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  posted on 3/17/2011 at 11:09 PM
Lots of guests tonight.

3/17/11 Beacon Theatre, NYC

Set 1
You Don't Love Me
Midnight Rider
Who To Believe
Woman Across The River
Old Before My Time
River's Gonna Rise
Kind Of Bird
Down Along The Cove - with Donald Fagen on piano, melodica and vocals
Shakedown Street - with Donald Fagen piano & vocals and Lincoln Schleifer on bass

Set 2
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
Statesboro Blues
Desdemona
Born Under A Bad Sign - with Chad Smith - drums, Bobby Allende - persussion, Brad Whitford - guitar
The Same Thing - with Chad Smith - drums, Bobby Allende - percussion, Brad Whitford - guitar
No One To Run With>
Drums>
No One To Run With
Encore Break
Southbound with Leo Nocentelli - guitar, Lincoln Schleifer - bass, Brad Whitford - guitar; No Derek Trucks


 
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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 07:23 AM
As in Chad Smith from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers? Interesting, very interesting. I have to say, I love that the ABB welcome guests from "all walks of music." He's a guest I would have never thought would be on stage with the ABB.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 07:29 AM
I'm a little suprised by that too, I met Chad last year at the NAMM show in LA and had the pleasure of hanging out with him a bit....he's a really really nice and genuine guy and a very underrated drummer....I don't have Moogis but I bet he did a great job.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 07:48 AM
Love the guests from last night, the two complains I have are:
1) how can't you have Leo Nocentelli come out during Shakedown Street? The funkiest guitar player in the house not joining in on the funkiest tune!? It would have been amazing!
2) How did they Get Along without Kid Charlemagne????

I still have thoughts of how awesome that song would have sounded last night

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 09:29 AM
Kind of Bird? interesting.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 10:26 AM
I did the one night Moogis to see Fagen sit in with the band. He seemed to be having a good time. Cool choice with Down Along the Cove. Shakedown was just ok. Super cool to see Fagen with the boys. Kid Charlemagne would probably have taken a bit more than a quick run-through at soundcheck for the band to be able to pull it off that night. Lots of twists and turns in that song, too many parts to learn for a one-off number with a guest.

Brad Whitford did a great job. He's a great blues player. Chad Smith did mighty fine as well. Same Thing was one of my big highlights of the night.

My observations regarding the encore, Derek was smart to get out of there. I love Leo and I love The Meters, but anytime I've ever seen Leo Nocentelli on stage, its been the Leo Nocentelli shred show. Last night was no exception. He stepped on Derek's first solo, then took a LONG-ASS solo later on. If Warren wouldn't have reigned him in, he would have been up there shredding for another 10 minutes. Just my opinion, but I could have done without Leo last night.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 11:21 AM
What the... No Iriih eyes or Danny boy?????

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 11:26 AM
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What the... No Iriih eyes or Danny boy?????


LOL!!!

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 12:28 PM
Leo Nocentelli. Worst guest.

I've seen a lot of ABB shows and Greg, Warren and Derek looked annoyed at Leo. All he wanted to do was show off. and it wasn't even that good.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 05:24 PM
Leo is one of my favorite guitarists of all time (mainly for his songwriting and hooks), but I have always wondered when and why he turned into Vernon Reid of Living Colour. Listen to his chops in the 70's (Ain't No Use from Live on the Queen Mary in particular) and compare it with anything as of late and you probably wouldn't even think it was the same guy. I saw him for the first time back in '99 at Levon Helm's club on Decatur St. in NOLA. I had no clue then that he was capable of shredding like that, and more importantly, why would he want to play in such a one dimensional manner. Has anyone ever read an interview with him in which he was asked what caused the transformation in his lead playing? Wish he would return to his days of playing with some soul.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 06:09 PM
God knows, Dean, but it's a good question. Basied on my experience seeing Meters shows in the late 80s/early 90s, I think the change happened around 91-92. I remember my friends and I looking at each other when Leo would go off like that, with a look on our faces that said "What is he thinking?" Art and George would give Leo the same look. Honestly, I think Leo's rock star guitar god diva act was the main reason he and the Meters split.

Dean and I actually met at a Funky Meters concert at Tipitina's during Jazz Fest in 2004, so both of us are true believers in New Orleans funk. However, I agree that Leo's playing of late has more in common with Yngwie Malmsteen than it does to anything funky. He went from one of the most tasteful, song-oriented guitarists ever to the opposite end of the spectrum.

 
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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 06:13 PM
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God knows, Dean, but it's a good question. Basied on my experience seeing Meters shows in the late 80s/early 90s, I think the change happened around 91-92. I remember my friends and I looking at each other when Leo would go off like that, with a look on our faces that said "What is he thinking?" Art and George would give Leo the same look. Honestly, I think Leo's rock star guitar god diva act was the main reason he and the Meters split.

Dean and I actually met at a Funky Meters concert at Tipitina's during Jazz Fest in 2004, so both of us are true believers in New Orleans funk. However, I agree that Leo's playing of late has more in common with Yngwie Malmsteen than it does to anything funky. He went from one of the most tasteful, song-oriented guitarists ever to the opposite end of the spectrum.


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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 06:33 PM
Rob, I'm surprised on your take of Leo. I do agree that in the past 10 years or so, there have been some over the top and maybe even annoying showings by him. His chops can be repetitive and you can see his limits. With all that said, I can probably say the same about many other guitar players, include some we love. I know you're a huge Stoltz fan and they are so opposite in approach playing the same songs. I think both guitarists are great. I thought Leo could be a one trick pony, but over the past few years I've seen him sit in with other acts and adapt quite well. Southbound was not a good selection for him, but I thought he played well and approached it to adapt to ABB style. Yeah, he'll hog the spotlight, but he played with command last night. I'd love to see him again w/ABB doing what he does best.

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 07:08 PM
Right back at you, Rich

Seth, I never said Leo doesn't play with command. If anything, he plays with too much command, insisting on "hogging the spotlight" as you quite accurately put it. He used to be a team player on one of the great musical "teams" of all time, but lately, it's all about him.

This is a recent Jambands.com article about Leo that confirmed this feeling. You will see my comment at the bottom, it about sums up what I feel on this subject.

http://www.jambands.com/features/2011/01/25/leo-nocentelli-and-that-origina l-spark

 
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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 10:45 PM
Zakk Wyldde would have been more subdued.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 10:57 PM
Rob and Rich...what up brothers! Hope all is well. Seems we're all on the same wavelength today. Rob, I think it's time you line up an interview with Leo for a future article in HTN and ask him our burning question...WTF happened to your soloing? What is really going on inside your head right before and during your solos? If you can interview him in person, play him back some of his stuff from 30 years ago, then something more recent and ask him to describe how he feels his approach to soloing has changed over time. I would love to hear an articulate response.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2011 at 11:25 PM
I agree with Rob and Dean. I've seen Leo a few times in the last few years. Unless the chemistry is just right, Leo gives very little regard to what's going on around him, and as a result, what he does these days is much less musical to my ears. I saw one of the Meters reunion shows a few years back, and it was very disappointing. Leo can create alot of tension on a stage. And I hate it when he opens his mouth to talk about the Meters.

Every once and awhile, he can still amaze and surprise. I saw a NOLA Jazzfest show at Howlin Wolf where Leo played with Stanton Moore and Rich Vogel from Galactic, and Nick Daniels from Dumpstaphunk, and it had some great moments. Stanton and Leo seem to work very well together.

 

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