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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 10:04 AM
Good one Charles. TSA (the federal government equalivant of "Barney Fife" law enforcement) is a monument to the stupidity of "political correctness" and they do little to protect America from terrorist. Basically, they're an expensive "dog and pony" show staged to create the illusion of security. A "real terrorist" who's intent is to create an "terror event" in the airport, or on a plane, can get around the TSA "security system". Seriously, how often do the people who clean, fuel, provide meals for the various planes have to go through the type of security check that TSA does to the general flying public? Truth is most of these positions are filled with people who don't make very much and are from "third world" backgrounds and quite often their "background check" is miminal at best.

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Ah, the airport, where modern folk heroes are made. The airport, where that inspired flight attendant did what everyone who's ever been in the spam-in-a-can crush of a flying aluminum tube - where we collectively pretend that a clutch of peanuts is a meal and a seat cushion is a "flotation device" - has always dreamed of doing: pull the lever, blow the door, explode the chute, grab a beer, slide to the tarmac and walk through the gates to the sanity that lies beyond. Not since Rick and Louis disappeared into the Casablanca fog headed for the Free French garrison in Brazzaville has a stroll on the tarmac thrilled so many.

Who cares that the crazed steward got arrested, pleaded guilty to sundry charges, and probably was a rude, unpleasant SOB to begin with? Bonnie and Clyde were psychopaths, yet what child of the '60s did not fall in love with Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty?

And now three months later, the newest airport hero arrives. His genius was not innovation in getting out, but deconstructing the entire process of getting in. John Tyner, cleverly armed with an iPhone to give YouTube immortality to the encounter, took exception to the TSA guard about to give him the benefit of Homeland Security's newest brainstorm - the upgraded, full-palm, up the groin, all-body pat-down. In a stroke, the young man ascended to myth, or at least the next edition of Bartlett's, warning the agent not to "touch my junk."

Not quite the 18th-century elegance of "Don't Tread on Me," but the age of Twitter has a different cadence from the age of the musket. What the modern battle cry lacks in archaic charm, it makes up for in full-body syllabic punch.

Don't touch my junk is the anthem of the modern man, the Tea Party patriot, the late-life libertarian, the midterm election voter. Don't touch my junk, Obamacare - get out of my doctor's examining room, I'm wearing a paper-thin gown slit down the back. Don't touch my junk, Google - Street View is cool, but get off my street. Don't touch my junk, you airport security goon - my package belongs to no one but me, and do you really think I'm a Nigerian nut job preparing for my 72-virgin orgy by blowing my johnson to kingdom come?

In "Up in the Air," that ironic take on the cramped freneticism of airport life, George Clooney explains why he always follows Asians in the security line:

"They pack light, travel efficiently, and they got a thing for slip-on shoes, God love 'em."

"That's racist!"

"I'm like my mother. I stereotype. It's faster."

That riff is a crowd-pleaser because everyone knows that the entire apparatus of the security line is a national homage to political correctness. Nowhere do more people meekly acquiesce to more useless inconvenience and needless indignity for less purpose. Wizened seniors strain to untie their shoes; beltless salesmen struggle comically to hold up their pants; 3-year-olds scream while being searched insanely for explosives - when everyone, everyone, knows that none of these people is a threat to anyone.

The ultimate idiocy is the full-body screening of the pilot. The pilot doesn't need a bomb or box cutter to bring down a plane. All he has to do is drive it into the water, like the EgyptAir pilot who crashed his plane off Nantucket while intoning "I rely on God," killing all on board.

But we must not bring that up. We pretend that we go through this nonsense as a small price paid to ensure the safety of air travel. Rubbish. This has nothing to do with safety - 95 percent of these inspections, searches, shoe removals and pat-downs are ridiculously unnecessary. The only reason we continue to do this is that people are too cowed to even question the absurd taboo against profiling - when the profile of the airline attacker is narrow, concrete, uniquely definable and universally known. So instead of seeking out terrorists, we seek out tubes of gel in stroller pouches.

