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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 12:02 PM


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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 12:43 PM
No, it's true if it's on youtube........

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:00 PM
No matter what any comission says, we still don't know the truth about the assassination of Kennedy. I think Jim Garrison came close.....but we'll never know. We still don't know the real story behind the Lincoln assassination.....and that was 135 years ago. I suppose we just have to let it go that dead is dead.

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:02 PM
Great, you just gave him a reason to start another conspiracy thread.....

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:09 PM
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Great, you just gave him a reason to start another conspiracy thread.....


The JFK Assasination is the Mother of all Conspiracy Theories, after all...

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:46 PM
I'm waiting for the youtube of the guy running out of Ford's Theatre.....

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:49 PM
I saw a youtube the other night about Julius Caesar. He actually said "Et tu, Rockefellerus" after Caesar was killed for not joining the Roman CFR. Brutus was just the patsy.

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 01:54 PM
Well, and we all know about Judas and the silver........ I think he needed a hedge.....

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 02:32 PM
I think that it was a conspiracy by an unstable self-proclaimed Marxist who tried to defect to the Communist world and was basically rejected. After failing to kill a right wing general he decided to kill the president.

Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time. In fact he had just brought them sandwiches. This unstable loner was a deep admirer of JFK and his family and somehow in his twisted mind thought that he would be doing a good thing for the president's widow if he dispatched the assasin thereby negating the need for her to return to Dallas and testify. He did not know the assasin was going to be brought right by him but when he was, made a split second decision to pull a handgun and pop him. The assasin's assasin was so unstable as to actually be surprised when the police tackled him. He was heard to yell out "You all know me. I'm Jack Ruby." By dispatching the assasin, the assasin's assasin made possible all these insane conspiracy theories that will likely survive forever.

 

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Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time.


The Chicago Outfit knew him very well. Sam Giancana and Ruby had several phone conversations.

 

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Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time.


The Chicago Outfit knew him very well. Sam Giancana and Ruby had several phone conversations.


Show me the proof of that. I have read the 10,000 page book by Vincent Bugliosi that disproves all of that. In any event, even if they knew him in passing (for business unrelated to anything to do with murder) they would NEVER trust an important job like that to an unstable fruitcake like Jack Ruby. It just does not make any sense at all. And any study of the facts of his life would reveal this.

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 03:28 PM
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I think that it was a conspiracy by an unstable self-proclaimed Marxist who tried to defect to the Communist world and was basically rejected. After failing to kill a right wing general he decided to kill the president.

Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time. In fact he had just brought them sandwiches. This unstable loner was a deep admirer of JFK and his family and somehow in his twisted mind thought that he would be doing a good thing for the president's widow if he dispatched the assasin thereby negating the need for her to return to Dallas and testify. He did not know the assasin was going to be brought right by him but when he was, made a split second decision to pull a handgun and pop him. The assasin's assasin was so unstable as to actually be surprised when the police tackled him. He was heard to yell out "You all know me. I'm Jack Ruby." By dispatching the assasin, the assasin's assasin made possible all these insane conspiracy theories that will likely survive forever.


That's just crazy talk. If you saw a movie with this premise would you believe it?


I know. What do you call those contraptions that are so incredibly complicated as to defy reason?

 

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Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time.


The Chicago Outfit knew him very well. Sam Giancana and Ruby had several phone conversations.


Show me the proof of that. I have read the 10,000 page book by Vincent Bugliosi that disproves all of that. In any event, even if they knew him in passing (for business unrelated to anything to do with murder) they would NEVER trust an important job like that to an unstable fruitcake like Jack Ruby. It just does not make any sense at all. And any study of the facts of his life would reveal this.


I have studied organized crime history for 20 years and own over 50 books on the subject, not to mention countless hours looking at microfilm and microfiche reading old newspaper articles about it. It is truly my hobby. Believe what you want, you will anyway.

Edited to take out the unfriendly comment originally posted. Must be the holidays or something.

Anyway, when it comes to the JFK assasination, people have been writing volumes about it for decades and everyone claims to have the definitive answers.

[Edited on 11/22/2010 by Bhawk]

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 03:54 PM
Reading a 10K page book by one man doesn't exactly qualify anyone as an authority on anything. I, like bhawk, have been reading countless books about the incident and as the years go by, layer after layer is unveiled. It wasn't a lone gunman and one only has to ask why the government is trying so hard to convince us it was to start understanding there's more to the story.

