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  posted on 12/9/2010 at 10:49 AM
Governments are putting the citizens on the hook for these bailouts and asking all to take a hair cut. Clearly, by some of the violence and protest we have seen, the people are not happy about it. Greece, Ireland, England, Spain, Portugal ... How are they going to contain this debt crisis and when are people going to start looking at the USA and the fact that we are worse off than Europe?

I wonder how Americans are going to feel when they are asked to undertake austerity measures here? Will there be protest and violence? How are people going to react?

Students protest in London over fee increases in tuition:
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  posted on 12/9/2010 at 10:21 PM
They'll probably get upset and go to McDonalds even though they're not hungry.
 

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  posted on 12/9/2010 at 10:31 PM
I hope they do.

 

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  posted on 12/9/2010 at 10:46 PM
They'll stop buying hot tubs.............

 

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  posted on 12/9/2010 at 10:56 PM
they'll hang the rich.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 10:38 AM
They should work through their political system not be out there throwing things at government official's limos.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 10:39 AM
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I hope they do.


Advocating violence?

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 10:45 AM
The wonders of socialism, on display for all to see...
 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:05 AM
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The wonders of socialism, on display for all to see...


They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:08 AM
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They should work through their political system not be out there throwing things at government official's limos.
Especially limos carrying people who really are not responsible for setting policies for things like education tuition.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:14 AM
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They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.


That's true, no doubt about that. How's that workin' out for 'em so far?

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:16 AM
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They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.


That's true, no doubt about that. How's that workin' out for 'em so far?


In what context? It's not as if every single person in Europe is living in squalor and misery.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:29 AM
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The wonders of socialism, on display for all to see...


They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.


That's true, no doubt about that. How's that workin' out for 'em so far?


In what context? It's not as if every single person in Europe is living in squalor and misery.


Also true. As a matter of fact, my experience after living in Europe for four years was that folks over there live pretty well. Some things I didn't get, like still heating your house with coal (I lived in England) and stuff like that, but overall, folks seemed to be doing okay.

And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.

This is what we're witnessing. The collective meltdown of a system where people are now starting to realize that the gravy train has left the station, and they're no longer on it.

 

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The wonders of socialism, on display for all to see...


They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.


That's true, no doubt about that. How's that workin' out for 'em so far?


In what context? It's not as if every single person in Europe is living in squalor and misery.


Also true. As a matter of fact, my experience after living in Europe for four years was that folks over there live pretty well. Some things I didn't get, like still heating your house with coal (I lived in England) and stuff like that, but overall, folks seemed to be doing okay.

And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.

This is what we're witnessing. The collective meltdown of a system where people are now starting to realize that the gravy train has left the station, and they're no longer on it.


But the rich folks are riding it in style!

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:40 AM
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The wonders of socialism, on display for all to see...


They've been protesting over things in Europe for decades.


That's true, no doubt about that. How's that workin' out for 'em so far?


In what context? It's not as if every single person in Europe is living in squalor and misery.


Also true. As a matter of fact, my experience after living in Europe for four years was that folks over there live pretty well. Some things I didn't get, like still heating your house with coal (I lived in England) and stuff like that, but overall, folks seemed to be doing okay.

And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.

This is what we're witnessing. The collective meltdown of a system where people are now starting to realize that the gravy train has left the station, and they're no longer on it.


But the rich folks are riding it in style!


More like the Bueaurcrats. That's how it works in socialist systems.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:44 AM
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And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.



I think they're naturally prone to protest. The French took to the streets when the government wanted to change the standard amount of hours in a work week.

Everyone is a little bit socialist. That was a Tea Partier standing with a sign saying "Government Keep Your Hands Off My Medicare."

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 11:49 AM
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And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.



I think they're naturally prone to protest. The French took to the streets when the government wanted to change the standard amount of hours in a work week.

Everyone is a little bit socialist. That was a Tea Partier standing with a sign saying "Government Keep Your Hands Off My Medicare."


One man's "protest" is another man's "whining"

Not sure if the Europeans are "prone to protest" or not, otherwise I would have thought maybe they would have been a little more vocal back in the 1930s when the Germans started that crazy new fashion trend of all wearing the same thing and thrusting their arms up at a jaunty angle all the time.

 

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And now for the context: The protests over the years don't seem to have accomplished much, and these probably won't either. The fact remains that an entitlement society where folks are given lots of goodies for free ends up creating a class of people that expect or demand ever increasing entitlements. It eats up more and more of the country's revenues from taxes, etc. to the point where it's unsustainable.



