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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 05:32 PM
"Duane was a hired gun. He was an awesome talent, but he's more known for Derek And The Dominos than his own band"
Quote from Whitlock in a piece in this months' Uncut magazine on the 40th anniversary reissue of Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs. Seems to be a new quote or maybe the magazine is just presenting it as such. Anyway, seems a pretty dubious statement to me!

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 06:47 PM
BW makes himself sound pretty douchey with this comment. Layla was a really great album, but perhaps Whitlock places a bit more importance on it because he was part of it. Funny, your average music fan probably has no idea who Bobby Whitlock is. I wouldn't recognize him if he walked past me on the street.
 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 07:00 PM
Mr. Whitlock also fails to recognize the extensive and intensive following of the ABB fanbase from its earliest formations to present (and its extended families). He should also remember Duane turned down an opportunity to join the Dominoes to stay with "the baddest cats around" (The Allman Brothers Band.)

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 08:01 PM
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"Duane was a hired gun. He was an awesome talent, but he's more known for Derek And The Dominos than his own band"



Be what as it may, that is probably Bobby's perspective on the matter. I do not see it as durogatory towards Duane in any manner whatsoever. Why call him names ? Then make a similar statement regarding his notoriety from your perspective and fail to consider that the same average fan wouldn't know Duane if he was to pass them on the street either.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 08:33 PM
Point taken. No disrespect intended toward Bobby W. I just have, and again this is my opinion only, a strong reverence and loyalty to Duane and the influence his music and personality have had and continue to have on me personally.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 10:32 PM
I thought Bobby Whitlock held Duane in very high esteem. I took the comment more as if Bobby Whitlock was a little incredulous that Duane wasn't more recognized for his impact with the Allman Brothers. I ordered Bobby Whitlock's book yesterday. I'd be happy to share any significant insights when I read it.
 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 10:35 PM
I heard Whitlock's book has rattled more than one cage with some of his comments. I met the man once....that was enough.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 11:02 PM
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"Duane was a hired gun. He was an awesome talent, but he's more known for Derek And The Dominos than his own band"
To that comment, I respond with a hearty, "BULL EFFING SHAT!!"

I think that statement was born from frustration with everyone asking him about Duane and his influence on the D&TD sessions, instead of his own contributions to it. With all due respect to Mr. Whitlock, Duane was gas on fire to the sessions. He sparked creativity among the rest of the Dominos. Things began to happen when he showed up for the sessions.

He must not visit this website much, or he wouldn't make a statement such as that. Duane's spirit looms large over this band, nearly 40 years after his tragic death. D&TD did one album, and it was monumental, but The ABB lived on and still has a steadfast following, and Duane earned his place in the pantheon of rock icons. He deserves all the credit bestowed on him.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 11:32 PM
One last comment....I haven't read the book but I've read some of Whitlock's comments and one, they're not very kind to 'Skydog' fans or the Bramletts and second, no matter what he wrote or says in an interview...for a fact, he and Delaney's wife ran off together with his master tapes and some of his guitars. They ended up in Muscle Shoals and we got drawn into it second hand so I have first hand knowledge of the events. Anything he says to the contrary is revisionist history.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 11:36 PM
That's funny, I thought it was universally acknowledged that Duane doesn't get ENOUGH credit for his work in Derek and the Dominos.

Most people think that is Clapton playing Duane's slide licks on Layla, for example.

If Whitlock thinks the Dominos are a better known band than the Allman Brothers, then with all due respect, he is mistaken. Most people think of Layla as an Eric Clapton album, and whether it's right or wrong, Duane and the rest of the Dominos are footnotes at best.

 
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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 11:42 PM
If Duane Allman was a "hired gun", then Bobby Whitlock was the guy he left bleeding in the dirt before he saddled back up with the rest of the Allman Brothers Band and rode off into the sunset.
 

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  posted on 2/16/2011 at 11:46 PM
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That's funny, I thought it was universally acknowledged that Duane doesn't get ENOUGH credit for his work in Derek and the Dominos.

Most people think that is Clapton playing Duane's slide licks on Layla, for example.

