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  posted on 11/1/2010 at 11:48 PM
All differences aside. We all need to get out and vote tomorrow. It's your civic duty. People died for you to vote. Don't waste such a valuable freedom.
 
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  posted on 11/1/2010 at 11:50 PM
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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 12:04 AM

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 12:26 AM
I'll be voting.....it's like spitting in the wind around here, but I'll be voting.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:32 AM
Your vote is worthless.

The corporations (Bankers) own both parties. They love to give you the illusion that your vote means something, when in reality, it means nothing. Until they get rid of the lobbyist and the fed, no real change will ever take place. There is only one party and they don't care about you and I.

But if it gives you the warm fuzzies and makes you feel like you have a choice, go for it!

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:42 AM
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I'll be voting.....it's like spitting in the wind around here, but I'll be voting.


I feel your pain.

Still, I remember a theory from one of my poli sci classes that even losing votes pulls political action toward your point of view. If that does not move you, I believe non-voters have zero right to complain, and I intend to maintain my right to bitch and moan!

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:43 AM
You're right Otie....and voting doesn't give me the warm fuzzies....but I feel obligated to exercize the right so many people have died to give us. I know my vote doesn't make a difference around here.....but I love those 'I Voted Stickers.'

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:49 AM
So I should pick the least of two evils? No thanks.

Just because you choose not to decide, does not mean you have not made a choice.

Once they put up a worthy candidate, I will vote. Until then I am not going to make some weak choice like they made America do when they put McCain and Obama for or POTUS. Those choices were horrible. I would rather not vote than cast a vote for corporatocracy and the sham they have made out these elections that really mean nothing in the long run.

A vote for the dems means big government and unlimited spending and more war. A vote for the right means more big government, unlimited spending and more war.

No thanks.

[Edited on 11/2/2010 by jerryphilbob]

 

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There is only one man worthy of the DUDE in Chief.



 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 02:58 AM
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I'll be voting.....it's like spitting in the wind around here, but I'll be voting.


Surprise. I'll be voting for Ron Sparks tomorrow. Bentley seems like a snake in the grass and gives me a case of the willies. Something creepy about him.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 04:04 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325694/Mid-term-elections-2010-Car l-Paladino-invokes-death-son-Patrick-New-York-Governor-race.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu59lXm7XTM

Some links on some of the other NY Candidates:

Mayor Duffy is running on the ticket with Andrew Cuomo and is impressive, but you don't vote for him individually, if you vote for Cuomo you get him also.

http://www.mayorduffy.com/EconomicDevelopment.cfm

Gloria Matera is running on the ticket with Howie Hawkins.
Gloria Mattera Green party candidate for Lt. Gov. – NY wants to build 20 more nuclear power plants.

http://www.howiehawkins.com/2010/issues.html

She reached out to the Muslim communities in her district who were being targeted and joined fellow peace activists in opposing the bombing of Afghanistan in the aftermath of the September 11 terror attacks. Challenging the Democratic incumbent in 2003, Mattera placed second with close to 20% of the vote by continuing her campaign theme of the billions spent on war abroad would be better served by providing health care, housing and union-scale jobs here at home.

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NEW YORK, May 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Attorney Carl E. Person, nominee of the Libertarian Party (4/24/10) and probable nominee of the Green Party (5/15/10) announced today that he is seeking the Republican Nomination for NYS Attorney General, to be the only candidate capable of defeating the Democratic nominee -- with specific campaign promises that Person as Attorney General could and would fulfill his own promises without the help of the other offices of government.

http://www.carlperson4nyag.com/node/17

http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20100514/NY05127)

I can't vote for Peterson because his new sheriff ideas are just too much. It's like Blackwater would be in the days of the Wild West.

Attorney General:

http://www.dandonovan.org/the_issues.php
http://www.ericschneiderman.com/issues?id=0008

This one's tough because they are both good. Donovan seems like a hardworking guy with a basic good set of values, but Schneiderman has the experience. He's already done a lot, he helped repeal the Rockefeller drug laws, took on the MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority). I think he knows how to get things done and in this time of crisis in NY, being a visionary is not enough. I have to vote for Eric.

