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  posted on 2/1/2011 at 06:25 PM
Great tune that i've only come to truly appreciate recently. the version on the Private Sessions broadcast was phenomenal. The album as a whole I thought was disappointing. Anything Goes and the version of Don't Want you no More/ Not my Cross to Bear that finishes the album were the highlights for me. Just Before the Bullets Fly had the title tune , Oceans awash the Gunwale and Every Hungry Woman that stood out. Otherwise a bunch of tunes that were difficult to listen too.
 
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I love their version of "Slip Away." There are a lot of good songs and if they were redone in a more rustic or organic style they would really shine. "Can't Get Over You" and "Demons" are also really good songs. Overall I like "Just Before The Bullets Fly" better than "I'm No Angel" as albums. "Before The Bullets Fly" is a really good song too. The current GA&F lineup does a great version of it.

I'm No Angel is my least favorite GA album. But I still like it. The success of it and other blues-oriented acts in the mid 80's led to the eventual ABB reunion so that's a good thing in and of itself.

 

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  posted on 2/1/2011 at 07:10 PM
I also love Slip Away....a great, great song.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 09:11 AM
Gregg's version of Slip Away was terrific.
 

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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 09:25 AM
I love the lp..... but it is a product of the time....I could do with out the electronic drum sound....

 

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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 10:21 AM
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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 11:03 AM
I'm No Angel is more pop than anything that Gregg has ever done IMO. And it's a GREAT tune. I also love the version on Private Sessions last Sunday. This has been in GA & Friends setlists for many years and I don't think it's an easy song to do live.........I heard him do it ten years ago when they really didn't have the tempo of the song down. But Gregg has stuck with it, and it really swings now.

 

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.

 

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.


Wow, thanks for the story, I didn't know any of this. This probably explains why Gregg has steadfastly stuck with this song in his setlists over the years........it obviously means a lot to him, by reading the above quote.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 12:28 PM
I'm No Angel is a good pop song. It doesn't have the depth of Gregg's best work, but it is a well crafted song that apparently appealed to a lot of people. If it brought Gregg's talent to the attention of the general public and caused a few people to give his past and future work a listen, than it more than served it's purpose.
 

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It's a terrific song. I remember Gregg performing that on the Grammy Awards in 1986 or 87 to complete his terrific comeback. I love hearing him perform it today.

 

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  posted on 2/2/2011 at 02:36 PM
It ranks pretty high for me. The production is a product of it's time. I remember hearing "I'm No Angel" & "Faces Without Names" for the first time live and almost crying, there was hope for the future!

I wore out the album, first CD I ever bought.

The way I remember it is that epic records signed Gregg & released the album. Signed Dickey who put out "Pattern Disruptive."

The double bills came next and then the reunion. I think it was a calculated move by the record company to sign them both and get the band back together.

 

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.


Wow, thanks for the story, I didn't know any of this. This probably explains why Gregg has steadfastly stuck with this song in his setlists over the years........it obviously means a lot to him, by reading the above quote.


I don't remember even though I worked on the book, if Willie mentioned all of this in No Saints No Saviors. I doubt there would be an ABB touring today if it weren't for Gregg's savvy in recognizing a good song that would sell as well as Willie's business acumen.
And then, he got a fax saying his services were no longer needed a few years later after many years of managing the Gregg Allman Band and we know the rest of THAT story.

 

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.


Wow, thanks for the story, I didn't know any of this. This probably explains why Gregg has steadfastly stuck with this song in his setlists over the years........it obviously means a lot to him, by reading the above quote.


I don't remember even though I worked on the book, if Willie mentioned all of this in No Saints No Saviors. I doubt there would be an ABB touring today if it weren't for Gregg's savvy in recognizing a good song that would sell as well as Willie's business acumen.
And then, he got a fax saying his services were no longer needed a few years later after many years of managing the Gregg Allman Band and we know the rest of THAT story.
So he faxed two people responsible for where he is today?

 

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.


Wow, thanks for the story, I didn't know any of this. This probably explains why Gregg has steadfastly stuck with this song in his setlists over the years........it obviously means a lot to him, by reading the above quote.