The junk man's revolt marks the point at which a docile public declares that it will tolerate only so much idiocy. Metal detector? Back-of-the-hand pat? Okay. We will swallow hard and pretend airline attackers are randomly distributed in the population.

But now you insist on a full-body scan, a fairly accurate representation of my naked image to be viewed by a total stranger? Or alternatively, the full-body pat-down, which, as the junk man correctly noted, would be sexual assault if performed by anyone else?

This time you have gone too far, Big Bro'. The sleeping giant awakes. Take my shoes, remove my belt, waste my time and try my patience. But don't touch my junk.




[Edited on 11/19/2010 by sibwlkr]

 
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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 12:22 PM
That's right, don't touch anybody's junk!

This is the tape of the incident. It is 15 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UqM56e-kRA&feature=related

As you can hear he was on the line for the metal detector with 80 other people in line with him then he was pulled off that line according to the TSA person for "ait screening", they did not tell him why he was pulled out and nobody else was. They refused to let him go thru the metal detector like everybody else even when he asked more than one additional time.

One of the employees asks him if Dallas was his final destination and he says no, Rapid City was and they ask if that was also on American Airlines and he says yes, and then he is asked where his boarding pass for that flight is. He tells them they never gave it to him, he thinks they would give him that when he got to Dallas. Homeland may have had plans for him from the beginning which is why he never had his ticket for the 2nd leg of his flight. They did not want to tell him why he was selected for the additional screening. 500,000 people on the govt. watch list, he may be on that and they just did not want to say that.

Then when he wants to leave the airport another official begins asking him to 'co-operate with him' Tyner gets annoyed and asks why he cannot leave the airport and the official tells him, 'look it will be better for you when we bring the case against you if you have cooperated with us'.

Interview with Mr. Tyner.

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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 01:18 PM
"one man's junk is another man's treasure"

 

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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 01:23 PM
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"one man's junk is another man's treasure"


OMG....you could wait a lifetime and never get to use anything this funny and appropriatie! Well done!!!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 05:57 PM
It won't be funny for long Ann.

Airports consider congressman's call to ditch TSA
(AP) 1 day ago

ATLANTA (AP) In a climate of Internet campaigns to shun airport pat-downs and veteran pilots suing over their treatment by government screeners, some airports are considering another way to show dissatisfaction: Ditching TSA agents altogether.

Federal law allows airports to opt for screeners from the private sector instead. The push is being led by a powerful Florida congressman who's a longtime critic of the Transportation Security Administration and counts among his campaign contributors some of the companies who might take the TSA's place.

Furor over airline passenger checks has grown as more airports have installed scanners that produce digital images of the body's contours, and the anger intensified when TSA added a more intrusive style of pat-down recently for those who opt out of the full-body scans. Some travelers are using the Internet to organize protests aimed at the busy travel days next week surrounding Thanksgiving.

For Republican Rep. John Mica of Florida, the way to make travelers feel more comfortable would be to kick TSA employees out of their posts at the ends of the snaking security lines. This month, he wrote letters to nation's 100 busiest airports asking that they request private security guards instead.

"I think we could use half the personnel and streamline the system," Mica said Wednesday, calling the TSA a bloated bureaucracy.

Mica is the ranking Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. Once the new Congress convenes in January, the lawmaker is expected lead the committee.

Companies that could gain business if airports heed Mica's call have helped fill his campaign coffers. In the past 13 years, Mica has received almost $81,000 in campaign donations from political action committees and executives connected to some of the private contractors already at 16 U.S. airports.

Private contractors are not a cure-all for passengers aggrieved about taking off their shoes for security checks, passing through full-body scanners or getting hand-frisked. For example, contractors must follow all TSA-mandated security procedures, including hand patdowns when necessary.

Still, the top executive at the Orlando-area's second-largest airport, Orlando Sanford International Airport, said he plans to begin the process of switching to private screeners in January as long as a few remaining concerns can be met. The airport is within Mica's district, and the congressman wrote his letter after hearing about its experiences.

CEO Larry Dale said members of the board that runs Sanford were impressed after watching private screeners at airports in Rochester, N.Y., and Jackson Hole, Wyo. He said TSA agents could do better at customer service.