Who else do you have to select?
State Comptroller - I think Harry Wilson is best qualified.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Wilson_(businessman)

Thomas DiNapoli is also good, I just like Harry better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_DiNapoli
http://www.osc.state.ny.us/about/bio.htm

You have to select two US Senators.
Your choices are Chuck Schumer, Jay Townsend, Colia Clark and Randy Credico.
I like Credico except that he wants to legalize marijuana. I oppose that. I would favor decriminalizing it but NOT legalization, so I can't vote for Randy. I like Jay Townsend also. What about Chuck Schumer? He is a good guy, BUT he opposes civilian trials for Guantanamo detainees, he wants them just tried in military tribunals, I oppose that. This convicting people on secret evidence in secret courts is wrong and on that basis I will not vote for Chuck.

http://www.townsendfornewyork.com/

The next Senator for 6 year term you have to choose, you have a bunch of good candidates. Kirsten Gillibrand seems like a nice lady but there are a few things. President Obama telephoned Congressman Steve Israel last year when he wanted to compete with her for the Senate seat that Hillary vacated. President Obama told Steve Israel he wanted Gillbrand to have that seat so Israel held back and did not compete. Andrew Cuomo has recently said that BIG things are in store for Kirsten Gillibrand. So it appears there are some behind the scenes things going on with her. I like Obama but I do not like backroom poliitcal deals.

Joe DioGuardi is good, he founded Truth in Govt. that exposes government Budgeting and reporting practices. he wrote a book in 1992 "Unaccountable Congress: It Doesn't Add Up". He's a CPA who was in the House of Representatives for 4 years and saw first hand what is wrong in Washington.

Bruce Blakeman is another good candidate. He thinks govt. is too involved in people's lives, he has a degree in Homeland Security Studies, and served on the county legislature down here from 1996-1999. J

John Clifton is a freelance write and former Navyman. He wants to get us out of wars, abolish the Federal Reserve, and get back to a country based on the Constitution.

Joseph Huff is from The Rent is 2 Damn High Party and he is a good candidate also. He does e-commerce technology and wants to use unspent stimulus dollars to create jobs. E Commerce jobs might let people work from home .

Cecile Lawrence from the Green party is also really good. She would stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, close 50% of the military bases in other countries, cancel NAFTA, and the CAFTA (Dominican Central American Free Trade Agreement).

Vivia Morgan wants to legalize pot, she is running on Kristin Davis's Prohibition Party line. She's a construction worker in Brooklyn. You won't get my vote Vivia.

You got to pick 4 State Supreme Court Justices.

You have to pick 3 County Court Judges.

You have to pick 2 Family Court Judges.

You Have to pick a town District Court Judge.

You have to pick a Congressman.
I am not going to make remarks other than I do NOT support those who favor private militias being dispatched on our streets in the event of some disaster. No Blackwater troops and there are some who HAVE voted in favor of this, so you better check your Congressman's position on this. The a** you save may very well be your own from illegal seizure and placement in a concentration camp in a time of national emergency. Do not give them the right to do that. If your Congressman coted for private militias vote him out of office.

You have to pick your State Assemblyman. Most of those candidates are good.

You have County Clerk, County Comptroller.

And in some townships you have Propositions to vote on as well.

So if you haven't checked it all out yet, you should get started.















[Edited on 11/2/2010 by gina]

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:36 PM
I agree with the original post. It's actually quite amazing how many people don't vote. I was stunned to see a recent number that said only about 50% of the people will vote, or it might have even been 45%.
 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 01:44 PM
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All differences aside. We all need to get out and vote tomorrow. It's your civic duty. People died for you to vote. Don't waste such a valuable freedom.


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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 03:16 PM
As disgusted as people are with how things are going in their state or the country, the only way to try to make that change is to get out and vote. Sure a lot of the candidates are multi millionaires whose alliance is to their political party, but as one creative bumpersticker read:

Reboot the Economy, Vote Out the Incumbents.

When I look at any candidates challenging the people already there, I look for specific ideas on what they would do to change things, if they can't give you specifics then it is just more of the same.

