Don't click or your IP will be banned


Hittin' The Web with the Allman Brothers Band Forum
You are not logged in

< Last Thread   Next Thread >Ascending sortDescending sorting  
Author: Subject: DVD file size issue

Extreme Peach





Posts: 1962
(1969 all sites)
Registered: 6/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/27/2010 at 10:14 PM
I have a DVD that shows as about 7GB but when I open it to see the files in Windows Explorer it says the DVD is around 80GB and when I tried to copy the disc to my hard drive it took up about 40 GB of space before I stopped it. My wife got me a region 2 dvd and I want to make it region free so I was copying to my HD. I've seen this before but now I really need to know what's going on. Anyone know? Is it a file system error? all other DVDs are normal. I'm running Windows XP SP3 and I'm fairly tech savvy. Can't figure this one out though. Thanks in advance!

 

____________________
Do not panic!
http://jimkanavy.com
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1124427931
http://www.americanbluesscene.com

 
Replies:

Ultimate Peach



Karma:
Posts: 3057
(3097 all sites)
Registered: 10/3/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 12:11 AM
I cant really help you with your problem, as all of this "gb" buisiness and "files" business is of completely no interest to me. Its kinda like someone speaking mongolese or something to me.

Anyway, I am sure someone who is an expert at all of that be come along and help you. Thank God for those folks. They are a big help.

But I am wondering, why dont you just play it through a DVD player?

 

____________________
In my 38th year following the Allman Brothers. Things that "rock"....The Allman Brothers Band, Jam bands, Bluegrass music and Steamboats

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6585
(6595 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 04:52 AM
Couldn't this be some sort of copy protection? Some imbedded software on your retail disc that gives your PC the impression it's dealing with 40 GB of space so you can't copy it from your HD to a blank DVDr even if it's a dual layer disc?

 

____________________

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1962
(1969 all sites)
Registered: 6/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 07:57 AM
quote:
Couldn't this be some sort of copy protection? Some imbedded software on your retail disc that gives your PC the impression it's dealing with 40 GB of space so you can't copy it from your HD to a blank DVDr even if it's a dual layer disc?


I was thinking that too. I couldn't find any reference to it online. Too many variables in search engine keywords.

 

____________________
Do not panic!

http://jimkanavy.com />
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1124427931 />
http://www.americanbluesscene.com

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1962
(1969 all sites)
Registered: 6/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 07:59 AM
quote:
But I am wondering, why dont you just play it through a DVD player?


It's a region 2 DVD which is Europe. I'm in the US and we have region 1 players. I need to make a region free copy so I can watch it.

 

____________________
Do not panic!

http://jimkanavy.com />
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1124427931 />
http://www.americanbluesscene.com

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1480
(1480 all sites)
Registered: 6/29/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 09:03 AM
Is it Blu-Ray? A blue ray disc can have up to 50 GB (approx) on it. But not 80 GB


Explore the VIDEO_TS folder and look for duplicate files. You can play each of those VTS_**_**.VOB files with VLC media player or Media Player Classic. See if you can find the entire movie by playing each one of those .VOB. The others may just be duplicate files. When you find all the VOB's in your movie, copy them to your hard drive. You'll have to find the .IFO, BUP, etc that go along with the VOB's. Then use DVDshrink to hopefully create a DVD structure. But you might have to re-author the DVD.
Yeah, it's a pain. No guarantees.

DVD structure should look something like this. (This is a DVD5 not DVD9, so it's not exact)





The highlighted VOB's are the actual movie file.

Try using an updated version of DVDFab5, it isn't free, but you get a free trial period.

It could just be a windows issue. I recorded a movie off dish network with a standalone DVD recorder onto a DVD5 4.7 GB DVD. Then tried to rip the DVD to my PC hard drive so I could cut out the commercials, When I copied the DVD, I noticed that it was twice as large, because every file was duplicated. (Figure that one out). I simply copied the files I needed, and deleted the rest.

Throw the DVD in a different PC, or Mac, and see if it's the same.

Also, they make a DVD player blu ray / player that will play all regions.(region free) You might have shop around to find one tho.

Good luck.

[Edited on 12/28/2010 by punknseed]

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2114
(2183 all sites)
Registered: 12/9/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 03:51 PM
quote:
It's a region 2 DVD which is Europe. I'm in the US and we have region 1 players. I need to make a region free copy so I can watch it.


Have you considered hacking your DVD player to make it region-free?

Might check here to see if your model player is listed:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks


[Edited on 12/28/2010 by Zambi]

 

____________________



 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1962
(1969 all sites)
Registered: 6/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 04:24 PM
@Zambi: That was the first thing I tried! lol

I got a copy of DVD Fab and that worked great. Apparently the file size trick is some kind of copy protection. I also learned that pretending to have un-copyable sectors is also a copy protection in use on DVDs.

Thanks to punknseed for the DVD fab tip. The DVD is Peep Show from BBC4. My wife got me Series 1-6 which are not available in the US (except for Series 1). Now I have region free discs and I can catch up with Mark & Jez. It is the funniest, filthiest, most abrasive TV show I've ever seen. Truly outrageous. They play it sometimes on BBC America.

Happy New Year folks!

 

____________________
Do not panic!

http://jimkanavy.com />
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1124427931 />
http://www.americanbluesscene.com

 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6585
(6595 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/28/2010 at 05:57 PM
quote:
Have you considered hacking your DVD player to make it region-free?

