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  posted on 1/11/2011 at 09:08 AM
Does anybody know anything about these?: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1156


I remember reading about them in the past where people said they were pretty close to a real coricidin bottle. I use a Dunlop Blues Bottle, but I'd like to try a real coricidin bottle. This seems like a cheaper way to do that if they're comparable.

 
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  posted on 1/11/2011 at 08:29 PM
Players buy into the myth that using exactly what Duane did will get them sliding close what he sounded like. There are some disadvantages to the real Coricidin bottles. One is the light weight, and also the fact that your finger can get stuffy and sweat inside that closed bottle. Real glass can also shatter easliy when accidentally dropped on a hard floor surface.

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  posted on 1/12/2011 at 06:33 AM
I have about six slides, ranging from a modified socket to hand-blown glass, and just about everything in between. I have found that I prefer the heavy brass slide Dunlop offers, with an open top, and the closed Blues Bottle slide. Both are pretty thick and heavy. I think that offers a certain amount of quality to the tone. But the weight feels right on my hand, which affects my technique in a positive way. I also use only glass when playing electric, but will use either on dobro.

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  posted on 1/12/2011 at 05:27 PM
Hitting The Note Merch used to have those.

I got one, It is a bit lighter glass than my blues bottle.
I like the DA coricidin for electric guitar and the blues bottle for acoustic slide.
I also have a stainless steel slide, but don't use that as much mostly on electric.

 

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  posted on 1/12/2011 at 06:08 PM
I also use the closed Blues Bottle by Dunlop...has good weight and offers good control and nice tone. The ceramic mudslide also had a good tone but was so long, I had to cut it and seal the end. Dropped it and it shattered. One other thing about the original Coricidan bottles, I have 2 left and 1 has a raised seam so if it gets turned on your finger...well its kinda sour.
 

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  posted on 1/13/2011 at 02:02 PM
Cool. Thanks for the info, guys. I just ordered one and I'll be sure to report my findings after it arrives.
 

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  posted on 1/15/2011 at 05:49 PM
I don't know about that one but I think you need to use some imagination and experimentation when using slides. I've used cut brass and copper pipes. Different glass bottles.

From that experimentation, I've found that brass pipe works best with dobro and acoustic while glass works best for electric.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2011 at 07:45 PM
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I don't know about that one but I think you need to use some imagination and experimentation when using slides. I've used cut brass and copper pipes. Different glass bottles.

From that experimentation, I've found that brass pipe works best with dobro and acoustic while glass works best for electric.
Good advice and agrees with what has worked for me. I can also recommend trying the Dunlop ceramic Mudslides instead of glass.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2011 at 07:51 PM
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I don't know about that one but I think you need to use some imagination and experimentation when using slides. I've used cut brass and copper pipes. Different glass bottles.

From that experimentation, I've found that brass pipe works best with dobro and acoustic while glass works best for electric.


Good advice and agrees with what has worked for me.


As well here. While playing acoustic slide, I use brass (Just sounds swampier)...I believe the pores in the brass "Grip' the strings if you will....

 

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  posted on 1/16/2011 at 09:46 PM
"Just sounds swampier". That says it exactly!!
 

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  posted on 1/17/2011 at 10:19 AM
Blackceasar I agree with Yankeefan. Experiment and see what works best for you. Of course if having that Duane thing going puts you in the right frame of mind then go for it. But do know that it is a generally accepted that it's best to play with a slide on your pinked which allows you to damp and fret behind the slide with the other fingers. Also glass for electric and brass or metal for acoustic. However I have a slide that like a piece of a bicycle. It's chrom and longer than a normal slide. I've found that the added length helps me reach further up the neck on acoustics and helps with the vibrato. Also th look adds to the mojo.
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  posted on 1/17/2011 at 11:34 AM
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Blackceasar I agree with Yankeefan. Experiment and see what works best for you. Of course if having that Duane thing going puts you in the right frame of mind then go for it. But do know that it is a generally accepted that it's best to play with a slide on your pinked which allows you to damp and fret behind the slide with the other fingers. Also glass for electric and brass or metal for acoustic. However I have a slide that like a piece of a bicycle. It's chrom and longer than a normal slide. I've found that the added length helps me reach further up the neck on acoustics and helps with the vibrato. Also th look adds to the mojo.
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Cool idea! Perhaps a seat tube? or handlebar part? Just curious .....

