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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 07:44 PM
http://www.jambands.com/features/2011/03/07/butch-trucks-talks-zappa-moogis -the-fillmore-and-the-beacon




[Edited on 3/8/2011 by fender31]

 
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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 07:55 PM
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I’m sure it was the same people but, you know, you can’t smoke at United Palace. Anything. If they see any kind of smoke wafting from anywhere in that place you get kicked out. And you’ve been to the Beacon enough to know you can smoke there. You have the smell of reefer all night long. The floors are all sticky with beer and everything else. And there’s no drinking at United Palace. It’s just, it’s much looser at the Beacon.


Well....I don't even know what to say about this statement. Is he nuts???? I'm no Butch basher. I actually love to hear the crazy stuff that he says, but this is just not true in any way. Anything was fair game at UP. I've not seen so much weed in NYC since the pre-MSG Beacon days. You could have been smoking crack in the aisles and the ushers would have turned the other way. UP also allowed beer in the seats.

The Beacon is, on the other hand, has become pretty tight on the smoking situation. Uncle Butch, smoking is NOT allowed at The Beacon. It can be done, but proceed with extreme caution.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 07:55 PM
Boy, that interview is going to go over well! Well at least it will put to rest what some people think is happening on the 12th. lol
 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 07:59 PM
Once again butch bashes Mr.Betts...maybe the fax should have been sent his way instead and gives the ABB fans no hope of ever hearing new music from them.

[Edited on 3/8/2011 by fender31]

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 08:03 PM
I have never gotten involved in any Dickey debates and won't now. But I can't take anything from those comments other than that he is downright trying to humiliate Dickey.
 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 08:08 PM
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Once again butch bashes Mr.Betts...maybe the fax should have been sent his way instead and gives the ABB fans no hope of ever hearing new music from them.

[Edited on 3/8/2011 by fender31]

The band has a lot more liberty to dig into its canon during its Beacon run. Can you walk us through how your setlists are composed at this point and how much you try to balance the standards with deeper cuts and covers?

BT: It’s one of the things—when Dickey was around, we just couldn’t do that. Dickey couldn’t remember more than one set at a time. For the first few years after ’89 we went out and every night was the same set. It was every night, the same damn set, and a lot of people go to more than one show. And then finally we got him to do two different sets or three sets. And then it became a game with the people that were coming to more than one show—counting how many different sets we were doing so that they could buy tickets on nights where we’d be playing another set then the one they had already seen. Then you’d hear bitching or complaining. Dickey just couldn’t remember more than a few songs at one time. Even a song that he wrote, that he’d been playing for 35 years—unless he played it in the last few days—he couldn’t remember it. But with this band, these guys, we could get on stage tomorrow with no rehearsal and play every damn song we’ve played for the past several years and not make a mistake. We can remember the songs. So it really opens things up.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 08:38 PM
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I’m sure it was the same people but, you know, you can’t smoke at United Palace. Anything. If they see any kind of smoke wafting from anywhere in that place you get kicked out. And you’ve been to the Beacon enough to know you can smoke there. You have the smell of reefer all night long. The floors are all sticky with beer and everything else. And there’s no drinking at United Palace. It’s just, it’s much looser at the Beacon.


Well....I don't even know what to say about this statement. Is he nuts???? I'm no Butch basher. I actually love to hear the crazy stuff that he says, but this is just not true in any way. Anything was fair game at UP. I've not seen so much weed in NYC since the pre-MSG Beacon days. You could have been smoking crack in the aisles and the ushers would have turned the other way. UP also allowed beer in the seats.

The Beacon is, on the other hand, has become pretty tight on the smoking situation. Uncle Butch, smoking is NOT allowed at The Beacon. It can be done, but proceed with extreme caution.


i found Butch's comments right on. Even with the new regime ive always found the Beacon to be a much looser environment.
the security/ushers at United Palace were like hawks and were not down with the reefer (yeah i know they were just doing their job blah blah)

anyways the Bathroom situation is at least a lil better at the Beacon too

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 08:40 PM
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I’m sure it was the same people but, you know, you can’t smoke at United Palace. Anything. If they see any kind of smoke wafting from anywhere in that place you get kicked out. And you’ve been to the Beacon enough to know you can smoke there. You have the smell of reefer all night long. The floors are all sticky with beer and everything else. And there’s no drinking at United Palace. It’s just, it’s much looser at the Beacon.


Well....I don't even know what to say about this statement. Is he nuts???? I'm no Butch basher. I actually love to hear the crazy stuff that he says, but this is just not true in any way. Anything was fair game at UP. I've not seen so much weed in NYC since the pre-MSG Beacon days. You could have been smoking crack in the aisles and the ushers would have turned the other way. UP also allowed beer in the seats.

The Beacon is, on the other hand, has become pretty tight on the smoking situation. Uncle Butch, smoking is NOT allowed at The Beacon. It can be done, but proceed with extreme caution.