I don't remember even though I worked on the book, if Willie mentioned all of this in No Saints No Saviors. I doubt there would be an ABB touring today if it weren't for Gregg's savvy in recognizing a good song that would sell as well as Willie's business acumen.
And then, he got a fax saying his services were no longer needed a few years later after many years of managing the Gregg Allman Band and we know the rest of THAT story.
So he faxed two people responsible for where he is today?



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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.

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Wow, thanks for the story, I didn't know any of this. This probably explains why Gregg has steadfastly stuck with this song in his setlists over the years........it obviously means a lot to him, by reading the above quote.
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I don't remember even though I worked on the book, if Willie mentioned all of this in No Saints No Saviors. I doubt there would be an ABB touring today if it weren't for Gregg's savvy in recognizing a good song that would sell as well as Willie's business acumen.
And then, he got a fax saying his services were no longer needed a few years later after many years of managing the Gregg Allman Band and we know the rest of THAT story.
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coulda been email but,nothing like the smell of hard copy....

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Gregg was really down and out, driving an old beat up car and playing in local clubs when he heard I'm No Angel. After the Scooter Herring debacle in the 70's, nobody wanted to play with him and he wasn't doing too well in a host of ways.
He thought I'm No Angel was the perfect song for his comeback so he drove to Macon to see Willie Perkins. Willie, as is his wont, made lots of phone calls and sent out lots of demos. Even though Gregg didn't write this, it sounded like a Gregg song and it also sounded like something that would appeal to the masses, not just ABB fans.
Willie got Gregg a contract with Arista, I believe, and he was back on his way to stardom. No, the album isn't the greatest but I'm No Angel got a lot of airplay, they made a video that got lots of MTV time. In my opinion, if it weren't for Gregg's recognizing the value of this song and the hard work of Willie Perkins, Gregg might still be playing dusty bars in Florida.


Great story Liz thanks for sharing. Could you though shed some light on this for me? I've always wondered why Gregg or whoever was managing him at the time didn't follow up "I'm No Angel" with "No Evidence Of Love" which I believe was co-wrote and dueted with Don Johnson of Miami Vice fame? Don was hotter than fire at that time with the success of Miami Vice. So hot that I believe Don released an album and on his popularity alone I believe the album went platinum. It seems like an absolute no brainer to me that (if not Gregg then) his management would have loved to capitalized on that particular song and moment in time. However, Gregg and the ABB have missed so many great opportunities over time to increase their popularity that it is amazing that they are actually still out their hittin' it. I'd still like a response Elizabeth if you could enlighten me on this one?

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Here's a new way of thinking...."People" should be responsible for their own actions.

Looks like Gregg has done that. Clean & sober, on his way to good health and in a couple of months, his voice could be back to 100

 

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Here's a new way of thinking...."People" should be responsible for their own actions.

Looks like Gregg has done that. Clean & sober, on his way to good health and in a couple of months, his voice could be back to 100



I sent Robslob some details so I'm gonna let him paraphrase.

For me, though, I have to correct myself on the record company, it was Epic not Arista.
Yes, the booking of both Gregg and Dickey's bands was calculated in getting them back together and resulted in the 20th anniversary tour and the band's actual reunion.

Personally, I think everyone is responsible for their own actions and considering Gregg's lifelong battle with alcohol and drug addiction caused him to allow other people to make decisions for him. Some had his best interests in mind. In fact, Willie P. and Alex Hodges discovered that Gregg had let the ownership of the name "The Allman Brothers Band" lapse and they got it back for him. They could have cut themselves in on this and made millions, but they didn't. It just wasn't the right thing to do. Others have taken advantage of Gregg and made more self serving decisions that indeed benefitted Gregg but also benefitted themselves very sweetly.

Now that Gregg is clean and sober, he's making his own decisions; he is his own man...finally. Cleaning up the mess he was, was hard work and he deserves to be applauded for it. You can already see he has become his own man. It's a long road back from the horrors he suffered but he is winning the battle....one day at a time.