I rarely play slide, but my fave is a cut-off wine bottle (Champagne actually as I recall, for the heavier glass wall).

Nobody's mentioned yet, I don't think, using a shorter slide -- purposely (which as I recall, doesn't Warren do this?) -- meant to cover, say, about 5 strings max.

This occurred to me because I thought that the Coricidin bottle as well as "Duane Allman Slide" were on the short side, more like 5 to 5.5 string coverage when perpendicular---Am I right?

Hey, just found this - mentions Derek Trucks (and Duane):

http://bloozebottle.com/product_medium_clear.htm

(oh, it just says "similar" to ones used by Duane, Derek, et al ...)

[Edited on 1/17/2011 by Rob_in_NC]

 

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  posted on 1/17/2011 at 12:44 PM
anyone know how often Duane (and derek and warren) replaced their slides??
when i start to see to many scratches on the glass i get a new one, thinking
it may effect the intonation (just in case)....
i use the dunlop blues bottle heavy medium version.....

 

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  posted on 1/17/2011 at 04:42 PM
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Cool idea! Perhaps a seat tube? or handlebar part? Just curious .....

I rarely play slide, but my fave is a cut-off wine bottle (Champagne actually as I recall, for the heavier glass wall).

Nobody's mentioned yet, I don't think, using a shorter slide -- purposely (which as I recall, doesn't Warren do this?) -- meant to cover, say, about 5 strings max.

This occurred to me because I thought that the Coricidin bottle as well as "Duane Allman Slide" were on the short side, more like 5 to 5.5 string coverage when perpendicular---Am I right?

Hey, just found this - mentions Derek Trucks (and Duane):

http://bloozebottle.com/product_medium_clear.htm

(oh, it just says "similar" to ones used by Duane, Derek, et al ...)

[Edited on 1/17/2011 by Rob_in_NC]


i just went on their website and ordered a few of the mediums and larges. I'm gonna give'm a whirl and see how it goes. Thanks for the link!

 

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  posted on 1/21/2011 at 03:34 PM
I got my duane slide in a couple days ago and after spending some time with it, all I can say is this thing is incredible. i'd say it's definitely glass as opposed to pyrex, since it's almost wavy when you look through it. it reminds me of a window on an old house that way, which i guess could be an argument that these things are fairly old as well. The walls are thicker than i expected, more like a whiskey bottle than the dunlop blues bottle that i was using before. It's shorter than the blues bottle which, to me, makes it easier to get around the fretboard. And then there's the tone. Good lord, the tone. It makes the blues bottle sound like a child's toy. I also have a dunlop pyrex tube type slide, which has substantially thicker walls than even the duane slide. It's not even in the same ballpark as this thing. Notes are louder, bigger, sustain longer, and i can hardly put this thing down. This is the slide I've spent years looking for. If a "real" coricidin bottle sounds, feels, and plays better than this thing, it's worth every penny of $100 or whatever they're going for now. I'm going to buy a few more of these duane's before the guy selling them figures out what he's got and jacks the price up.

 

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  posted on 1/21/2011 at 07:22 PM
Two threads on this. Hmmmmmmmmmmm- I'm calling shenanigans.

 

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Two threads on this. Hmmmmmmmmmmm- I'm calling shenanigans.


And all 9 of his 9 posts were on these 2 threads. Coincidence??

 

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  posted on 1/22/2011 at 01:03 AM
actually, i started the one in the general chat and then realized there was a guitar/musician-specific section of the forum, so i started this one. i just wanted to see if anybody had any info on these things. some people responded to the general thread, some responded to this one. and, just so it's not used against me, i have an identical thread on the gear page, where even more people have given me information. different information than i got in either of these threads. if using the internet to gather information is shenanigans, then i'd say we're all guilty.
 

