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  posted on 4/1/2011 at 05:14 PM
... GOLD



Uh oh, that can't be good. The Fed has also hinted at raising rates before the end of the year to battle inflation. That won't be good for gold/silver prices either.

 

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Gold is getting a wee bit pricey and I don't see how it could go up much more....but what do I know. I know silver has gone up about ten dollars an ounce since I bought into it but I don't know if I'm going to buy much more. Guess we'll see what's going to happen next.

 

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  posted on 4/1/2011 at 08:07 PM
Kramer says buy....CUBANS

 

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 12:11 PM
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... GOLD



Uh oh, that can't be good. The Fed has also hinted at raising rates before the end of the year to battle inflation. That won't be good for gold/silver prices either.


Munis are going to crash very, very soon. It will bankrupt many people in the US in 44 states. The states will require a federal bailout bigger than the Wall Street bailout. Buy silver and gold, dump your munis. The big banks have been quietly doing so.

 

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Munis are going to crash very, very soon. It will bankrupt many people in the US in 44 states. The states will require a federal bailout bigger than the Wall Street bailout.


I am waiting for the Fed to raise interest rates. Gold and silver will drop drastically and then I am a big buyer once again. If you are buying now, don't sell when it drops, it won't take long for the hyperinflation to kick in and your gold and silver will skyrocket.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 01:41 PM
Cramer says a lot of things.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 03:41 PM
If things go as bad as Jerryphilbob says they will. The best investment one can make is to learn how to fish, hunt and dress out an animal.

Who knows maybe what is worth a million dollars in gold today will only buy a can of beans and a loaf of bread sometime in the future ?

 

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 08:58 PM
cramer says no no no don't listen to jerryphilbob gold sell sell sell buy low sell high

 

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 09:12 PM
Cramer actually said on Friday to buy gold He had a caller ask if it was too late to get in on gold and silver and Cramer said NO, he thinks gold is going to 2000 an ounce and to BUY.

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Who knows maybe what is worth a million dollars in gold today will only buy a can of beans and a loaf of bread sometime in the future ?

Let me fix this for you ... "Who knows, maybe a million dollars today will only buy a can of beans and a loaf of bread sometime in the future ?"

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  posted on 4/2/2011 at 09:14 PM
Who can buy anything but the basic essentilals anymore? Not many I know.

 

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Once again... What you are saying makes no financial sense. Why would you not sell right now, as gold is at a high? You sell on a high and buy on a low. You are suggesting that people buy gold on a high, and that is not sound financial advice. Of course, I guess if people come here expecting to get their financial advice then they deserve what they get.

Gina, while muni's may see a decline in value, they will still pay dividends. Most muni's will go down in value (not necessarily a crash...) because they are invested in long-term bonds. Shorter-term bonds - maybe even intermediate - are a much better place to be right now. Bonds are interest rate sensitive. When rates begin to rise again, or when there is strong speculation that rates will rise, you will see bond prices being negatively affected. This is not a crash. This is a natural cycle in our marketplace. Hyping a "crash' is wrong because this is something that happens naturally when rates rise. Muni's actually, in our current economic climate, are one of the safer investments. Municipal bonds are backed by the taxing ability of the municipality issuing the bond. They need to pay more interest - they tax more.

Here's a question for you, JPB..... If gold is so great, and the dollar is going to crash, as you suggest, then why do people want you to use your dollars to buy their gold?




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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 11:36 AM
And by the way... Cramer is a douche...




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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 12:32 PM
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And by the way... Cramer is a douche...

+1 That is what made me do a double take when he said buy gold .

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What you are saying makes no financial sense. Why would you not sell right now, as gold is at a high? You sell on a high and buy on a low. You are suggesting that people buy gold on a high, and that is not sound financial advice

Funny, that is what people said when I was paying $15 an ounce for silver and gold was going for $800 an ounce? I just chose to buy silver over the gold. Silver is now over $40 an ounce. If I had listened to the "experts" I would still own my home, but really I would just own the debt, and I would have LOST all of my equity as well. I would have been trapped like almost half of America that is now upside down on their home loans or have lost all of their equity.

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If gold is so great, and the dollar is going to crash, as you suggest, then why do people want you to use your dollars to buy their gold?

For now, gold is priced in dollars. That will change. Gold is going up because the dollar is going down in value? Can you not see the inflation in energy and food prices? The dollar is already tanking and when hyperinflation kicks in, the dollar is done, and with it America. You can't print your way out of debt, it simply doesn't work. It doesn't surprise me that the market is going up, it is priced in dollars? The only problem with the market, is that when the dollar crashes, you won't be getting anything for your stocks, bonds, or 401ks. But, your gold and silver will still have value and you will be able to trade it in (gold and silver is money, paper is not) for the new world currency.