 

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Personally, I think everyone is responsible for their own actions and considering Gregg's lifelong battle with alcohol and drug addiction caused him to allow other people to make decisions for him. Some had his best interests in mind. In fact, Willie P. and Alex Hodges discovered that Gregg had let the ownership of the name "The Allman Brothers Band" lapse and they got it back for him. They could have cut themselves in on this and made millions, but they didn't. It just wasn't the right thing to do. Others have taken advantage of Gregg and made more self serving decisions that indeed benefitted Gregg but also benefitted themselves very sweetly.

Now that Gregg is clean and sober, he's making his own decisions; he is his own man...finally. Cleaning up the mess he was, was hard work and he deserves to be applauded for it. You can already see he has become his own man. It's a long road back from the horrors he suffered but he is winning the battle....one day at a time.


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Thanks.
A note to Chris (Charlesinator). Just thinking about the timing of the whole thing. The anniversary was in 1990 and Gregg has been sober for 16 years. I'm not sure on the release date for I'm No Angel, so I'm guessing 1988 or so. That's ten years after he disappeared because of the Scooter Herring mess in Macon. Those times - between 1978 and 1988, and then 1988 and 1995 (approximately) were some tough years for Gregg. He hit a lot of bottoms but the time before he started his sober journey were the worst. If opportunities were missed or attempted but never transpired, it very well could be that Gregg was just not capable no matter who was managing him.
And if anyone wants to get into the Scooter Herring thing, he wasn't guilty of a lot of things he was accused of and the things he was guilty of, he was hired to do. How's that for a nutshell? LOL.

 

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A note to Chris (Charlesinator). Just thinking about the timing of the whole thing. The anniversary was in 1990 and Gregg has been sober for 16 years. I'm not sure on the release date for I'm No Angel, so I'm guessing 1988 or so. That's ten years after he disappeared because of the Scooter Herring mess in Macon. Those times - between 1978 and 1988, and then 1988 and 1995 (approximately) were some tough years for Gregg. He hit a lot of bottoms but the time before he started his sober journey were the worst. If opportunities were missed or attempted but never transpired, it very well could be that Gregg was just not capable no matter who was managing him.
And if anyone wants to get into the Scooter Herring thing, he wasn't guilty of a lot of things he was accused of and the things he was guilty of, he was hired to do. How's that for a nutshell? LOL.


Thank you for that, "Dreams" ... it is difficult to read some of the incredibly cruel things that are occasionally written about Gregg Allman in the comments sections of articles/interviews that one finds on line. It is unlikely he ever sees any of that stuff -- which is a good thing.

 

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Album was released in 1986.

 

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Album was released in 1986.


saw Dickey & GS open for GA Band & then they all played together in '86....fun evening of fine music,but this wasn't the 70's Gregg & Dickey arriving in white limos....Dickey walked in the front door next to us carrying his own guitar case.....

 

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Thanks.
A note to Chris (Charlesinator). Just thinking about the timing of the whole thing. The anniversary was in 1990 and Gregg has been sober for 16 years. I'm not sure on the release date for I'm No Angel, so I'm guessing 1988 or so. That's ten years after he disappeared because of the Scooter Herring mess in Macon. Those times - between 1978 and 1988, and then 1988 and 1995 (approximately) were some tough years for Gregg. He hit a lot of bottoms but the time before he started his sober journey were the worst. If opportunities were missed or attempted but never transpired, it very well could be that Gregg was just not capable no matter who was managing him.
And if anyone wants to get into the Scooter Herring thing, he wasn't guilty of a lot of things he was accused of and the things he was guilty of, he was hired to do. How's that for a nutshell? LOL.


Thank you for that, "Dreams" ... it is difficult to read some of the incredibly cruel things that are occasionally written about Gregg Allman in the comments sections of articles/interviews that one finds on line. It is unlikely he ever sees any of that stuff -- which is a good thing.


If Gregg has taken the route to sobriety, the only one that really works (and you can tell he has by the crucifix he is never seen without), he "does not wish to forget the past nor shut the door on it". He knows who he was and who he is now and that's all that counts. He knows he was a sick man who has recovered from a hopeless state of mind, body and spirit. He is not ashamed nor should he be. And, I do not for a minute believe that he judges anyone who suffers from the same ailment that he did even though so many of those he works with and many of his fans do. And I believe you all know what I am talking about.
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