"Some of them are a little testy," said Dale, whose airport handles 2 million passengers a year. "And we work hard to get passengers and airlines. And to have it undone by a personality problem?"

To the south, the city's main airport, Orlando International, said it's reviewing Mica's proposal, although it has some questions about how the system would work with the 34 million passengers it handles each year. In Georgia, Macon City Councilor Erick Erickson, whose committee oversees the city's small airport, wants private screeners there.

Erickson called it a protest move in an interview.

"I am a frequent air traveler and I have experienced ... TSA agents who have let the power go to their head," Erickson said. "You can complain about those people, but very rarely does the bureaucracy work quickly enough to remove those people from their positions."

TSA officials would select and pay the contractors who run airport security. But Dale thinks a private contractor would be more responsive since the contractor would need local support to continue its business with the airport.

"Competition drives accountability, it drives efficiency, it drives a particular approach to your airport," Dale said. "That company is just going to be looking at you. They're not going to be driven out of Washington, they will be driven out of here."

San Francisco International Airport has used private screeners since the formation of the TSA and remains the largest to do so.

The airport believed a private contractor would have more flexibility to supplement staff during busy periods with part-time employees, airport spokesman Mike McCarron said. Also, the city's high cost of living had made it difficult in the past to recruit federal employees to run immigration and customs stations a problem the airport didn't want at security checkpoints.

"You get longer lines," McCarron said.

TSA spokesman Greg Soule would not respond directly Mica's letter, but reiterated the nation's roughly 460 commercial airports have the option of applying to use private contractors.

Companies that provide airport security are contributors to Mica's campaigns, although some donations came before those companies won government contracts. The Lockheed Martin Corp. Employees' Political Action Committee has given $36,500 to Mica since 1997. A Lockheed firm won the security contract in Sioux Falls, S.D. in 2005 and the contract for San Francisco the following year.

Raytheon Company's PAC has given Mica $33,500 since 1999. A Raytheon subsidiary began providing checkpoint screenings at Key West International Airport in 2007.

Firstline Transportation Security Inc.'s PAC has donated $4,500 to the Florida congressman since 2004. FirstLine has been screening baggage and has been responsible for passenger checkpoints at the Kansas City International Airport since 2006, as well as the Gallup Municipal Airport and the Roswell Industrial Air Center in New Mexico, operating at both since 2007.

Since 2006, Mica has received $2,000 from FirstLine President Keith Wolken and $1,700 from Gerald Berry, president of Covenant Aviation Security. Covenant works with Lockheed to provide security at airports in Sioux Falls and San Francisco.

Mica spokesman Justin Harclerode said the contributions never improperly influenced the congressman, who said he was unaware Raytheon or Lockheed were in the screening business.

"They certainly never contacted him about providing screening," Harclerode said.

Anger over the screenings hasn't just come from passengers. Two veteran commercial airline pilots asked a federal judge this week to stop the whole-body scans and the new pat-down procedures, saying it violates their civil rights.

The pilots, Michael S. Roberts of Memphis and Ann Poe of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., have refused to participate in either screening method and, as a result, will not fly out of airports that use these methods, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Washington.

Roberts is a pilot with ExpressJet Airlines and is on unpaid administrative leave because of his refusal to enter the whole-body scanners. Poe flies for Continental Airlines and will continue to take off work as long as the existing regulations are in place.

"In her eyes, the pat-down is a physical molestation and the WBI scanner is not only intrusive, degrading and potentially dangerous, but poses a real and substantial threat to medical privacy," the lawsuit states.

Schneider reported from Orlando. Associated Press Writer Adrian Sainz in Memphis and AP Business Writer Samantha Bomkamp in New York contributed to this report.
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Remarks: If the TSA is ousted as the service providers and "private contractors" are brought in, guess who that can be? Blackwater or one of their subsidiary companies. Want to be screened by them?

 

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  posted on 11/19/2010 at 06:18 PM
What he wrote was funny in that he was able to use an unexpected common expression for this particular situation. What's going on isn't funny.....but what he wrote was.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2010 at 11:49 AM
I thought the best part was when the TSA guy said that it wasn't sexual assault, and then the guy being frisked said, only because your the United States government. Just wait til the point that when you go across state lines that you have checkpoints and that you have to show your papers.