I agree. The staff at UPT were very cool and welcoming, and I had more than a few beers there. Butch should have simply said the location was lacking. That was the only downside to me.

I'm no Betts apologist, but man that was way too harsh. Even if true about not being able to do varied sets, there is no reason to personalize it in this way. Mr Betts wrote so many great ABB songs, probably saved the band after Duane and Berry died, and put the band on the map w/ Ramblin' Man. If you can't say something nice about this man, say nothing.

I was pleased to see that there may be some "special" shows later in the year. Atlanta's Fox is special, so may be....

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 09:06 PM
Butch couldnt resist subtle jabs at Gregg either, with his comments about there being "only one" original on his new album, and him "only selling " 40k records/

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 09:27 PM
Has Butch ever played anything that he has written? He owes everything to Gregg, Duane and Dickey. Hell he's a drummer and failed percussion at FSU.

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 09:43 PM
Well, goodbye to any idears about new songs, etc. Ah well. I guess all I have to look forward to is a killer show!
 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 10:31 PM
Other then the body shots he threw at Dickey I thought it was a good interview.
 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 10:43 PM
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Has Butch ever played anything that he has written? He owes everything to Gregg, Duane and Dickey. Hell he's a drummer and failed percussion at FSU.


I think the highly quotable Noel Gallagher had the right take on it.

Regarding the band Keane, Gallagher opined:
"Traditionally speaking, the three biggest twats in any band are the singer, the keyboardist and the drummer. I don't need to say anything else."

 

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  posted on 3/7/2011 at 11:12 PM
Could Butch be a bigger fu**in' windbag?!...good Lord. He'll ALWAYS be one of my favorite drummers...hell, sometimes I'm more amazed at his abilities at this point in ABB history than anyone(see: Charlotte 10/4/08)...but who made him spokesperson? Let's let someone with some tact, like, say Warren give perspective. The Dickey shots have got to go...it's been too long. Also, if BT doesn't think Brother Betts can smoke Kind of Bird...I think he needs to sign up for that Atlanta '91 dvd vine over in the Vines section. That should refresh his memory.
 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 12:54 AM
Wow. What a bonehead. Why the hell Butch is in charge of flippin' anything concerning this band is beyond me. Basically taking shots at Gregg's new album?? Lame.

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I'm no Betts apologist, but man that was way too harsh. Even if true about not being able to do varied sets, there is no reason to personalize it in this way. Mr Betts wrote so many great ABB songs, probably saved the band after Duane and Berry died, and put the band on the map w/ Ramblin' Man. If you can't say something nice about this man, say nothing.




Dickey has his problems, no doubt. But I posted an article on here from the 1979 Rolling Stone magazine that I have and it is clear that that reunion then was about Dickey making it happen - not Butch. In fact, Butch was the one who vowed to never play with Gregg again.

Then in 1988, Dickey was rolling with his new album Pattern Disruptive and was, once again, at the forefront of putting the ABB back together, especially considering that he already had Warren in his band at the time.

Butch......plays the drums.

Yes, I understand that Dickey liked to play the same sets night after night back in the day, and it is cool that the current lineup can mix it up (except for the lame classic rock covers) at any time and diversify and the guests brought in are VERY COOL. But my eyes have been opened in the last year or so as there are some live recordings from 1994 with Dickey bringing it and Warren in the slide chair that SMOKE an occasional modern day Beacon show or two.

The songs that Dickey has written for the ABB over the years are incredible. Butch plays the drums next to, frankly, a more inventive drummer in Jaimoe. Nothing against Butch, of course, as over the years his solos have given us some sweet chances to take a bathroom break while not missing anything, so that is good.

Past that, I'm hoping to watch some great shows at this year's Beacon run hoping that the rest of the band is motivated and having fun as this group is thankfully SO much more than about BT.

DH

[Edited on 3/8/2011 by DerekFromCincinnati]

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 03:45 AM
You always wonder about the veracity of people's other recollections when they can't recall that LPs have up to 20 mins per side and play at 33.3 rpm!

Seriously, it is hugely disrespectful to say that a musician - any musician - was incapable of playing a song which they had written.

By his own words, Butch names Derek, Warren and Gregg (somewhat generously) as the band's writers. So someone who can't/ doesn't compose is in no positiion to criticise someone who not only writes but wrote some of the songs he is still happy to play - IMOER, Jessica, Southbound.........

And, Butch - having my feet stuck fast to the floor is not one of my Beacon highlights!!!




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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 04:28 AM
Thank you Butch for reminding me yet again why you have ALWAYS been my least favorite brother!!!!
 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 06:31 AM
I hope Gregg has Butch's fax number on speed dial.

It's a shame that the most vocal member of the ABB is this guy. He needs to realize that he represents the entire band when he speaks.

It's amazing that he still finds ways to rip Dickey more than 10 years after he was fired from the band. None of the questions were leading in that direction whatsoever.

