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  posted on 3/11/2011 at 10:52 PM


I love this guitar.

[Edited on 3/12/2011 by nlitndrog]

 

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  posted on 3/12/2011 at 01:50 PM
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I love this guitar.

[Edited on 3/12/2011 by nlitndrog]


Yeah baby...... Nice axe

 

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  posted on 3/12/2011 at 06:09 PM
Got one just like it nlitnone. Why didja muck it up with that sticker?

 

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  posted on 3/12/2011 at 06:13 PM
Actually mine is a 1930 Duolian. Your's is a reproduction? I just looked 'em up. Lord they cost as much as an original.

 

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  posted on 3/12/2011 at 07:36 PM
I just noticed that the one Duane is playing is a paddle head...I though most national 12 fret models were slot heads

 

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  posted on 3/13/2011 at 08:14 PM
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Why didja muck it up with that sticker?


Don't worry. :-) It's not a sticker. It's a refrigerator magnet--serves as my removable pick guard when I'm playing with steel fingerpicks (as I usually do). Keeps me from mucking up the finish with scratches!

 

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  posted on 3/14/2011 at 12:33 PM
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Don't worry. :-) It's not a sticker. It's a refrigerator magnet--serves as my removable pick guard when I'm playing with steel fingerpicks (as I usually do). Keeps me from mucking up the finish with scratches!


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  posted on 3/14/2011 at 05:16 PM
There was a great article with Sam Bush and Tim O'Brien where Bush added a refrigerator magnet to an old National metal-bodied mandolin. It's actually a nice touch and I like your nod to functionalism!
 

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  posted on 3/15/2011 at 10:27 AM
i got one too, and love it...
i have the black rust Duolian reissue, same
headstock...just under 2k, not bad..
i checked out a few 1930's originals and they
were pretty beat up, so i went for a brand new one...

 

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  posted on 3/16/2011 at 11:10 PM
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i got one too, and love it...
i have the black rust Duolian reissue, same
headstock...just under 2k, not bad..
i checked out a few 1930's originals and they
were pretty beat up, so i went for a brand new one...


Exact same thing here. Mine, too, is the Black Rust finish (hard to tell from the photo above due to the lighting). The total price of the new National comes out less by comparison once you factor in the added cost of a neck reset, etc., to an old Duolian. Plus the new one is under warranty.

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I just noticed that the one Duane is playing is a paddle head...I though most national 12 fret models were slot heads.


The Duolians had 12-fret necks from 1931-34. From 1935-40, they were 14-fret necks.

I think the solid-head Duolians appeared around 1936.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2011 at 07:15 PM
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I just noticed that the one Duane is playing is a paddle head...I though most national 12 fret models were slot heads
The Duane picture is him backstage playing John Hammond's National guitar. I am sure it is a 14 fret model. John is beside him in the full picture with a dreadnaught acoustic.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2011 at 07:24 PM
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I love this guitar.

[Edited on 3/12/2011 by nlitndrog]


Man, I love that guitar. It's sweet. That's the last axe I need to have all I'll ever need. Where did you find it, if I may be respectfully inquisitive?

 

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  posted on 3/20/2011 at 06:55 PM
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Don't worry. :-) It's not a sticker. It's a refrigerator magnet--serves as my removable pick guard when I'm playing with steel fingerpicks (as I usually do). Keeps me from mucking up the finish with scratches!
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  posted on 3/23/2011 at 04:23 PM
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Man, I love that guitar. It's sweet. That's the last axe I need to have all I'll ever need. Where did you find it, if I may be respectfully inquisitive?


Ordered it on the web from Artisan Guitars in Franklin, TN (just outside of Nashville):

http://artisanguitars.com/

I think they're one of the largest, if not the largest, National Resophonic dealers around. My experience in dealing with them was a good one. Thumbs up.

 

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Man, I love that guitar. It's sweet. That's the last axe I need to have all I'll ever need. Where did you find it, if I may be respectfully inquisitive?


Ordered it on the web from Artisan Guitars in Franklin, TN (just outside of Nashville):

http://artisanguitars.com/

I think they're one of the largest, if not the largest, National Resophonic dealers around. My experience in dealing with them was a good one. Thumbs up.


Thanks for the info bro, I got a birthday coming up .Wifey wants to know what I want

 

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  posted on 3/29/2011 at 06:18 PM
Here's a new one over at Daves...14 fret Paddle head like the one Duane's playing....I really like the look of the slot head....wished someone made a slothead 14 fret resonator



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Goldtop, is your axe, and she is beautiful btw, heavy? And is the neck a wide fat?

 

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Goldtop, is your axe, and she is beautiful btw, heavy? And is the neck a wide fat?


I don't have a national I do have a early 80's metal dobro with the hawaiian sand blasting similar to this model...or are you talking about the redtop over in the "share your axe thread"....that one has a nice size neck but not a baseball bat and it's chambered so it pretty light I'd say 7.5 LBS

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I don't have a national I do have a early 80's metal dobro with the hawaiian sand blasting similar to this model...or are you talking about the redtop over in the "share your axe thread"....that one has a nice size neck but not a baseball bat and it's chambered so it pretty light I'd say 7.5 LBS

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I was looking at this one...the neck kinda looks like a PRS wide fat on my Mc Carty, which is acceptable. 7.5 lbs. isnt bad. I picked up one metal dobro not long ago and it almost pulled me over, it was well over 7.5 lbs. Appreciate the info, I'm gonna find me a nice dobro if I have to turn the moon into the local pond.

