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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:15 AM
Mainly, I miss Dickey Betts.

Sat here and watched my beat up copy of 'Austin City Limits' and the 'House of Blues' DVD's from the 90's....

Dickey's solo on 'Back Where it all Began' makes me just want to dance and sing.

Of course Warren is awesome, but Dickey's guitar was just different and I miss it.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqxywPYRCbI

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:30 AM
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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:31 AM
I understand, totally..

There is a sound so distinctively missing without Mr. Betts, for me.. he and of course all the original members made up their unique sound .... after Duane and Berry passed.. Betts was front and center and did so much for the continuing sound of the ABB... with added delights of Chuck and Lamar... The sound with Warren was great as well...

But overall I miss Betts's contribution's to the ABB " live" music...

While Dickey is still entertaining the idea of touring for some shows, if he is in a town near you.. you might wanna think about seeing him and Great Southern.... dancing and singing all the way... with the sound of the ABB always near by.... he was always a big part of the ABB to me..

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:36 AM
Thanks for Videos ... good way to start a Sunday morning...

Also... one other thing,.,. Dickey Betts has complete stage presence as well , he commands the stage and has lots of dripping charisma.. never boring or dull... something is always going on.... I like that...

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:56 AM
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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 01:52 PM
Next to the original this is my favorite lineup.
Wish they would release some archival audio & video of this version of the band.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 03:42 PM
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Next to the original this is my favorite lineup.
Wish they would release some archival audio & video of this version of the band.


To be honest, there are so many soundboard recordings freely traded from that era that an audio release would not sell as much. A DVD release would be great.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 05:15 PM
"I could handle a guitar threesome in the band..."

And Mr. Leavell too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 06:36 PM
I miss Back Where it All Begins the most:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRGCuvrXr9Q

It is in my top 5 ABB tunes of all time. It is just so Allman-brotherish.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 06:50 PM
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I got to admit, I got a little verklempt watching that video. The ABB had just made a triumphant return to the limelight with two great new players. The imagery of the Native American life and culture, which was the inspiration of the song, was powerful. We still owe them...BIG time. And of course, Brother Allen Woody, who is at the big gig in the sky now.... This was as strong of a line up as the ABB ever had. VERY good years...treasured by the fans. Thanks for posting the link. Now....hand me a tissue, please.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 07:31 PM
I got into The Allman Brothers around the age of 17 or 18 which was 1987-88. So when they reformed Dickey, Warren & Woody were the front line I came to know and love. That is still my favorite lineup. By the time of Seven Turns I was already used to Warren's playing from "Pattern Disruptive" which is one of my favorite non-ABB ABB records.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 07:48 PM
For me,I'll take the original line-up 1st...the current line-up 2nd (& a VERY close 2nd at that)...& the Dickey,Warren & Woody line-up 3rd.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 08:17 PM
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I miss Back Where it All Begins the most:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRGCuvrXr9Q

It is in my top 5 ABB tunes of all time. It is just so Allman-brotherish.



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I got to admit, I got a little verklempt watching that video. The ABB had just made a triumphant return to the limelight with two great new players. The imagery of the Native American life and culture, which was the inspiration of the song, was powerful. We still owe them...BIG time. And of course, Brother Allen Woody, who is at the big gig in the sky now.... This was as strong of a line up as the ABB ever had. VERY good years...treasured by the fans. Thanks for posting the link. Now....hand me a tissue, please.




I am with you 100%, with Dickey being the missing link. "Seven Truns" is one of those great 'Dickey' songs, and I love listening to the 1994 live recordings. They may have not changed the setlist very much, but the tone was phat and the music powerful. All of the talk about "this was a Warren night" or "this was a Derek night," in 1994 Warren had the slide chair and they smoked it as a band - together, with Woody rolling underneath. And at that time there was no "The Weight," "Night They Drove Dixie Down," "Into The Mystic" or "Anyday" rehashes but new songs from a great (at the time) new album in Back Where It All Begins. I'm appreciating that version of the band more and more every day.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 10:12 PM
Good to see I'm not the only one who likes the Dickey-Warren-Woody lineup. Derek Trucks certainly brings something special to whatever group he's with, but the fire of the ABB is greatly diminished these days, Exhibit A being any performance of One Way Out since 2000. I may get run out of here for saying this, but Warren is a better fit for Duane's old spot opposite to Dickey in the ABB than Derek ever has been. He hasn't quite got the talent with the slide that Derek does (nobody does...), but he's got way more of the Duane-esque soul and fire to his playing.
 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 10:39 PM
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Good to see I'm not the only one who likes the Dickey-Warren-Woody lineup. Derek Trucks certainly brings something special to whatever group he's with, but the fire of the ABB is greatly diminished these days, Exhibit A being any performance of One Way Out since 2000. I may get run out of here for saying this, but Warren is a better fit for Duane's old spot opposite to Dickey in the ABB than Derek ever has been. He hasn't quite got the talent with the slide that Derek does (nobody does...), but he's got way more of the Duane-esque soul and fire to his playing.