 
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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 07:52 AM
Butch, you should shut the hell up about Dickey already.
I was in the lodge for many Beacon shows and just let me say this.
Tickets were cheap and Dickey Betts tore the roof off the joint every time.
That is all.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 08:04 AM
Look, Butch is candid. Would you expect anything less than straight forward answers
from him. The Zappa story was very insightful. Butch also seems to be the most comfortable with stories of the past, as opposed to Gregg, or Jaimoe. I like that he does interviews and shares his memories of the days gone by.

The Dickey fans are not happy about a few statements Butch made. Truth is, from '89 to '99 I saw maybe 16, or so, shows.
Basically the same setlist every time. In '99 I decided I would stop spending my hard
earned money on going to a show with no surprises or spontanious energy. I was frustrated. Don't get me wrong, I saw some great shows during that time. I just
got tired of knowing the setlist. And after seeing the latest video interview with Dickey,
I would say he needs help. The enablers around him do him no good. As much as I
agree with those who support Dickey regarding the need to make any statements about him, maybe it will help him?

The comments on Gregg's wonderful new cd were just facts. There was no hint
of a dig?

Flame on.



 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 08:09 AM
Butch is SUCH a happy guy!!!


























 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 08:13 AM
Last year at the UNITED PALACE they were giving out the left over beer to anybody who was interested in a nightcap. I found the Bowery Ballroom staff who ran the UPT to be incredibly friendly throughout the run.
Butch is correct about what was going on in the early 90's at The Beacon as far as setlists go. He should keep comments like these to himself or do it in such a way where he takes equal blame along with the rest of the band for the lack of originality in the setlists during those pre 97' Beacon runs. Warren and Allen leaving the band did create a different sense of urgency within the band. Jack was a great addition and a terrific foil for Dickey. The setlists became more imaginative even though there was no new material written after Warren left.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 09:08 AM
This is what I posted on the comment section below the interview on Jambands.com:

Butch will always be one of my favorite drummers and I respect the man for what he’s done and still doing. But damn, he just cannot get through an interview, now more than 10 years on, without dissing Dickey in some way, downplaying his role, etc. It’s pretty absurd in my opinion. Bottom line is as profound as the Brothers are singularly and as a group, they absolutely never would have been what they were/are if not for Dickey…in any era. Thanks Brothers and thanks Dickey. And thanks for the fine interview.

and in response to an idiotic comment by someone else:

Thanks 74Jer for taking us back to reality after the post by 1965. You’re right on. 1965’s post unfortunately is utter nonsense. As Derek said, Dickey, in many more moments than not, was on a level very few ever got to – so ethereal. Not that Dickey’s playing needs to be defended in the slightest, but as fantastical garbage is being spewed I may mention a couple things. Duane, as anyone who knows the actual history knows, among many other things, said to Dickey that “hey, this was supposed to be my band, you’re sure giving me a hard f—ing way to go”, complimenting his playing. Butch, in an interview at the tail end of 1999, right before they fired him, stated emphatically that Dickey was playing the best he had in years. Obviously there were other issues between them, as everyone knows. Nevertheless, as much as I love Betts, I still love the Allmans as they continue to make unbelievable music. As original as they are, they’d be the first to tell you they owe an enormous debt to Dickey and Duane.
By the way, anyone that saw the band in the 90s knows that an average night showed Dickey’s wonderful playing reaching dizzying heights, alongside Haynes, Pearson and Trucks. I believe his playing from 94 to 98, in particluar, was his best ever.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 09:29 AM
re: moogis ...

I'm not sure this is going to fly, especially after "he dies"

I look at at what Widespread Panic is doing next to moogis and it just can't be compared

WSP recently had live broadcasts of some shows, and were able to turn around cd's and high quality dvd's
in a matter of days

Be interesting to see if moogis ever takes off outside of the ABB, but prices doubled in 2 years and
he keeps mentioning getting more subscribers. Would be interesting to know how many subscribers
in total he really needs.

It's nice that there will be a pay per show, although the $60 for the AFE anniversary show
better have a dvd release for the price difference from $25

this looks to be the last full on subscription for moogis for me, as next year it will be pushing $300 and
will be hard to justify spending that, regardless of how many shows it is that I can see vs not seeing

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 10:02 AM
As someone else said, PLAY THE DRUMS BUTCH !!! No need to bad mouth Dickey at every turn even if I agree that for the music we've been getting the last 10 years, it was the right choice.

Moogis does have potential to be a revolutionary concept though. It's such a great idea. Imagine sitting at home, nothing on TV and saying, "who's playing a Tipitina's in NOLA tonight " and then logging in and seeing the Radiators or whoever in HD and great sound. It's a brilliant concept. I just wonder who long it will take to actually make money and if it can be sustained until then.

Sure looking forward to Friday night. The Road ( or Soap opera) goes on forever.

 
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