 

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  posted on 3/30/2011 at 12:26 PM
[qupte]....wished someone made a slothead 14 fret resonator


National does make 14-fret single cones with slot heads:

http://www.nationalguitars.com/instruments/national_nrpb14/national_nrpb14. html

http://www.nationalguitars.com/instruments/national_nrp14/national_nrp14.ht ml

http://www.nationalguitars.com/instruments/national_nrpsteel14/national_nrp steel14.html


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  posted on 4/19/2011 at 04:04 PM
On a somewhat related note:

The Wild & Wonderful World of Gibson: The Mystery of the 7-String Resophonic


These days, Gibson handcrafts the finest resonator guitars in the world, but it wasn’t until 1994 that Gibson Guitar Corp. acquired the Dobro trademark and welcomed the historic company into the Gibson family of brands. So, prior to 1994, did Gibson ever build a Dobro-style guitar? And has there ever been a resonator guitar with the Gibson logo across its headstock? Yes and yes, though we don’t know the whereabouts of the instrument today, and we can’t be 100 percent certain that it’s an authentic Gibson. However, vintage guitar aficionado George Gruhn would bet the farm that the 7-string resonator guitar that he once had in his Nashville, Tennessee shop was an original, one-of-a-kind Gibson built sometime around 1950.

The majority of the information in our story comes from Gruhn’s 1983 Rare Bird column for Guitar Player magazine. In the March issue that year, Gruhn wrote compellingly of a “Mystery Resophonic,” a Gibson-branded Dobro-style guitar with four screen-covered sound holes and seven strings. Configured like a Hawaiian-style guitar with a square neck and inlaid fret markers, this lovely instrument was crafted of mahogany back, sides, and neck with a spruce top, rosewood fingerboard, and black and white binding. Its tailpiece was stamped with the words “Radio Tone” and with lightning bolts. Though Gruhn dated the guitar itself to the 1950s, he estimated the Dobro resonator and cover plate to be mid-to-late-1930s vintage. It’s worth noting that at this time, Gibson was owned by Chicago Musical Instruments (CMI), which also owned Valco, the maker of Dobros.

Prior to receiving this instrument, Gruhn had neither seen nor heard of another Gibson resonator guitar and after sending photos to Gibson (then still located in Kalamazoo, Michigan) he was told that the company had no record of making such an instrument and couldn’t verify its authenticity.

Nevertheless, Gruhn made it a personal mission to sleuth out the origin of this highly unusual instrument, ruling out various theories one by one. He couldn’t assume that the resophonic was just a one-off custom Gibson instrument because most all of the company’s custom jobs didn’t stray too far from catalog specifications. But this one, which Gruhn called “radically unusual”, certainly did. So he set out to prove his theory that this was an original Gibson.

First, he closely examined the way the Dobro was crafted, inside and out. “Every maker has his own style of workmanship just as distinctive and personalized as a handwritten signature,” wrote Gruhn. “In view of the tremendous amount of hand labor involved in the construction and design of a guitar or any other stringed instrument, I think it is reasonable to say that an instrument contains some element of the ‘soul’ of the maker, and may be a better example of his signature than any scrawl on a piece of paper. Even machine work on an instrument can be a distinctive characteristic since no two companies used exactly the same type of tooling at every stage of the process.”

Well-schooled on Gibson’s manufacturing process during the early 1950s, Gruhn concluded that “all elements of [the resophonic’s] workmanship appear to be consistent with Gibson factory work of the period between 1948 and 1952. All materials, binding, inlay, finish, and tooling appear to be fully original.” It would be impossible to commit such a convincing forgery as would be needed to construct this guitar because, Gruhn said, “tooling up and producing an exact replica could cost millions of dollars.”

“We can only speculate whether this instrument was intended to fill one custom order or was an experimental prototype for a model that never went into production,” said Gruhn. “While I do not claim to be infallible, if this instrument is not original it would be the best hoax I have ever encountered. If indeed it is a hoax, then it must have been made by a luthier of surpassing skill, with lots of time on his hands, access to original Gibson and Dobro components, plenty of money, no profit motivation, and possibly – a great sense of humor.”

Since Gruhn published his account of the guitar, it has gone down in guitar history. Tom Wheeler included a photo and description of the resonator guitar within the pages of his hallowed American Guitars, in which Gruhn comments, “Gibson has no record of this guitar, but it’s clearly original.”

In the decades that have elapsed since Gruhn wrote his Rare Bird column, the mystery surrounding this instrument has only deepened. In fact, at this point – 28 years removed from having written the Guitar Player article – Gruhn has only a vague memory of the Dobro at all.

“Unfortunately I have no idea where this guitar is now nor do I have any further information regarding it,” Gruhn said. “We had this guitar over 25 years ago. I don’t remember where I got it or who bought it from us.”



If you know the whereabouts of this one-of-a-kind Gibson, please let us know!


http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/resophonic-0321-2011/

 

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