I tend to agree with this. Right now Derek and Warren trade the old Duane spots. Warren has not solely taken over the Dickey spot. For that reason nobody really fills the role Dickey did anymore. It is in many ways an entirely different band. I can certainly understand why some fans would not appreciate it. I do enjoy them a lot and as a huge Warren Haynes fan I love anything he is involved in. But I agree that the 90's lineup was the best after the original. I know many if not will disagree with this but that's fine. I like Derek but he really forces the music into his mold. He has an original sound but it is very signature and tends to do the same sort of thing each time. I don't actually think he is a superior slide player to Warren, at least not to the extent that it even matters at all. I prefer Warren's Dreams and I prefer Warren to take the Duane part on Statesboro Blues. I know most will disagree with this so I am not looking to start a fight. It's just my opinion.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 10:41 PM
To be fair however, that time is gone. Woody is dead and Dickey is not that player anymore and he could not play effectively with the others. That's why Warren and Woody left in the first place and why Dickey was ultimately ousted.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:13 PM
Sure. I would think it would be a mistake to listen to players who are not named Duane Allman and Dickey Betts with the expectation that they will deliver the sounds of Duane Allman and Dickey Betts. There are some terrific cover bands out there that will serve those sounds up. The ABB have gone in a different direction.

I am one of the lucky ones who happens to enjoy it all! When cash allows, I will go see any configuration related to the ABB, past or present.

 

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Good to see I'm not the only one who likes the Dickey-Warren-Woody lineup. Derek Trucks certainly brings something special to whatever group he's with, but the fire of the ABB is greatly diminished these days, Exhibit A being any performance of One Way Out since 2000. I may get run out of here for saying this, but Warren is a better fit for Duane's old spot opposite to Dickey in the ABB than Derek ever has been. He hasn't quite got the talent with the slide that Derek does (nobody does...), but he's got way more of the Duane-esque soul and fire to his playing.


I tend to agree with this. Right now Derek and Warren trade the old Duane spots. Warren has not solely taken over the Dickey spot. For that reason nobody really fills the role Dickey did anymore. It is in many ways an entirely different band. I can certainly understand why some fans would not appreciate it. I do enjoy them a lot and as a huge Warren Haynes fan I love anything he is involved in. But I agree that the 90's lineup was the best after the original. I know many if not will disagree with this but that's fine. I like Derek but he really forces the music into his mold. He has an original sound but it is very signature and tends to do the same sort of thing each time. I don't actually think he is a superior slide player to Warren, at least not to the extent that it even matters at all. I prefer Warren's Dreams and I prefer Warren to take the Duane part on Statesboro Blues. I know most will disagree with this so I am not looking to start a fight. It's just my opinion.


I've posted before that i also prefer Warren's playing over Derek's.Derek is fantastic for sure,but IMO,every slide solo is the same...the licks may be different,but his sound "pattern" is always the same...at least to me it is...I really get tired of that raunchy distorted sound (the only way i can think to describe it) he get's...

 

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  posted on 12/5/2010 at 11:35 PM
I too prefer Warren's "Statesboro Blues" and "Dreams." He plays the Statesboro opening much closer to the Fillmore East version everyone is used to hearing. They're hummable signature licks that should be played the same. As for Dreams, I just love Warren's approach to the song although when Pearson plays/played it, that was some amazing **** too! I also think that Derek takes most of his slide solos in the ABB songs in the same direction almost every time.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2010 at 08:41 AM
Dickey could play on select tunes with this lineup. He could still tear up certain tunes, and it would be interesting to hear what the mix would sound like.
It's too bad it won't happen.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2010 at 08:52 AM
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Also... one other thing,.,. Dickey Betts has complete stage presence as well , he commands the stage and has lots of dripping charisma.. never boring or dull... something is always going on.... I like that...


I do wish the current line-up would show a little more audience interaction besides " how ya doin, huh" and" y'all a great crowd". But dont get me wrong - not complaining.
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  posted on 12/6/2010 at 08:52 AM
Those years with DB, WH, and AW were superb. What a great mix, and Dickey, he was the magic. This brought back some wonderful memories of shows 89-99.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2010 at 09:41 AM
It's so hard to believe it's been over 20 years since the 1989 reunion.

The new blood from Warren & Woody really helped revitalize things. Even Johnny Neel however brief his tenure was, helped get things flowing again.

 

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  posted on 12/6/2010 at 09:56 AM
one of the reasons the allman's have remained such a successful and vibrant band after all these years is that because of the many changes they are not an old band recycling their hits like old timers....they have remained creative and exciting playing new covers and changing up old songs etc.....sadly dickey plays the same songs each night he plays and he is wildly inconsistent at best.....i too am a fan of dickey and go to see him when i can but lets be honest ,given the reality of the situation replacing dickey was the best thing the band could have possibly done...in fact,i assume there would be no allman brothers today if they hadnt......i saw the last shows with dickey and have seen dozens of shows with the current band....it is no contest......if we are talking about the dickey from decades ago fine,but if we are talking recent times and reality then there is no contest!
 
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