I think they're naturally prone to protest. The French took to the streets when the government wanted to change the standard amount of hours in a work week.

Everyone is a little bit socialist. That was a Tea Partier standing with a sign saying "Government Keep Your Hands Off My Medicare."


One man's "protest" is another man's "whining"

Not sure if the Europeans are "prone to protest" or not, otherwise I would have thought maybe they would have been a little more vocal back in the 1930s when the Germans started that crazy new fashion trend of all wearing the same thing and thrusting their arms up at a jaunty angle all the time.


Not sure that's the best parallel, but, OK.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 12:44 PM
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One man's "protest" is another man's "whining"

Not sure if the Europeans are "prone to protest" or not, otherwise I would have thought maybe they would have been a little more vocal back in the 1930s when the Germans started that crazy new fashion trend of all wearing the same thing and thrusting their arms up at a jaunty angle all the time.



We English were more than vocal in 1939. You have no idea what my parents went through between 1939 - 45. The USA has never been threatened like these islands were at that time........ You are an idiot!

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 12:46 PM
There's always been one form or another of protest in Europe. Remember the French revolution, the war of the roses, etc. It's how monarchies have fallen and democratic processes have come into power. Even over here this country cme into being through revolt.

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 01:04 PM
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One man's "protest" is another man's "whining"

Not sure if the Europeans are "prone to protest" or not, otherwise I would have thought maybe they would have been a little more vocal back in the 1930s when the Germans started that crazy new fashion trend of all wearing the same thing and thrusting their arms up at a jaunty angle all the time.



We English were more than vocal in 1939. You have no idea what my parents went through between 1939 - 45. The USA has never been threatened like these islands were at that time........ You are an idiot!


Wow, right to name calling. If you notice, I didn't say "English" or "French" or "Dutch" or anyone else, I said "Europeans." I never considered the English Europeans, and in my four years of living there, I met quite a few Englishmen who thought the same thing. Just like a Canadian doesn't consider himself "American" even though Canada is part of the general "America."

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The working class in this country have a proud history of protest going back to the Tolpuddle Martyrs or the Peterloo Massacre. Myself, I think it's great that students can be bothered to get off their arses and protest about something they believe in. And let's not forget what this is about. The junior part of our coalition government campaigned on a manifesto which promised to abolish tuition fees. Now here they are shoring up the tory plan to TREBLE the fees! Truly shameful.
It's a shame the protests have been hi-jacked by the rent a mob crowd (as they always are) but that isn't the students fault. Protest is allowed in the UK, We're not in Burma.

 

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One man's "protest" is another man's "whining"

Not sure if the Europeans are "prone to protest" or not, otherwise I would have thought maybe they would have been a little more vocal back in the 1930s when the Germans started that crazy new fashion trend of all wearing the same thing and thrusting their arms up at a jaunty angle all the time.



We English were more than vocal in 1939. You have no idea what my parents went through between 1939 - 45. The USA has never been threatened like these islands were at that time........ You are an idiot!


Wow, right to name calling. If you notice, I didn't say "English" or "French" or "Dutch" or anyone else, I said "Europeans." I never considered the English Europeans, and in my four years of living there, I met quite a few Englishmen who thought the same thing. Just like a Canadian doesn't consider himself "American" even though Canada is part of the general "America."

Relax, will ya? And stop puffing on those fags, they'll kill ya...


Doesn't matter what you or anybody considers, The English are European, end of story. And erm, No, a Canadian wouldn't consider himself an American because he's not American he's Canadian. Jeezas!!!

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 01:13 PM
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The working class in this country have a proud history of protest going back to the Tolpuddle Martyrs or the Peterloo Massacre. Myself, I think it's great that students can be bothered to get off their arses and protest about something they believe in. And let's not forget what this is about. The junior part of our coalition government campaigned on a manifesto which promised to abolish tuition fees. Now here they are shoring up the tory plan to TREBLE the fees! Truly shameful.
It's a shame the protests have been hi-jacked by the rent a mob crowd (as they always are) but that isn't the students fault. Protest is allowed in the UK, We're not in Burma.


"Protest is allowed in the UK"

Wonder what ol' Chuck and whats-her-name think about that after yesterday?

 

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  posted on 12/10/2010 at 01:17 PM
Remember most people in Europe don't have access to firearms. Different story here in the old USA.
 
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