If you had told me 20 years ago that there would be full body pat downs to get on an airplane and there would be cameras on every street corner, I would have told you that this was America, not Russia, and that couldn't happen here. Welcome to the new Amerika.

 

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I thought the best part was when the TSA guy said that it wasn't sexual assault, and then the guy being frisked said, only because your the United States government. Just wait til the point that when you go across state lines that you have checkpoints and that you have to show your papers.

If you had told me 20 years ago that there would be full body pat downs to get on an airplane and there would be cameras on every street corner, I would have told you that this was America, not Russia, and that couldn't happen here. Welcome to the new Amerika.


What would you have said 20 myears ago if I told you that hijackers would crash 2 jets into bot World Trade Center towers and kill more than 3000 people?


Good point. The thing is that Krauthammer is not saying we should go back to the pre 9/11 ways. He is saying we should cut the Kubacki theater and politically correct nonsense and use sensible profiling.

 

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Heck, writers like Tom Clancy have been portraying similar scenarios for at least the past 20 years. I'd have figured you were just well read.

 

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  posted on 11/20/2010 at 04:20 PM
Al Jones from Dow Jones Newsires in Denver had a bright idea, people could just fly naked with no carry on luggage, then there would be no need for scanners or pat downs. Just take off your clothes once you get on the plane, buckle up, and put them back on when you get off. Problem solved.

 

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I might fly more if they do that.

 

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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 12:30 AM
I have just returned from Boston. We departed from the W. Palm airport. They have one of those new scanners in place but were not using it yet.
I have an artificial knee with titanium and I set off the alarms going through regular screening. I always get patted down. But this time it was an agressive pat-down.
It was unpleasant and intrusive.

Sergio and the majority of travelers went through the regular screening and were not subjected to the new method.

The people who set off the scanner are those with artificial joints and pacemakers. Mostly the older generation. They do select people at random for the new pat-down also.

At the Logan Airport in Boston I set off the alarms and they directed me to the new scanner. It took a few seconds. It was no big deal.
I don't have any complaints about it.

 

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If someone doesn't like it, they have the option of not flying.
 

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quote:
I have just returned from Boston. We departed from the W. Palm airport. They have one of those new scanners in place but were not using it yet.
I have an artificial knee with titanium and I set off the alarms going through regular screening. I always get patted down. But this time it was an agressive pat-down.
It was unpleasant and intrusive.

Sergio and the majority of travelers went through the regular screening and were not subjected to the new method.

The people who set off the scanner are those with artificial joints and pacemakers. Mostly the older generation. They do select people at random for the new pat-down also.

At the Logan Airport in Boston I set off the alarms and they directed me to the new scanner. It took a few seconds. It was no big deal.
I don't have any complaints about it.


That's why I quit flying, the plates and screws in my neck sets off the alarms.

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I have just returned from Boston. We departed from the W. Palm airport. They have one of those new scanners in place but were not using it yet.
I have an artificial knee with titanium and I set off the alarms going through regular screening. I always get patted down. But this time it was an agressive pat-down.
It was unpleasant and intrusive.

Sergio and the majority of travelers went through the regular screening and were not subjected to the new method.

The people who set off the scanner are those with artificial joints and pacemakers. Mostly the older generation. They do select people at random for the new pat-down also.

At the Logan Airport in Boston I set off the alarms and they directed me to the new scanner. It took a few seconds. It was no big deal.
I don't have any complaints about it.


That's why I quit flying, the plates and screws in my neck sets off the alarms.

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If someone doesn't like it, they have the option of not flying.


Why should people have to be molested or radiated with people looking at their naked bodies in a country that claims it's people are free? That's the point.