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  posted on 1/22/2011 at 07:33 PM
hey bc, Can you provide a link to the thread in the other forum where you got different information? I ordered a few of these and am interested in the feedback people are offering. Thanks!
 

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  posted on 1/23/2011 at 04:42 AM
here you go, slowhand. let the information flow : http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=832681

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  posted on 1/23/2011 at 10:52 AM
Thanks bro, I looked up those Silica Lead Crystal slides and those seem like they may offer a great tone. A little pricey though.

I think it's funny that in the other forum the biggest argument is not over tone or technique differences that the bottle-style slide offers versus the open-top slide. Instead it is that most people don't like the bottles because it makes their finger sweaty and stinky. Not to say that isn't a real concern. But I sweat so much playing in front of people, I don't usually think about how my finger smells. I usually have sweat issues in other places!

I m anxious to get my new slides. I guess mail is being delayed to my APO because of the weather back north. I'll video something to post here when I get them.

 

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  posted on 1/23/2011 at 11:33 AM
hahaha. i feel you man. finger sweat is usually the least of my sweat concerns. can't wait to see your video.

and yeah, the lead crystal has my curiosity piqued, too. those diamond slides are pretty pricey, but as thorough (and cool) as ian was with responding to my gear geek emails,i have a feeling his slides are pretty awesome. anybody that dedicated to their craft must turn out a quality product.

 

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  posted on 2/5/2011 at 01:00 AM
So I got my Blooze Slides today. I purchased two of the long and two of the medium. I didn't have a chance to play them until I got off work late this evening and I'm pretty tired. However, I busted out the ol' dobro and gave'm a few passes. I gotta say I am not really impressed with them. At least for acoustic slide. The glass is just a little bit thicker than the thinnest glass slide I have ever played. My personal preference is for heavier, thicker glass, for both acoustic and electric. So before I even picked up the dobro I didn't like the feel of it. Regardless I held up passing any judgment until I heard the tone. The tone was surprisingly more bell-like than raspy, which is what I expected from its weight. I find playing with the longer one a little cumbersome, but also useful for full six string chording. The medium was great for focusing on playing heads and single note runs, yet still able to span all six strings if necessary. I have a feeling that these may tell a completely different story on my Les Paul. But I won't be able to try that out and make that decision until early summer since I'm stuck in my hooch down here in Cuba without it.

Disclaimer: Admittedly, I have been playing a brass Dunlop slide that is considerably heavier than the Blooze bottles. My primary glass slide is a hand-cut and polished Russian vodka bottleneck that is ridiculously thick and tonal (I bought it at a locally owned music store in Portland, Maine a while back). AND I am overdue for a new set of strings on the dobro. So I hope that my review isn't too scathing for these slides. They are relatively inexpensive (two of these for the price of one Dunlop Blues Bottle) and may possess the ability to produce great Duane-like tone plugged in. I plan on busting these out to see what else they are capable of doing while playing with another guitarist, as well as when my new set of dobro strings arrive (everything takes about three weeks to get here!) in the near future. So I may have another review forth-coming, if I haven't said too much already.

One more thing- is it just me, or should we have a thread here called, "Show Your Slides"? I realized tonight I have about eight different and unique slides, and that is just what I brought on this deployment with me! I'm thinking I might take a picture of 'em all to show them off!

 

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One more thing- is it just me, or should we have a thread here called, "Show Your Slides"? I realized tonight I have about eight different and unique slides, and that is just what I brought on this deployment with me! I'm thinking I might take a picture of 'em all to show them off!


Right on. I'll try to photograph the one bottleneck slide that I have. (assuming I can find it!)

 

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  posted on 3/8/2011 at 10:36 AM
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I think it's funny that in the other forum the biggest argument is not over tone or technique differences that the bottle-style slide offers versus the open-top slide. Instead it is that most people don't like the bottles because it makes their finger sweaty and stinky. Not to say that isn't a real concern. But I sweat so much playing in front of people, I don't usually think about how my finger smells. I usually have sweat issues in other places!




Yeah, I don't imagine too many folks come up sniffing fingers, after a gig anyway.

 

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