I am certainly no expert. Just a simple spa salesman. But, I have been dead on about the housing market and the dollar. Good luck listening to these so called "experts". I am sure these are the same people that told you to get out of the market before the crash? Right? If you continue to play by the old rules of money, you are going to end up BROKE! I don't see gold and silver as an investment, but as an insurance policy against the Fed printing money out of thin air. You better run from the dollar when they anounce QE3 and QE4. The problem with being the world reserve currency is that there are more dollars on the planet than any other currency, and the dollar is backed by NOTHING. When the world decides to dump the dollar, we are fu*ked. All of these dollars will find their way back to America and hyperinflation will ensue.

Just do a little research on Weimar Germany and you will see that we are clearly heading down the same path. What are they doing in DC that makes you think they have this thing under control and have us heading in the right direction? I see nothing.

Two years ago when I said I was going to sell my home and divest out the dollar, people were laughing and bashing me. Who's laughing now? The slow bleeding of America continues and this ponzi scheme called America doesn't have that much longer. I will be on the last life raft off the boat and I am not going down with the ship. They have this thing on a nose dive and it is going to crash. The real question is how long til impact? That would be the million dollar question.

I am going to be 100% debt free by the end of the year and totally mobile. I am feeling pretty damn good about my decisions over the past couple of years. I always say hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Hope alone will get you broke and hungry, no thanks.

The biggest heist in the history of the world is going down right under our noses and nobody seems to care? The Fed is draining the savings of America thru inflation and the devaluation of homes. I wonder what it is going to take for people to finally stand up and say enough is enough?

Belize (or Canada or Australia) might not be such a bad place after all .

One thing is for sure, I have been consistent .

 

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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 01:14 PM
Wrong, wrong, wrong....

BTW... While I really don't have an axe to grind here - as far as you're concerned - and I really don't care where you live - I wouldn't claim to be consistent if you haven't moved to Belize. Everyone read that..

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What you are saying makes no financial sense. Why would you not sell right now, as gold is at a high? You sell on a high and buy on a low. You are suggesting that people buy gold on a high, and that is not sound financial advice
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Funny, that is what people said when I was paying $15 an ounce for silver and gold was going for $800 an ounce? I just chose to buy silver over the gold. Silver is now over $40 an ounce. If I had listened to the "experts" I would still own my home, but really I would just own the debt, and I would have LOST all of my equity as well. I would have been trapped like almost half of America that is now upside down on their home loans or have lost all of their equity.


Regardless of how high it is, the principle still exists - and it existed then - you don't buy on a high. What say you about the nearly 100% R.O.R. on the S&P in the past 24 months? Has gold matched that pace? Has silver? All things move in cycles. I am certainly in agreement that one should have a modicum of commodities in their portfolio, but your boisterous claims regarding precious metals make it sound as if you're preaching to everyone else and encouraging them to put all of their money in gold, and that is wrong.

What you do with your home is your business. You don't own a home, and I do. The funny part about is that you'll still be paying rent in retirement, and I will own my property.

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If gold is so great, and the dollar is going to crash, as you suggest, then why do people want you to use your dollars to buy their gold?

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For now, gold is priced in dollars. That will change. Gold is going up because the dollar is going down in value? Can you not see the inflation in energy and food prices? The dollar is already tanking and when hyperinflation kicks in, the dollar is done, and with it America. You can't print your way out of debt, it simply doesn't work. It doesn't surprise me that the market is going up, it is priced in dollars? The only problem with the market, is that when the dollar crashes, you won't be getting anything for your stocks, bonds, or 401ks. But, your gold and silver will still have value and you will be able to trade it in (gold and silver is money, paper is not) for the new world currency.


Question for you... Before, and ever since, the US completely decoupled the dollar from gold (1973), the United States had, and still has, the largest economy in the world - irrespective of the value of gold. The dollar has gone up and down, as has gold. We had some serious inflationary times over the last 40 years, but we're still here, we've prospered as a nation and are still valued as the largest economy. Why is that?

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I am certainly no expert. Just a simple spa salesman. But, I have been dead on about the housing market and the dollar.


No. You have either guessed well, or just listened to Glenn Beck.

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Good luck listening to these so called "experts". I am sure these are the same people that told you to get out of the market before the crash? Right?


Actually, genius, I AM one of these "so-called experts," and yes, I did get my portfolio and those of my clients out of the market before the crash.