 

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Good one Charles. TSA (the federal government equalivant of "Barney Fife" law enforcement) is a monument to the stupidity of "political correctness" and they do little to protect America from terrorist. Basically, they're an expensive "dog and pony" show staged to create the illusion of security. A "real terrorist" who's intent is to create an "terror event" in the airport, or on a plane, can get around the TSA "security system". Seriously, how often do the people who clean, fuel, provide meals for the various planes have to go through the type of security check that TSA does to the general flying public? Truth is most of these positions are filled with people who don't make very much and are from "third world" backgrounds and quite often their "background check" is miminal at best.

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Don't touch my junk
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, November 19, 2010

Ah, the airport, where modern folk heroes are made. The airport, where that inspired flight attendant did what everyone who's ever been in the spam-in-a-can crush of a flying aluminum tube - where we collectively pretend that a clutch of peanuts is a meal and a seat cushion is a "flotation device" - has always dreamed of doing: pull the lever, blow the door, explode the chute, grab a beer, slide to the tarmac and walk through the gates to the sanity that lies beyond. Not since Rick and Louis disappeared into the Casablanca fog headed for the Free French garrison in Brazzaville has a stroll on the tarmac thrilled so many.

Who cares that the crazed steward got arrested, pleaded guilty to sundry charges, and probably was a rude, unpleasant SOB to begin with? Bonnie and Clyde were psychopaths, yet what child of the '60s did not fall in love with Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty?

And now three months later, the newest airport hero arrives. His genius was not innovation in getting out, but deconstructing the entire process of getting in. John Tyner, cleverly armed with an iPhone to give YouTube immortality to the encounter, took exception to the TSA guard about to give him the benefit of Homeland Security's newest brainstorm - the upgraded, full-palm, up the groin, all-body pat-down. In a stroke, the young man ascended to myth, or at least the next edition of Bartlett's, warning the agent not to "touch my junk."

Not quite the 18th-century elegance of "Don't Tread on Me," but the age of Twitter has a different cadence from the age of the musket. What the modern battle cry lacks in archaic charm, it makes up for in full-body syllabic punch.

Don't touch my junk is the anthem of the modern man, the Tea Party patriot, the late-life libertarian, the midterm election voter. Don't touch my junk, Obamacare - get out of my doctor's examining room, I'm wearing a paper-thin gown slit down the back. Don't touch my junk, Google - Street View is cool, but get off my street. Don't touch my junk, you airport security goon - my package belongs to no one but me, and do you really think I'm a Nigerian nut job preparing for my 72-virgin orgy by blowing my johnson to kingdom come?

In "Up in the Air," that ironic take on the cramped freneticism of airport life, George Clooney explains why he always follows Asians in the security line:

"They pack light, travel efficiently, and they got a thing for slip-on shoes, God love 'em."

"That's racist!"

"I'm like my mother. I stereotype. It's faster."

That riff is a crowd-pleaser because everyone knows that the entire apparatus of the security line is a national homage to political correctness. Nowhere do more people meekly acquiesce to more useless inconvenience and needless indignity for less purpose. Wizened seniors strain to untie their shoes; beltless salesmen struggle comically to hold up their pants; 3-year-olds scream while being searched insanely for explosives - when everyone, everyone, knows that none of these people is a threat to anyone.

The ultimate idiocy is the full-body screening of the pilot. The pilot doesn't need a bomb or box cutter to bring down a plane. All he has to do is drive it into the water, like the EgyptAir pilot who crashed his plane off Nantucket while intoning "I rely on God," killing all on board.

But we must not bring that up. We pretend that we go through this nonsense as a small price paid to ensure the safety of air travel. Rubbish. This has nothing to do with safety - 95 percent of these inspections, searches, shoe removals and pat-downs are ridiculously unnecessary. The only reason we continue to do this is that people are too cowed to even question the absurd taboo against profiling - when the profile of the airline attacker is narrow, concrete, uniquely definable and universally known. So instead of seeking out terrorists, we seek out tubes of gel in stroller pouches.

The junk man's revolt marks the point at which a docile public declares that it will tolerate only so much idiocy. Metal detector? Back-of-the-hand pat? Okay. We will swallow hard and pretend airline attackers are randomly distributed in the population.

