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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 06:34 PM
That's right, they have to make decisions about which land to sacrifice to it and they have.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43018935/ns/weather/?GT1=43001

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032128/ns/weather

http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/natchez-ms-flood- record_2011-05-12

LAKE PROVIDENCE, La. (AP) -- Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal says federal officials have been given approval to open a Louisiana spillway as early as Saturday to avert a Mississippi River disaster in places like Baton Rouge and New Orleans.

Jindal said Friday that the Army Corps of Engineers had received permission to open the Morganza spillway for the first time in 38 years to relieve pressure on river levees. The corps says it will open the spillway when the river flow reaches a certain point, but an exact timing wasn't known. However, that flow rate is expected
to happen Saturday.

Sheriffs and National Guardsmen will warn people in a door-to-door sweep through the area, Jindal said. In addition to the 2,500 people living inside the spillway, there are 22,500 people and 11,000 structures in the backwater areas that could be flooded.

If the spillway had remained closed and the levees had failed, New Orleans could have been under as much as 20 feet of water.



 

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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 06:40 PM
The River is unstoppable, all they can do is try to direct where it goes. It brings up serious questions.

1) Do you keep trying to save New Orleans, which was built below sea level, at the expense of other towns?

Right now they have decided to do that.

2) How long will they allow people to live in a flood plain, and keep paying to rebuild, each time it floods?

Any hurricanes that come in there again, while not having the size or impact of Katrina, can flood out parts of New Orleans once again.

3) Should people be allowed to continually live in a flood zone, with reconstruction subsidized by federal funds, FEMA.

4) Should there be forced migration before the bext big hurricane hits?

This is Gordon Michael Scallions vision for the area of the Mississippi River, which he believes will become fifty miles wide at the area where it currently joins the Gulf of Mexico, essentially cutting the US into an east coast and a west coast separated by that river which will widen all the way up to the Great Lakes.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mapas_antiguos/images_future/mapa_USA-Map Cut_3B.jpg

There is prophecy from Edgar Cayce that says the Great Lakes will eventually empty into the northern part of the Mississippi River, when the land shifts and earthquakes occur in Ontario and the regions to the north.

Nobody from the govt. is saying why the river is rising so much, they can just say, we've had a lot of rain and climate change has melted ice in the north, is the situation more serious than people are being told? Will there have to be mass migrations?

[Edited on 5/13/2011 by gina]

 

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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 06:48 PM
Here are the rest of the maps after the changes that will happen according to Mr. Scallion. He had horrific visions or these things.

Click on each box to enlarge that particular area.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mapas_antiguos/mapasantiguos01.htm

 

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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 07:01 PM
As dramatic as the land earth changes are for the United States, there is even more for the rest of the world.

You can get the US and world maps at Gordon's site.

http://matrixinstitute.com/

Many might be tempted to dismiss his visions and projected land changes, but if you watch world events, particularly the weather ones, you might realize, something is going on.

 

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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 07:23 PM
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, you might realize, something is going on.


Frida said so years ago

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  posted on 5/13/2011 at 08:08 PM
Flooding from one of the world's great rivers is about as forseeable as it gets. You have to expect that those in the spillway path have flood insurance too. At least they have some warning.

The corps hopefully will manage it to minimize the damage. Hey, it's almost like we're controlling the weather!

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 09:05 AM
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What To Do With The Mississippi River



Pile up all your BS and use as a dam

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 09:42 AM
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What To Do With The Mississippi River



Put it in my purse?

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 01:19 PM
Any chance it can be directed gina's way?

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 01:22 PM
Pretty cool, when is this happening?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mapas_antiguos/images_future/mapa_USA-Map Cut_3B.jpg

Macon, GA—on the edge of Atlanta Bay.

(omg I just read that it may occur by the year 2012! - according to the future-map)

When is that Fox run Brock?

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 01:37 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387003/Army-WILL-open-Morganza-spi llway-save-New-Orleans-swollen-Mississippi--22-500-people-flooded-result.ht ml

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 02:53 PM
Here's hoping it works.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 03:20 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/15/us/15spillway.html?amp

Why is there no live feed, they said there would be.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/morganza

USACE (stands for US Army Corps of Engineers). Why can't we watch it as it happens? We should have sent Moogis, they would have showed it!

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 03:23 PM
Gina may have her moments of insanity; but this isn't one of them

All over the us we spend tremendous resources to save non-public land (New Orleans; beach houses, etc) from natural disaster. The price of doing so is staggering, and maybe, just maybe, if you build a 2 million dollar beach home in the sand and it washes away no one besides the owner should be responsible? (same for a 250K beach condo) Every year on Long Island millions/billions of dollars are spent dregding/transporting/placing sand to save private land.

btw - the only part of NO that didn't flood was the original 20 blocks of the French Quarter laid out by the original settlers. A lot of the land being re-developed is destined to one day be under water once more

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 03:24 PM
Aha, you can't keep the news from the people!

Live feed.

http://www.wafb.com/story/14645519/army-corps-to-hold-press-conference-on-m organza-floodway-today

Sorry guys, the feed was up and running, and then it went black as did the feeds from the other channels who have reporters there on the bridge. You know how the govt. is.
They probably don't want live anything. They have to control everything.

http://www.kplctv.com/story/14645119/la-readies-to-open-spillway-flood-caju n-country?redirected=true

The live feed that I saw had only one gate opened. By Sunday, all 350 bays at the 7,000-foot structure were to be open. The spillways could be opened for weeks, or perhaps less, if the river flow starts to subside.