We have a hotly contested gubernatorial race going on. Andrew Cuomo is Mario Cuomo's son. Mario was a beloved governor here so based on that a lot of people will vote for his son. One of my friend's knows him and says he's a good, decent, honest guy, his opponent has been loud and untraditional, but I like him anyway. Carl Paladino does not want to be a career politician, he wants to go there, do his 4 years fix what needs fixing and then move on with his life. That's an interesting thing. We've never heard that from a politician before, they all want to be in the system forever.

Some of the issues:

Andrew says he will cap property taxes consolidating local governments. Require public disclosure of lawmaker's outside income, outlaw individuals and corporations making political donations in return for favors and contracts awarded to their friends, develop public financing campaigns and lower the limit of how much people can contribute towards political campaigns, take away the state pensions of corrupt political officials who are convicted of crimes. He wants a new tier system in pensions to deal with the issue of employees who work large amounts of overtime in their last 3 years on the job to get a higher pension, create a board of trustees to oversee state retirement fund's investment portfolio. He wants to develop a high speed rail system and expand Newburgh Airport. He wants to collect cigarette taxes from the Indians selling cigarettes to non Indians, he wants to provide a $3,000 tax credit to businesses that hire unemployed workers. He is in favor of gay marriage, abortion rights.

Carl is a no nonsense candidate. He agrees with Cuomo's property tax cap, he also wants a 2 year freeze on property taxes (no increases). He wants to eliminate all pensions for NEW state legislators, disclose the source of outside income, outlaw steering committee members putting funds in relatives names. He wants a special prosecutor to investigate conflicts in state govt. He wants 8 year term limits for state lawmakers. He wants to move the state pension system from traditional to a defined contribution system where workers pay into a 401K with the state matching those funds, and make their pension amount based on their total income over their entire career NOT just the last 3 years. He also favors collecting the taxes from the Indians on the cigarette sales. He opposes abortion, gay marriage. One the most criticized proposals he has is his Dignity Corps ideas. He would tear down the gates and cell doors of prisons, send the prisoners to other places or consolidate them into a couple of facilities and use the other buildings to renovate, retrofit and make housing available for those who are on welfare, homeless, jobless. The centers would provide housing, jobs training and placement assistance. His idea is that instead of going to unemployment, go to an employment center that will give you a job or some work to do in the public sector while you get a check. Some see it as a slave labor workforce, but I don't think that is his intent.

The Welfare to Work program now in place is a slave labor force, they send welfare recipients to companies to allegedly earn their welfare check and develop new skills. In reality they don't develop new skills, they just get used to do all the sh*twork. I know because we do that where I work. I always feel sorry for the people they send, they just get used and exploited doing the jobs that everyone else hates. Usually after 2-3 months they go and get 2 or more low paying lousy jobs and leave.

At least Paladino's plan would help people develop skills so they could get better jobs. I don't think it is about incarcerating unemployed people or welfare people. It is recognizing that for many there is no way out of the bad neighborhood they live in. Where can they go for training for a job? They have no money to go to college and educationally cannot compete with those who got a better education in school and are in college, so what is the future for these people? Multi generational welfare has been how it has played out in the past.

New York is spending $52 BILLION dollars on Medicaid. Medicaid automatically comes when someone is on welfare. New York cannot maintain thay payout. Paladino has outright said he will cut $20 billion of that, Cuomo said he will make cuts but does not say how much. Clearly something needs to be done and Jimmy McMillan (The Rent is 2 Damn High) thinks if housing is cheaper people can fix the problems themselves. NYC recognized the education of it's students was so bad they needed to start Charter schools because their public schools do not educate the students, so it really is a BIG problem.

Well people, no matter who gets in, change is coming because people can't pay their property taxes (most pay anywhere from $5-10,000 a year in a middle class neighborhood, in the upper class neighborhoods it starts around $30,000 year on a $500,000 property), you've got at least 300 candidates for every available job and no new jobs being created, and a state budget paying out $52 billion a year for Medicaid. It's unsustainable.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 03:20 PM
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Your vote is worthless.

The corporations (Bankers) own both parties. They love to give you the illusion that your vote means something, when in reality, it means nothing. Until they get rid of the lobbyist and the fed, no real change will ever take place. There is only one party and they don't care about you and I.