If Whitlock thinks the Dominos are a better known band than the Allman Brothers, then with all due respect, he is mistaken. Most people think of Layla as an Eric Clapton album, and whether it's right or wrong, Duane and the rest of the Dominos are footnotes at best.


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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 07:26 AM
what has he done in the last 20 yrs? not much aside from 1 boring cd
 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 09:39 AM
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If Duane Allman was a "hired gun", then Bobby Whitlock was the guy he left bleeding in the dirt before he saddled back up with the rest of the Allman Brothers Band and rode off into the sunset.


I like it.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 10:08 AM
Once again Big Dave on Bass you've crystalized my thoughts so eloquently .
 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 10:45 AM
i'm reading the book now and i think it's an overall good book with some interesting
details about Derek and Dominos, Delaney and bonnie, clapton and the whole scene at hurtwood's edge..
One part i didn't like was when Bobby commented negatively on duane playing with the
domino's live.....He basically said that Duane would have never fit in playing live with the group and how he couldn't keep up with clapton at the Tampa show...I disagree because even though Duane played on the layla album, i'm sure he didn't practice the songs much when the sessions were over, and the Domino's were on tour and use to playing the songs over and over as a four piece...i went back and listened to a recording of the Tampa show, and yes there were some rough moments but Duane was sitting in and might not have remembered some chord changes or scale patterns that fit the songs
he recorded with the band....It's almost like going to an open blues jam and not having your favorite key called.....that's just my opinion....what do you people think???

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 10:52 AM
Bobby Whitlock to me, was always just a name on the album, never really knew much about him.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 10:58 AM
who cares what Whitlock says--all ya gotta do is listen to Duane play--nothing more need be said...there is still noone who has approached the depth,emotion, & who had the technical skill to deliver the goods like Duane did...Duane was & IS the master of the guitar....
 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 10:58 AM
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Bobby Whitlock to me, was always just a name on the album, never really knew much about him.


To me, he was always "the guy from the Dominos whose voice I have to tolerate."

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 11:01 AM
I look forward to reading this book. I like Bobby, he just has a different perspective on history is all. Bobby is a helluva keys man, but hasn't really done a whole lot in resent history and history is typically written by the victors (Clapton/Duane).....both legendary. You gotta take this kind of thing with a grain of salt. Anyone who discounts Duane's impact and force on the Layla record should probably be put in a straight jacket just as a precautionary measure. As far as the Tampa show goes.....I'd bet my 401k it was lack or rehearsals on Duane's part and who can blame him. I'd rather be playing Don't Want You No More than Bell Bottom Blues too!!! It's all history now and Bobby's making a buck.

Having said that, I'm looking forward to the read.

[Edited on 2/17/2011 by jparadise]

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 11:20 AM
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all ya gotta do is listen to Duane play--nothing more need be said...there is still no one who has approached the depth,emotion, & who had the technical skill to deliver the goods like Duane did...Duane was & IS the master of the guitar....
Well said Effie.
The proof IS in time. 40 years now, and he is still being listened to, discussed, and discovered by not only those of his time, but by those not even born by the time he passed.
I think 50 years from now more people will say "Bobby who?", than "Duane who"?

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 11:31 AM
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To me, he was always "the guy from the Dominos whose voice I have to tolerate."


I couldn't agree more.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 12:01 PM
I will just say if you took a poll of the average Joe and Jose , most people will at least recognize Duane Allman who has been dead for 40 years, most folks do not know who BW is and he's been breathing.

This is not to say BW is not a talent and a great songwriter

To say Duane was not known is BS, another reason I won't be buying Bobby Whitlock's book

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 12:17 PM
Duane known more for 'Layla'? C'mon Bobby, get some sleep and rethink.
There wold be no 'Layla' without Duane and no ABB with out Duane. A fact that many seem to forget.

 

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  posted on 2/17/2011 at 12:26 PM
Slightly off topic but i always wondered what went down between EC and BW. You would think if they were on any kind of good terms BW would have been invited to one of the Crossroads guitar festivals by now.
 
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