25,000 people will have lost their homes after this relief effort.




[Edited on 5/14/2011 by gina]

[Edited on 5/14/2011 by gina]

 

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Gina may have her moments of insanity; but this isn't one of them

All over the us we spend tremendous resources to save non-public land (New Orleans; beach houses, etc) from natural disaster. The price of doing so is staggering, and maybe, just maybe, if you build a 2 million dollar beach home in the sand and it washes away no one besides the owner should be responsible? (same for a 250K beach condo) Every year on Long Island millions/billions of dollars are spent dregding/transporting/placing sand to save private land.

btw - the only part of NO that didn't flood was the original 20 blocks of the French Quarter laid out by the original settlers. A lot of the land being re-developed is destined to one day be under water once more


Not just beach houses but lots of oil refineries, petrochemical and heavy industry that is being protected in the Mississipi delta area.

 

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Gina may have her moments of insanity; but this isn't one of them

All over the us we spend tremendous resources to save non-public land (New Orleans; beach houses, etc) from natural disaster. The price of doing so is staggering, and maybe, just maybe, if you build a 2 million dollar beach home in the sand and it washes away no one besides the owner should be responsible? (same for a 250K beach condo) Every year on Long Island millions/billions of dollars are spent dregding/transporting/placing sand to save private land.

btw - the only part of NO that didn't flood was the original 20 blocks of the French Quarter laid out by the original settlers. A lot of the land being re-developed is destined to one day be under water once more


Not just beach houses but lots of oil refineries, petrochemical and heavy industry that is being protected in the Mississipi delta area.


That's OK as there is both a public and environmental reason for doing so, but the bad areas of private housing that went under should not be protected and never should have been rebuilt.

 

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  posted on 5/14/2011 at 04:03 PM
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As dramatic as the land earth changes are for the United States, there is even more for the rest of the world.

You can get the US and world maps at Gordon's site.

http://matrixinstitute.com/

Many might be tempted to dismiss his visions and projected land changes, but if you watch world events, particularly the weather ones, you might realize, something is going on.

I agree with you 100% Gina, There is more to this picture than just 'excessive rain and run-off'. Just my belief...but there has been way too much natural disaster the last couple of years to not make one wonder.

 

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Flooding from one of the world's great rivers is about as forseeable as it gets. You have to expect that those in the spillway path have flood insurance too. At least they have some warning.

The corps hopefully will manage it to minimize the damage. Hey, it's almost like we're controlling the weather!

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Wow...all that farm land. Maybe just this year they should try planting rice there. Of course, that would drive the price of rice down, thus making it a not so lucrative venture...probably warranting additional farm subsidies for the farmers. What the eff is going on?? Did that watershed really get pelted with that much rain recently?? Apparently so.

I saw on the weather channel that some areas got one month of rain in one week or less, but it was only in the 5-6 inch range. I wonder what the eff is going on too Charlie. And I also saw an interview with a couple people in the path of this spillway flooding and they (the interviewed) have no insurance, no where to go, no idea what to do, it was sad. What is going on...it aint good. And then you got Texas is a drought

 

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It's quite possible that several "water highways" could be dug from the Mississippi to places like west Texas and east into Georgia.
Projects like that would provide needed jobs and have ways to divert excess water from the river in times of heavy rainfall and runoff.
If they could be kept at at least a 5 foot depth year round, think of the recreational benefits of fishing, boating, swimming.

Just a few thousand "shovel ready jobs" available there.

 

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It's quite possible that several "water highways" could be dug from the Mississippi to places like west Texas and east into Georgia.
Projects like that would provide needed jobs and have ways to divert excess water from the river in times of heavy rainfall and runoff.
If they could be kept at at least a 5 foot depth year round, think of the recreational benefits of fishing, boating, swimming.

Just a few thousand "shovel ready jobs" available there.


this would be a boost to the economy



























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Pile up all your BS and use as a dam


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There is an excellent book about the flood of 1927, and the efforts to control the Big Muddy over the past 200 years, called "The Rising Tide," and written by a man I had the pleasure of meeting who still lives in New Orleans.. Interesting to be reading that they are blowing levees to save New Orleans, since that is what they did in 1927, flooding Plaquemines Parish, even thought the city wasn't actually under that great a threat.

The Mississippi River is going to go where it wants, and while it is great sport to make fun of gina by a few people who have little better to do, what she is saying here is not that far fetched. We are already seeing the effects of climate change, and I expect to be reading about severe weather and its consequences from now on. If I lived in low-lying land, I'd be thinking about where I wanted to move to.

 

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What to do with the Mississippi River?
How about dinner and a movie?
Candlesticks are always nice, maybe we could get her that.

 

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  posted on 5/16/2011 at 01:00 AM
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It's quite possible that several "water highways" could be dug from the Mississippi to places like west Texas and east into Georgia.
Projects like that would provide needed jobs and have ways to divert excess water from the river in times of heavy rainfall and runoff.
If they could be kept at at least a 5 foot depth year round, think of the recreational benefits of fishing, boating, swimming.

Just a few thousand "shovel ready jobs" available there.


I've been wondering about this same thing for a long time.

 
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