Any time you try to time an investment, as you are doing with gold, you will lose in the end. Studies show that those who attempt to time the stock market also ultimately lose. The best practice is to determine your tolerance for risk, and rebalance appropriately along the way -- as a reaction to what the markets have already done. For example, in 2006 and 2007, we (my colleagues and I) suggested that clients pay attention to the unprecedented stretch of growth from Q1, 2003 up to that point (2006 and 2007). If you look at the history of the market, one thing is for sure - you will have ups and you will have downs. There have been approximately 15 bear markets going back to 1945, and if one thing is for sure, they will continue to happen. Since we see them every 5 or 6 years or so, prudence would dictate that you take your growth off the table and place it in safe and secure positions. This obviously makes it easier on the tummy when the market does go back down again, but also creates liquidity to re-insert back in the market when, you guessed it, you once again rebalance as a reaction to what the market has done, and buy. My clients did okay, and so did I.

Following this logic, and the sound, general principles of investing - you should be selling, and not buying.

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If you continue to play by the old rules of money, you are going to end up BROKE! I don't see gold and silver as an investment, but as an insurance policy against the Fed printing money out of thin air. You better run from the dollar when they anounce QE3 and QE4. The problem with being the world reserve currency is that there are more dollars on the planet than any other currency, and the dollar is backed by NOTHING. When the world decides to dump the dollar, we are fu*ked. All of these dollars will find their way back to America and hyperinflation will ensue.


The world can't afford to do away with the dollar, Einstein. The world can't afford to do without the US economy. We will get wide margins of leniency from other countries when it comes to our economic policies.

You're wrong about another thing... You state the dollar is backed by nothing, but it actually is. It's backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government. While our current elected officials and their recent predecessors have shown some poor judgement regarding fiscal policy, our nation is still the biggest economy in the world. If the dollar tanks, so does everyone else.

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Just do a little research on Weimar Germany and you will see that we are clearly heading down the same path. What are they doing in DC that makes you think they have this thing under control and have us heading in the right direction? I see nothing.



Actually, I see a group of people in our Government who are crying and pleading for spending cuts. I think they are aware of the problem.

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Two years ago when I said I was going to sell my home and divest out the dollar, people were laughing and bashing me. Who's laughing now?


Me.

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The slow bleeding of America continues and this ponzi scheme called America doesn't have that much longer. I will be on the last life raft off the boat and I am not going down with the ship. They have this thing on a nose dive and it is going to crash. The real question is how long til impact? That would be the million dollar question.


Okay, Noah. Don't you mean "the million ounce question?"

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I am going to be 100% debt free by the end of the year and totally mobile. I am feeling pretty damn good about my decisions over the past couple of years. I always say hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Hope alone will get you broke and hungry, no thanks.


Are you going to be like some roaming gypsy? It's not too hard to be debt-free when you don't own a home.

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The biggest heist in the history of the world is going down right under our noses and nobody seems to care? The Fed is draining the savings of America thru inflation and the devaluation of homes. I wonder what it is going to take for people to finally stand up and say enough is enough?

Belize (or Canada or Australia) might not be such a bad place after all .

One thing is for sure, I have been consistent .




Blah blah blah.. Good luck with all that there....




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Two years ago when I said I was going to sell my home and divest out the dollar, people were laughing and bashing me. Who's laughing now?
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Me x2 on the laughing part. My home is doing just fine and I love it and the tax advantage.



 

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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 02:57 PM
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I am certainly no expert. Just a simple spa salesman
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What you are saying makes no financial sense. Why would you not sell right now, as gold is at a high? You sell on a high and buy on a low. You are suggesting that people buy gold on a high, and that is not sound financial advice.
Two statements made by two different individuals in this thread that stood out for me as being absolutely true.
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I am going to be 100% debt free by the end of the year and totally mobile. I am feeling pretty damn good about my decisions over the past couple of years.
Me too. Plus I own my home so I have the freedom of being mobile or staying put and I'm not paying someone else for that luxury (rent-free, payment-free). And my investment portfolio continues to make money without being dependent on a solo investment strategy. Glad I didn't follow your expert advice 2 years ago and walk away from my home or my investments when you began offering your ideas for sound financial management (you have a habit of speaking in generalizations and your 'advice', while passionate, is often - well ... nonsense).

And thanks, Mike, for your input in this thread. Appreciated.

 

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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 03:22 PM
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I will be on the last life raft off the boat and I am not going down with the ship.


It might sink with the weight of all that silver................

 

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now that is funny!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 4/3/2011 at 06:48 PM
Did you all know that Sun Trust bank sold off 85.5 Million in Municipal Bonds in the last year?

5th and 3rd bank sold off 45.4 million in their municipal bonds.

HSBC sold off 59 Million in municipal bonds

Bank of America sold of 2.43 BILLION with a B in municipal bonds.

It was 2008 when there were 8.2 Million bonds in default, what is coming within the next 6-12 months will devastate 44 states in this country and require a federal bailout. Where do ya think the feds will get the money to do that? Taxes.

Are the banks ruthless enough to save their own skin and watch their customer base lose half their retirement portfolios and lifetime savings and investments? Yes they are.

