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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 03:38 PM
Say What? Democrat Compares Republicans to Nazis
January 19, 2011 1:02 PM



ABC News Jonathan Karl reports: The newfound civility didn’t last long. Political rhetoric in Congress doesn’t get much nastier than the words of one House Democrat during the debate on repealing the health care law.


In an extraordinary outburst on the House floor, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) invoked the Holocaust to attack Republicans on health care and compared rhetoric on the issue to the work of infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.


“They say it's a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels," Cohen said. "You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That's the same kind of thing. And Congressman Cohen didn’t stop there.

“The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it--believed it and you have the Holocaust. We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care. Politifact said the biggest lie of 2010 was a government takeover of health care because there is no government takeover," Cohen said.


Cohen made his comments late last night, but they have attracted no attention because his speech was made to a virtually empty House chamber with no reporters around to watch.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 03:42 PM
Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 03:45 PM
Nazi comparisons are tired, old and stupid. Only one group was like the Nazis, and that was the Nazis.

 

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A civility scorecard, now that's a neat idea. Who counts? Elected officials? Pundits? Media figures?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:07 PM
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Nazi comparisons are tired, old and stupid. Only one group was like the Nazis, and that was the Nazis.


Word.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:09 PM
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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


You should have edited that comment a little more....IMO

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:14 PM
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Cohen made his comments late last night, but they have attracted no attention because his speech was made to a virtually empty House chamber with no reporters around to watch.

If you are a jerk in an empty room, and no one is around to hear you, are you still a jerk?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:20 PM
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Nazi comparisons are tired, old and stupid. Only one group was like the Nazis, and that was the Nazis.


Well said. Anyone who uses that actually has no comprehension of history.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:31 PM
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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


Oh, puh-leeese.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 04:41 PM
The State of Tennessee is 400 miles wide. I can be in Detroit about as quick as I can be in Memphis. The state is commonly divided into 3 grand divisions. East, Middle, and West.

The eastern part of the state is generally quite conservative and generally favors Republican candidates, and the farther you travel west, it becomes more Democrat.

A side note, Bill Haslam was just inaugurated as governor. His family is an institution in Knoxville, and great benefactors of the University of Tennessee. Bob Corker, who is from Chattanooga, was a fraternity brother of Bill Haslam. Mr. Corker was heavily supported by the Haslam fortune in his Senate bid. Lamar Alexander, the other Senator from Tennessee, is a Maryville native, a former governor, President of the University of Tennessee, and US Secretary of Education.

If anyone is interested...

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:03 PM
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The State of Tennessee is 400 miles wide. I can be in Detroit about as quick as I can be in Memphis.

But why would you want to?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:10 PM
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A civility scorecard, now that's a neat idea. Who counts? Elected officials? Pundits? Media figures?


Lets start one.....who decides?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:17 PM
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A civility scorecard, now that's a neat idea. Who counts? Elected officials? Pundits? Media figures?


Lets start one.....who decides?


OK...

How about:

1. Limited to elected officials and television and radio punditry. Expanding it to the blogosphere would just be silly, no? I mean, can't go tit-for-tat on every last opinion.

2. Everything before 1-17-11 is moot. (Might as well start on a Monday)

3. Protest signs of any kind don't count.

4. Instances of questionable civility shall be decided on the majority of the majority opinions of those who wish to give their opinion in the thread. Heh.

5. Impossible as it sounds, interpolitical arguments should be kept out of the thread as much as possible as there's A) plenty of other places for that and B) we are talking about examples of incivility and, their varying levels of incivilitiousness.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:24 PM
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incivilitiousness

Not a word.

 

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Not a word.


Can we not have humor in The New Era?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:29 PM
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Nazi comparisons are tired, old .
Ain't that the truth.
Heck. I have a brother that said YEARS ago that Republican's were becoming Nazi's. and Democrats were becoming Republican's.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:35 PM
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incivilitiousness

Not a word.


Can we not have humor in The New Era?

Look, one of the few redeeming qualities of the Whipping Post is that it continually serves to improve our vocabularies. It we have to suspect the authenticity of each new word that is used that benefit will be lost. Then where will we be?

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:46 PM
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A civility scorecard, now that's a neat idea. Who counts? Elected officials? Pundits? Media figures?


Lets start one.....who decides?


OK...

How about:

1. Limited to elected officials and television and radio punditry. Expanding it to the blogosphere would just be silly, no? I mean, can't go tit-for-tat on every last opinion.

2. Everything before 1-17-11 is moot. (Might as well start on a Monday)

3. Protest signs of any kind don't count.

4. Instances of questionable civility shall be decided on the majority of the majority opinions of those who wish to give their opinion in the thread. Heh.

5. Impossible as it sounds, interpolitical arguments should be kept out of the thread as much as possible as there's A) plenty of other places for that and B) we are talking about examples of incivility and, their varying levels of incivilitiousness.



I can see you've been giving this a lot of thought.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 05:52 PM
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The State of Tennessee is 400 miles wide. I can be in Detroit about as quick as I can be in Memphis.

But why would you want to?


Never have, but I could!

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 06:39 PM
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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


You should have edited that comment a little more....IMO
why, did you not see a the similarities?.

 

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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


You should have edited that comment a little more....IMO
why, did you not see a the similarities?.


No.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 07:21 PM
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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


You should have edited that comment a little more....IMO
why, did you not see a the similarities?.


No.
So, the republican party didnt spew: lies, hate propaganda, misinformation, to get back in power??. the nazi's used these very tactics to get in power, did they not??

 

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Plus, the Germans (Nazi's) learned of propaganda from the United States. We perfected it, they just borrowed our ideas. So, yes, there are similarities.

The first large-scale use of propaganda by the U.S. government came during World War I. The government implemented citizens and children to help promote war bonds and stamps to help stimulate the economy. To keep the prices of war supplies down, the U.S. government produced posters that encouraged people to reduce waste and grow their own vegetables in "victory gardens." The government used propaganda on a larger scale during the New Deal and World War II.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 09:13 PM
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Well, there is a similarities. [lie's, propaganda, misinformation, hate]



[Edited on 1/19/2011 by pops42]


You should have edited that comment a little more....IMO
why, did you not see a the similarities?.


No.
So, the republican party didnt spew: lies, hate propaganda, misinformation, to get back in power??. the nazi's used these very tactics to get in power, did they not??


Nope, sorry but there is no way in he11 I would equate the two.

 

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  posted on 1/19/2011 at 10:28 PM
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incivilitiousness

Not a word.


Can we not have humor in The New Era?

No.

 

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