[Edited on 12/28/2010 by Zambi]


Good idea! A few years ago i bought a cheap dvd player and expected it to be code free but it wasn't. Googled the name of the player and the words code free. Got a link to a website and with only a few steps to follow the player was code free. I had to go to a specific part of the menu open and close the player a few times give a code and wham bam thank you man.

 

____________________

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1480
(1480 all sites)
Registered: 6/29/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/29/2010 at 08:44 AM
quote:
quote:
It's a region 2 DVD which is Europe. I'm in the US and we have region 1 players. I need to make a region free copy so I can watch it.


Have you considered hacking your DVD player to make it region-free?

Might check here to see if your model player is listed:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks


[Edited on 12/28/2010 by Zambi]


@Zambi
That is awesome. I have to try it.

@ everyone
Nothing beats a good (region free if you can find it) Blu-ray player. It will take a regular SD DVD (720 x 480 NTSC) and up-convert it to 1080. It won't be as good as a real blu-ray disc, but it will look much better than if played in a DVD player. Even my cheap Blu-ray player makes those DVD's look great on my plasma screen.

@Jfk2112.
I'm told that if you . . . er . . . back up your DVD's often, Then it's worth it to buy the full version of DVDfab5.
I like the Platinum version.
I still use the DVDFab5 occasionally, (my free trial ran out a long time ago ) it's really limited. But still works.




 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2114
(2183 all sites)
Registered: 12/9/2001
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/29/2010 at 12:05 PM
quote:
A few years ago i bought a cheap dvd player and expected it to be code free but it wasn't.


Was that one of the "GO Video!" (I think) branded SD units made in Taiwan or China that one of the warehouse clubs was selling for like $50? I remember reading about it, but too late to take advantage, but a huge initial batch were shipped to the U.S. and all were coded region free.

 

____________________



 

Universal Peach



Karma:
Posts: 6585
(6595 all sites)
Registered: 5/18/2003
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/29/2010 at 12:48 PM
quote:
quote:
A few years ago i bought a cheap dvd player and expected it to be code free but it wasn't.


Was that one of the "GO Video!" (I think) branded SD units made in Taiwan or China that one of the warehouse clubs was selling for like $50? I remember reading about it, but too late to take advantage, but a huge initial batch were shipped to the U.S. and all were coded region free.


The brand name was Difrnce. I found the instructions on the www to make it code free.

 

____________________

 

A Peach Supreme



Karma:
Posts: 2369
(2557 all sites)
Registered: 1/6/2002
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/29/2010 at 12:52 PM
I absolutely love Peep Show and I wanted to buy the later series discs for US tv's. Is it to do with the 'lines' on the tv or what?

Peep show is one of the funniest series Ive seen in a long time. The writing is so dry and subtle but funny. I ended up watching 20min espisode uploads on you tube but I'd rather pay for the dvds.

Super Hands!!!!

do any of you tech folk think that the tvs/dvds will be made universally the same or will internet to tv watching make it possible to view other countries' shows.

Spaced is another decent UK comedy show but not as good as Peep Show.

 

____________________
Unashamedly PEACHY!!

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1480
(1480 all sites)
Registered: 6/29/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/30/2010 at 08:53 AM
quote:
Is it to do with the 'lines' on the tv or what?


If I understand correctly;
PAL video is not interlaced and has more lines of resolution. PAL=625, NTSC = 525. Pal video plays faster than NTSC video. (about 4%) Pal is 24 frames per second, where NTSC is 30 (29.97) FPS.
That's why there's always an A/V sync issue when converting from PAL to NTSC. The audio will always have to be "time stretched" to make it the same length as the video, and the video resized to make it play. This really affects the quality.

quote:
you tech folk think that the tvs/dvds will be made universally the same


I'm not a techie, but, I say No, because the MPAA wants to control what movies you are able to see, when you are able to see them, who can see what, and what you do with the DVD long after you own it. IMHO



[Edited on 12/30/2010 by punknseed]

 

Extreme Peach



Karma:
Posts: 1962
(1969 all sites)
Registered: 6/7/2005
Status: Offline

  posted on 12/30/2010 at 08:55 AM
The region coding is done so the companies can control the markets and content in the different areas of the world. Their official line is that it is to prevent piracy but that seems ridiculous. After a few hours of research I was able to create region free discs using nothing more than my computer. I'm sure professional bootleggers have no problem with the region coding at all.

The Peep Show set has series 1-6. It's so well done. Mark is so neurotic, you can feel it. He cringes, I cringe. The actors are fantastic. I've always loved British comedy but this takes it to a whole new level.

 

____________________
Do not panic!

http://jimkanavy.com />
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=name&id=1124427931 />
http://www.americanbluesscene.com

 
 


Powered by XForum 1.81.1 by Trollix Software


Privacy | Terms of Service
The ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND name, The ALLMAN BROTHERS name, likenesses, logos, mushroom design and peach truck are all registered trademarks of THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. whose rights are specifically reserved. Any artwork, visual, or audio representations used on this web site CONTAINING ANY REGISTERED TRADEMARKS are under license from The ABB MERCHANDISING CO., INC. A REVOCABLE, GRATIS LICENSE IS GRANTED TO ALL REGISTERED PEACH CORP MEMBERS FOR The DOWNLOADING OF ONE COPY FOR PERSONAL USE ONLY. ANY DISTRIBUTION OR REPRODUCTION OF THE TRADEMARKS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE PROHIBITED AND ARE SPECIFICALLY RESERVED BY THE ABB MERCHANDISING CO.,INC.
site by Hittin' the Web Group with www.experiencewasabi3d.com