By the way....for anyone wanting to ponder another connection....Bush the first was good friends with the Hinkley family. Take it from there......

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 04:17 PM
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http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Freeing_the_JFK_Files

Despite the FOIA, we won't be privy to any documents not already destroyed.

year 2017-CIA documents
year 2029-House Select Committee on Assassinations

If it was a conspiracy, any conspirators are likely to be dead or near death by that time.


Arlen Specter is still around...

Edited for spelling, dammit...

[Edited on 11/22/2010 by Bhawk]

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 04:40 PM
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I saw a youtube the other night about Julius Caesar. He actually said "Et tu, Rockefellerus" after Caesar was killed for not joining the Roman CFR. Brutus was just the patsy.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 04:53 PM
Yeah, that crazy youtube. It's not like it was the actual footage of the event. Oh, it was. Well, it's not like they showed it on MSNBC. Then I would believe it.

Maybe is somebody would write a book about it or a newspaper article, then I would believe it.

Forget about this stuff that is actual footage or in the persons own words. Everything on youtube is crap!

 

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Yeah, that crazy youtube. It's not like it was the actual footage of the event. Oh, it was. Well, it's not like they showed it on MSNBC. Then I would believe it.


I don't have the time to watch 10% of the youtubes you post. I haven't watched MSNBC since I can't remember when.

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 04:58 PM
I didn't know the actual footage had little arrows pointing to secret service guys.....it also seemed like they just kept going around in circles......

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 08:33 PM
He wanted to get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank, he was going to announce that in a couple of weeks, that's why some people (the power elite) had him executed. Haven't you seen the film footage where the first thing Jackie said when it happened was "they killed him". "THEY". She knew there were people who wanted him gone because of what he wanted to do. You can all say, oh but they caught the guy who did it. Sure, you think he could not have been brainwashed? (if you do think that, then you don't know enough about the capability of mind control and those who are trained to do that do some research on MK Ultra etc.) Never underestimate your govt. They can do anything to anyone, anyplace, anytime.

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 11:03 PM
Anyone know where bush and Cheney were that day?

Just saying!!!!

 

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  posted on 11/22/2010 at 11:54 PM
G.H.W. Bush can't remember? I was 8 years old then and I can clearly remember where I was. Some weird stuff in this thread.

 

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G.H.W. Bush can't remember? I was 8 years old then and I can clearly remember where I was. Some weird stuff in this thread.


and check this out...memorandum near the bottom.

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm


TMI!

I'll leave it up to you guys. Sounds like a few of the folks here have really researched this assassination and have differing views.

 

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Unfortunately there was another unstable guy right there in Dallas who was one of those weirdo loner types that like to hang around the police and they were used to him coming and going all the time.


The Chicago Outfit knew him very well. Sam Giancana and Ruby had several phone conversations.


Show me the proof of that. I have read the 10,000 page book by Vincent Bugliosi that disproves all of that. In any event, even if they knew him in passing (for business unrelated to anything to do with murder) they would NEVER trust an important job like that to an unstable fruitcake like Jack Ruby. It just does not make any sense at all. And any study of the facts of his life would reveal this.


I have studied organized crime history for 20 years and own over 50 books on the subject, not to mention countless hours looking at microfilm and microfiche reading old newspaper articles about it. It is truly my hobby. Believe what you want, you will anyway.

Edited to take out the unfriendly comment originally posted. Must be the holidays or something.

Anyway, when it comes to the JFK assasination, people have been writing volumes about it for decades and everyone claims to have the definitive answers.

[Edited on 11/22/2010 by Bhawk]


Why would you evenmake an unfriendly comment in the first place? I do not claim to be an expert on anything. I read Bugliosis book and he IS an expert. I trust and respect him. He has convinced me meyond any doubt that Oswald is guilty and acted alone. Did you happen to read his book?

 

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  posted on 11/23/2010 at 02:06 PM
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Reading a 10K page book by one man doesn't exactly qualify anyone as an authority on anything. I, like bhawk, have been reading countless books about the incident and as the years go by, layer after layer is unveiled. It wasn't a lone gunman and one only has to ask why the government is trying so hard to convince us it was to start understanding there's more to the story.

By the way....for anyone wanting to ponder another connection....Bush the first was good friends with the Hinkley family. Take it from there......




Did you read the Bugliosi book? If you disagree with his arguments I would be interested to here how and why. I did not say I was an expert. I never said that. I simply said what I believe based on a source I have read.

 

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