's recording schedule in 2009 to set up 40th anniversary shows in Atlanta at the Fox (a major F up, that I am clearly still bitter about), so I could easily see that being the case. Obviously Gregg, Warren, Derek, and Oteil are working this year on promoting their own band's albums so maybe they thought they had the year free for that and family time and aren't interested in reconvening w/ the Brothers till next year?

Either way it sucks. Particularly if there isn't going to be the rumored Fox shows in Atlanta taking place this coming Winter. Further I see from Gregg's solo tour schedule that his Atlanta black out now fully extends from the Brothers to Gregg and Friend shows. That's great. Last time he played in Atlanta he played to sold out and welcoming crowd at the Tabernacle so obviously this makes alot of sense.

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 09:08 AM
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Global warming due to Susan
Well, she is pretty fvcking hot...

 

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I am tired of the Susan bashing too ABBDutch! Just have to pass it by. Believe me there are more people who like what TTB are doing than not.

The topic at hand though.... time will tell. Just roll with it.


Agree 100%.

I'm just not getting this thread. How much of this is fact?

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 11:59 AM
Hardly any I thought the Allman Brothers made it pretty clear they were taking the year off. Gregg is touring his A$$ off.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 02:37 PM
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Spot on! I'm getting sick of reading all that crap about Susan Tedeschi. No more DTB due to Susan, no more ABB fall dates due to Susan, Derek plays to much commercial songs with not enough solos due to Susan, Global warming due to Susan, blah blah. Derek is perfectly capable of making those choices himself. I think that some of that crap i read about Susan in other threads is down right offending to both her and Derek.



You and anyone else who feels this way should pick up the latest Hittin' The Note because Derek addresses all this crap. He's a little bolder here than I've ever heard him and I say "right on" to him, I'm glad he addressed it. GREAT enlightening interview, so I'm going to quote some from it:

"Derek had a few words to say to the naysayers: 'People always like what they can't have. While you're doing one thing they'll be bitching about what you're doing and when you change it, they'll be bitching that you're not doing what you were doing before, even though they were bitching about that! If you pay attention to that you'll drive yourself insane.' "

Derek continues later, "You know, at the end of the day, people respect you for sticking to your guns and doing what you believe in. I started out banging around little blues clubs in Florida and everybody wanted to come see the child play Allman Brothers tunes, and as soon as I stopped doing that there was an exodus out the door. You lose the whole fan base as soon as you start playing instrumental music. It's like, 'What the hell?!! You're supposed to do this !' I'm supposed to? Is that so? Well, I'm sorry. I mean just because you bought a $4 ticket at Skipper's Smokehouse once doesn't mean you get to dictate the next 25 years of my life. That's not how it works, but some folks think so. Now I understand that because you latch onto something that means something to you, but it's not a static thing; it's not a statue or a painting -- it's music. It changes and that's why you like it; you can't pin it down."

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 04:03 PM
Thanks for the quotes robslob!

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 05:28 PM
I spoke to him directly on June 16th about all this too. He laughed and had a few things to say but really listened to what I had to say. I love the article in HTN magazine. He isn't worried in the least if some folks don't like it. I also thought Lefty brought up some good points in the "other" thread about the fact that Susan stepped aside while Derek did his thing with Clapton and Santana. He is now supporting some of her desires. That's what couples do let alone two touring artists with two young children. Derek is young and this is just another aspect/stepping stone to his journey as an artist. There is SO MUCH more to come from him and some of it with Jimmy Herring! How about being happy for what he wants!

I would not rule out an ABB Fall show or two... few just yet, Afterall, there is no official word about any of it at this point. The only thing I had heard on satellite radio was that there could be something. Nothing definite. Go with the flow people...

 

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I spoke to him directly on June 16th about all this too. He laughed and had a few things to say but really listened to what I had to say. I love the article in HTN magazine. He isn't worried in the least if some folks don't like it. I also thought Lefty brought up some good points in the "other" thread about the fact that Susan stepped aside while Derek did his thing with Clapton and Santana. He is now supporting some of her desires. That's what couples do let alone two touring artists with two young children. Derek is young and this is just another aspect/stepping stone to his journey as an artist. There is SO MUCH more to come from him and some of it with Jimmy Herring! How about being happy for what he wants!

I would not rule out an ABB Fall show or two... few just yet, Afterall, there is no official word about any of it at this point. The only thing I had heard on satellite radio was that there could be something. Nothing definite. Go with the flow people...


Well said Sue !!

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 05:36 PM
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As you may or may not know, the Brothers were/are supposed to play some gigs this fall. However, I can tell you as fact that some of the gigs have been postponed. The reason given is 'Gregg's health'.
Now, I just read that Gregg has added more dates in 1/12, so, do any of you have any information or speculation as to what is actually going on?
Could it be:
1. Simply, after coming off a LONG summer tour, and with his recent serious health issues, Gregg knows he needs a few months rest before hitting the road again?
2. As Susan Tedeschi gains more and more control of Derek's performance time, Gregg has said 'screw it. I'm doing my own thing!'?
3. The same unscrupulous concert promoters that foiled some shows in the past have, once again, reared their greedy heads?
If you disagree with any or all of these, pllease add your own theory!
THANKS!


This just read to me like someone wanting to stir something up with talk knowing shows were canceled with "Gregg's health" as a reason and the Susan/Derek comment. I could be wrong, but that's how it came across to me.

Not to question the legitimacy of your sources, but since you didn't name them I either have to question that or you yourself.

Either way, it just doesn't come across as legit.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2011 at 06:36 PM
Do your own thing Derek!

Thank God Dylan and Miles didn't listen to the complainers.

[Edited on 6/27/2011 by kjw818]

 

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