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  posted on 2/14/2011 at 03:06 PM
NO, HE WOULDN'T--WOULD HE?: HOUSE SPEAKER'S STATE MAY GET
$450 MILLION EXTRA

By Scott Lilly
Sunday, February 12, 2011

There are two things the leaders of the new majority in the House
of Representatives have made clear since they began to assume the reins
of power three months ago. They would:

1. Cut spending
2. Eliminate earmarks

Those two frequently repeated objectives are being translated into legislation
in a 359-page bill filed on the House floor Friday evening--leglisation that will
be considered by the whole House later this week without the benefit of
hearings or even committee deliberation. As promised, the bill contains a
breathtaking list of program cuts and terminations.

The bill would shred, among other things, the social safety net in hard-pressed
localities across America with reductions in nutrition programs for infants and
mothers. And it would cut federal support to keep destitute families from having
their heat and electricity cut off during one of the coldest winters in recent
memory. Preliminary analysis also indicates that Head Start programs may be
forced to shut down a month early in many communities across the country.
Finally, the bill would deliver a particularly hard blow to struggling local
governments, canceling out billions of dollars in assistance to law enforcement,
support of local schools, and so forth.

But buried deeply in these 359 pages of ugly surprises is a provision that would
mean one community in America would do a lot better than all of the others.
The legislation added an estimated $450 million for a particular bit of defense
spending that the Department of Defense did not ask for and does not want.

The item is a down payment that would obligate the federal government to
future payments that could well be three or four times the increased spending
added to this particular piece of legislation, with a big portion of the funds
flowing to two cities in Ohio--Cincinnati, where Speaker of the House John
Boehner grew up, and Dayton, the largest city in his congressional district.

The money will go to pay the costs to General Electric Co.'s General Electric
Aviation Unit and the British-owned Rolls Royce Group for their development of
an engine for the Joint Strike Fighter aircraft--money that looks, feels and
smells like an earmark.

Should the Department of Defense end up paying the two companies to
develop the engine it is hoped that they will then buy significant numbers
of the aircraft. The problem that the Petagon has with this plan for using
tax dollars is that they already have an engine for the plane--an engine that
was decided on when the contract for the plane was agreed to 10 years ago.

The increased funding added to the new House bill was done in a manner
even more "stealthy" than the plane that the would-be engine hopes to
power. It is believed to be mixed in with much larger spending totals in one
or more of the bill's military research and development accounts. Appropriations
Defense Subcommittee Chairman Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL) conceded to
Reuters on Friday that "the bill that we're going to deal will with next week
has the money in it," referring to the GE-Rolls Royce engine.

The local political senstivity on this issue is so strong that it was repeatedly
rumored that assurances on the second engine were being offfered by competing
candidates during the contest in the House last December to determine
the new chairman of the full appropriations committee. Whether or not
Rep. Boehner can leverage the White House into signing legislation that
contains a major spending increase that neither President Obama nor the
Pentagon favors, the mere existence of the spending program in the House
bill would seem to significantly tarnish the committment of Rep. Boehner
and his colleagues in the House to spending cuts and the end to earmarking.

http://onthehillblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/no-he-wouldntwould-he-house-speak ers.html

[Edited on 2/14/2011 by woodsdweller]

 

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  posted on 2/14/2011 at 03:08 PM
And the beat goes on...

 

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  posted on 2/14/2011 at 03:28 PM
Someone remind me how many jobs bills the Republicans have submitted so far?

 

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Someone remind me how many jobs bills the Republicans have submitted so far?


"The money will go to pay the costs to General Electric Co.'s General Electric
Aviation Unit and the British-owned Rolls Royce Group for their development of
an engine for the Joint Strike Fighter aircraft--money that looks, feels and
smells like an earmark."

Jobs available at GE and Rolls...

 

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Several of the key congressional supporters— Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat, and John Boehner, a Republican, of Ohio—are simply endorsing a program that would bring jobs to their home states.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/07/alternate_engine.html

So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......

 

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Several of the key congressional supporters— Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat, and John Boehner, a Republican, of Ohio—are simply endorsing a program that would bring jobs to their home states.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/07/alternate_engine.html

So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......


No, it doesn't.

What do you think of it? Or are you only interested in the party gotcha?

 

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  posted on 2/14/2011 at 03:46 PM
It does make work, but it does not make us competitive and this kind of spending can be viewed as a waste .

 

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So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......