Look at what one bank did to this Grandmother,whose husband died, but because she was not on the mortgage and he did not have a formal will, they would not accepts payments from her, so she was in default and they sent the SWAT team to remove her from the house. The worst part is she was willing to and able to make the payments.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/video-this-is-not-ameri ca

What do you think will happen when 44 states are effected?

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation.

In a National Crisis or financial emergency, the govt. will just take over everything, they already gave themselves the Executive Orders enabling them to do just that.

 

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What say you about the nearly 100% R.O.R. on the S&P in the past 24 months? Has gold matched that pace? Has silver?

I bought silver at $17 an ounce, it is now at $43 an ounce. Gold was at $800 an ounce and now it is trading at $1485. Of course, as everyone knows, I purchased silver, not gold.

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your boisterous claims regarding precious metals make it sound as if you're preaching to everyone else and encouraging them to put all of their money in gold, and that is wrong.

Of course I have never said that. But I do agree with you, that you should not put all of your eggs in one basket. On the other hand, I don't believe in the theory of diversification. Robert Kiosaki calls that diworsification.
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You don't own a home, and I do. The funny part about is that you'll still be paying rent in retirement, and I will own my property.

Of course every real estate market in the United Sates lost value last year. Don't they tell people to lease a depreciating liability, which is what your home now is? You see, I lost nothing on my home this year, wherre you did. Unless of course you live in DC, the only housing market in US to go up in value, not too shocking there. I am not saying don't own your home, I am saying don't own the DEBT. If you do own your home outright, you and lola are clearly in the minority in the United States.
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You have either guessed well, or just listened to Glenn Beck.

Beck is a shill for the machine and has never recommended silver, only gold. On top of that, he has never recommended that people sell their homes and get out from under their mortgages. I would rather be lucky than good anyday, in this case, it was both.
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Actually, genius, I AM one of these "so-called experts," and yes, I did get my portfolio and those of my clients out of the market before the crash.

I knew that. As for advising your clients to get out before the market crashed, well, then you were waaaaay ahead of the curve. I am not doubting that you did that, but most advisors were not getting people out before the crash. I think Obama called it getting "shellacked". Most Americans 40ks have not recovered from the crash. I know you don't want to give advice for free, but, if you could PM me the next time the market is going crash, it would be much appreciated.
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The world can't afford to do away with the dollar, Einstein. The world can't afford to do without the US economy. We will get wide margins of leniency from other countries when it comes to our economic policies.

I am sure the Romans thought the same thing, that is pure arrogance.
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Any time you try to time an investment, as you are doing with gold, you will lose in the end.

That is why I have already cashed out my inital investment. I have nothing into the silver I am currently holding. Even if it goes back to $1 an ounce, I am ok with that. I do believe that the fed is going to raise rates and gold and silver will drop dramatically. People will get hammered if they sell when t drops. I will be sielling off soon and plan on jumping right back in when they tank. Just look at the way gold and silver tanked when Brazil raised its rates earlier this year and you can just imagine what willl happen when the fed raises its rates.
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Actually, I see a group of people in our Government who are crying and pleading for spending cuts. I think they are aware of the problem.

Really? Spending cuts? But they are still going to raise the debt ceiling and increase the deficit by trillions of dollars. Some cuts, like a pebble in the ocean. They are not serious about getting this under control. Don't worry though, everything is going as planned.
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You state the dollar is backed by nothing, but it actually is. It's backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government

You mean the same US government that is bankrupt? The one that has trillions of dollars of debt. The same USA that has more debt than assets as a country? That faith? Good luck with that.
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Are you going to be like some roaming gypsy? It's not too hard to be debt-free when you don't own a home.

Really? I wonder what percentage of Americans own their cars, have no credit card debt, and have no loans to pay back?

I know for a fact that many wish they had the balls to sell their home when I did. Most Americans don't own their homes, the bank does. They own the debt. Now, over 25% of all mortgages are underwater and most have seen their equity dry up. Americans have lost 23% of their savings in the last two years, on the positive side, the billionaires have increased their assets by 25%.

Are you suggesting I should have kept my $250,000 mortgage and lost all my equity and be trapped in a depreciating liability? Surely even you can see that what I did was the right thing to do for me. Unless of course you live with the illusion that the housing industry is going to make some kind of miracle comeback anytime soon. Now I rent. I pay my rent with depreciating dollars. My landlord owns the depreciating liablity and I don't pay for upkeep and repairs. The American dream of home ownership is dead. Of course, the final shoe on this matter has not dropped yet, wait for it, and you will get crushed. They want it all, and they are going to get it.
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Following this logic, and the sound, general principles of investing

Are these the same sound principles that people used when buying preferred stock in GM?

Save for the future, have a mortgage, lease your cars, have a 401k ... no thanks.





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