But now you insist on a full-body scan, a fairly accurate representation of my naked image to be viewed by a total stranger? Or alternatively, the full-body pat-down, which, as the junk man correctly noted, would be sexual assault if performed by anyone else?

This time you have gone too far, Big Bro'. The sleeping giant awakes. Take my shoes, remove my belt, waste my time and try my patience. But don't touch my junk.




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UqM56e-kRA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYykxMupiT0&feature=related

And the bigger question is, if they are going to touch one person's junk, they should touch everybody's because if the metal detector is not enough, how are they letting the other 79 people get thru who could have something hidden in their groin or underwear, when they only screen 1 person out of 80 like this?

Mr. Tyner could not understand why he was pulled out of the metal detector line and nobody else was. I think I know why.

It could be he was on the Secure Flight Program list as a Selectee for Enhanced Screening which is now done 72 hours before you even get to the airport. That's why he was not given his boarding pass for the 2nd leg of his trip from Dallas to Rapid City South Dakota.

That's right, they decide 72 hours before you even get there if YOU will be going thru enhanced screening, it is NOT random at all. It is profiling that they do not want to admit to.

http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/layers/secureflight/

Under the Secure Flight program, passengers making a reservation are required to provide their full name (as it appears on the identification document used when traveling), date of birth, and gender. TSA matches this information against government watch lists to:

Identify known and suspected terrorists.
Prevent individuals on the No Fly List from boarding an aircraft.
Identify individuals on the Selectee List for enhanced screening.
Facilitate passenger air travel.
Protect individuals' privacy.

What's Next for this country and how far will it go?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLZq2iaMpXY&feature=related







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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 01:26 PM
Something else has come up, this has been in effect since only the past month. The Airlines collects and reports data about you to the TSA 72 hours before your flight, so when you get to the airport, you may find your flight is cancelled or that you are not allowed to fly based on what could be false flags and false info.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/travelers_check/archives/2010/10/airl ine_security_change_spurs_a_scramble_for_passenger_data.html

 

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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 02:00 PM
Ron Paul has created legislation called American Traveler Dignity Act which says that the government cannot do things that other people cannot do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwsdq69AHnw

 

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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 02:07 PM
Gina said....
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. Just take off your clothes once you get on the plane, buckle up, and put them back on when you get off . Problem solved.


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The thing is that Krauthammer is not saying we should go back to the pre 9/11 ways. He is saying we should cut the Kubacki theater and politically correct nonsense and use sensible profiling.


Exactly. Truth is I'm not much of a Krauthammer fan (Charles kisses the neo-conservative asses way to much) but nevertheless, every now and then, he get's things right (no pun intended). And this is definely one of those times.

 

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I was being sarcastic, the indignity people are going thru cannot be allowed to continue. people assume it is just a little inconvenience, but when you look at people putting their belongings in trays, taking off their shoes even that looks like what they did at Auschwitz before they totally stripped them and sent them to the showers to be gassed to death.

I realize that is a dramatic comparison, but people being degraded, desensitized, with their rights being taken away begins as a slow process. The process began here 2001. No matter what they wanted to do, people were told they just wanted to make you safer and nobody questioned it, that is why it has gotten to this point. If they do not have the technology to do non invasive screenings, let them develop it.



 

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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 02:52 PM
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The thing is that Krauthammer is not saying we should go back to the pre 9/11 ways. He is saying we should cut the Kubacki theater and politically correct nonsense and use sensible profiling.


Exactly. Truth is I'm not much of a Krauthammer fan (Charles kisses the neo-conservative asses way to much) but nevertheless, every now and then, he get's things right (no pun intended). And this is definely one of those times.


I agree that this is among Krauthammer's more lucid, reasonable pieces, but of course he undermines his argument with the suggestion that as a white person he is entitled to less-thorough screenings than those scary dark-skinned people ("do you really think I'm a Nigerian nut job..."). Even when he comes close to penning a persuasive column, he ends up sabotaging his own argument, because he's a terrible person.

 

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  posted on 11/21/2010 at 02:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FGirk5xyY&feature=related

at 8:10 they see all the belongings of the people who were already sent to the showers and have no more need for their clothes.

 

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