Shouldn't he be working on that lawsuit regarding the errant olive pit that cracked his tooth?

 

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ALl Congressman will seek to bring bacon to their own states and constituents. It is just the nature of the beast. It's one of the reasons that Congress having too much money to toss around always ends up being wasted. What they should do is appoint a bi-partisan, constantly rotating group of Congressman to oversee each of these items and approve or disapprove based on how much it will actually benefit or not benefit the nation.

 

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So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......


Shouldn't he be working on that lawsuit regarding the errant olive pit that cracked his tooth?


He's already settled that one....

 

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What they should do is appoint a bi-partisan, constantly rotating group of Congressman


Dreamer!

 

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Flashback to December 2010....

"In what's likely to be his last Capitol Hill news conference as minority leader,
House Speaker John Boehner issued a plea to the Senate: "QUIT THE
EARMARKING."

http://politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1210/Boehner_to_Senate_Ditch_the_earm arks.html

 

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Several of the key congressional supporters— Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat, and John Boehner, a Republican, of Ohio—are simply endorsing a program that would bring jobs to their home states.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/07/alternate_engine.html

So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......



Boehner was the one demanding an end to earmarks. I don't recall
Kucinich ever saying "Earmarks must come to an end." (Cue up
er1016 doing a Google search to find out if Kucinich ever opposed
earmarks.... )

 

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quote:
quote:
Several of the key congressional supporters— Dennis Kucinich, a Democrat, and John Boehner, a Republican, of Ohio—are simply endorsing a program that would bring jobs to their home states.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/07/alternate_engine.html

So i guess that just get's Kucinich off the hook......



Boehner was the one demanding an end to earmarks. I don't recall
Kucinich ever saying "Earmarks must come to an end." (Cue up
er1016 doing a Google search to find out if Kucinich ever opposed
earmarks.... )


I have no reason to google anything.....I've made my point. Let me know when there is actually a chance of this getting passed, then I might be concerned. Until then is just another left wing half stiory, from the king himself. HTH



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another left wing half stiory


It's actually spelled "story."

And speaking of "half stories," your "Cut and Grow Democratic Edition" thread
doesn't seem to be getting much of a response at the moment.

 

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another left wing half stiory


It's actually spelled "story."

And speaking of "half stories," your "Cut and Grow Democratic Edition" thread
doesn't seem to be getting much of a response at the moment.


I’ll be damn and all this time I thought the purpose of the WP was to debate different topics. Come to find out the objective is to see who can get the most responses to their thread (according to Woodsdweller) or maybe you equate the number of responses to how popular or clever you are....... either way it certainly explains a lot about you……. You have fun tonite combing the net for your next great post

[Edited on 2/15/2011 by er1016]

 

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What they should do is appoint a bi-partisan, constantly rotating group of Congressman


Dreamer!


But I'm not the only one.

 

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another left wing half stiory


It's actually spelled "story."

And speaking of "half stories," your "Cut and Grow Democratic Edition" thread
doesn't seem to be getting much of a response at the moment.


I’ll be damn and all this time I thought the purpose of the WP was to debate different topics. Come to find out the objective is to see who can get the most responses to their thread (according to Woodsdweller) or maybe you equate the number of responses to how popular or clever you are....... either way it certainly explains a lot about you……. You have fun tonite combing the net for your next great post

[Edited on 2/15/2011 by er1016]


I used to think the same thing.

 

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Or are you only interested in the party gotcha?


It is a woodsdweller thread, isn't it?

 

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Come to find out the objective is to see who can get the most responses to their thread (according to er1016)



There. Fixed it for ya.

 

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Someone remind me how many jobs bills the Republicans have submitted so far?


Jobs???? They have been to busy trying to repeal the health care bill and passing new restrictive abortion legislation to give a crap about the job creation that they campaigned on and promised if they got those Bush tax extensions. We will see if those good paying middle class jobs they promised materialize. Somehow I doubt it considering those tax rates were on the books for ten years and didn't create any good paying middle class jobs. I hope the voters realize this when it comes time to vote these lying politicians out!

 

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Yet another glaring example of the military/industrial/CONGRESSIONAL complex at work. $450 Million additional R & D money for a second engine for yet another fighter plane we don't need! As many of us have said repeatedly, until we address the waste in Defense, Social Security, and Medicare, deficit reduction is nothing but a farce.
 

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until we address the waste in Defense, deficit reduction is nothing but a farce.


Agreed. Too bad Boehner doesn't feel that way.

 

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