But if it gives you the warm fuzzies and makes you feel like you have a choice, go for it!


This may be somewhat true on the National Level.

But Local Politics is where you have the most voice in elections.

I always vote for that reason.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 04:09 PM
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But Local Politics is where you have the most voice in elections.

I always vote for that reason.


Good point, but it’s funny how the candidates try to make it national. Last night, I heard this ad for a republican congressman and the whole ad just went on and on and on about how this person’s opponent voted in lock step with Nancy Pelosi. The whole ad mentioned Pelosi in every sentence. It was kind of comical actually.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 04:42 PM
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Your vote is worthless.

The corporations (Bankers) own both parties. They love to give you the illusion that your vote means something, when in reality, it means nothing. Until they get rid of the lobbyist and the fed, no real change will ever take place. There is only one party and they don't care about you and I.

But if it gives you the warm fuzzies and makes you feel like you have a choice, go for it!
And your constant complaints are worthless if you don't make your voice heard in a forum that could count (you know - as opposed to a band web site). You don't deserve the right to complain if you don't exercise your right to vote ... judging from your posts on this site that would be a problem for you If you don't like the candidates whose names are pre-printed on the ballot write in your choice.
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Just because you choose not to decide, does not mean you have not made a choice.

What? The choice of 'do nothing'. Sounds like the lazy way out to me.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 05:37 PM
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This may be somewhat true on the National Level.

But Local Politics is where you have the most voice in elections.

I always vote for that reason.


I totally agree with this. It is on the national level that your vote is worthless. My wife convinced me to go out and vote, so I did. I did not vote for the Senate race because our option was Dan Coats. He is a lobbyist and part of the problem, not a part of the solution.

I wish we had the option they have in Nevada of "NONE OF THE ABOVE". That should be an option on every ballot for every position.

So now I guess I can complain all I want and the OTF can't bitch and wine about it.

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 06:02 PM
OTF,

I have NOTHING to prove to you. I do have my "I voted" sticker they gave me. Would you like me to send it to you? PM me your address.

I thought you were leaving the WP and never coming back, but you are still here? Why don't you crawl back into your cave and give us all a break. Your antics are old and tired. Please find somebody else to cyberstalk, I am sure somebody will come by soon enough. How many more people are you going to try to run off this board? If you have not figure it out yet, you are not going to intimidate me. I actually find it fun! So keep up the good work. I am sure everyone here appreciates your crap!

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 06:24 PM
Geez Louise………no offense JPB but are you kidding me and you to for that matter Gina. This election is not about voting out the incumbent what a joke, in Georgia Johnny “been in office for ever” Isakson is running on a lower your taxes platform, which taxes would that be Johnny since the Republicans took away our home owner exemption tax break and the value of my house dropped while my taxes where increased and now my house note is $70 higher a month. Thanks Johnny! But in keeping with the reality of the situation those taxes are now going to build a new for profit jail so it looks like tax increases do create jobs. I keep hearing about these magical tax breaks that the Bush admin put in place create jobs, well where are all these jobs being created right now? They have been in place for the last 10 years so you think we would be flush with jobs, where are they? Exactly…..as you can see tax breaks don’t create jobs but tax increases do create them, look up Oklahoma City with 2% unemployment rate and find out why their unemployment figures are one of the lowest in the country.

Not one Republican in Georgia is going to vote out the incumbent if they are Republican, it will be the same ones getting voted back in to office from the local level to the ones they send to Congress and the Senate. This is not about incumbents! These are the same people who will be voted in over and over again no matter what they do. The same ones who were spending money like drunken sailors and will be back to sop up what is left. Where was the outrage when they were playing hide the sausage with the money being spent on the war?

Also JPB for someone who supports Ron & Rand Paul, have you ever read anything by Ayn Rand ? You should and if you get the message that Ron & Rand live by you would understand you would never fit into that world because you spend way to much time on this site rather than actually producing, so STFU and get back to work. Just kidding!

Now I have to say it will be fun to say “how’s that changey backy thing working out for ya”? By the way this is my copy write on the term “changey backy thing” LOL! Get out and vote folks, take your country back!

 

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  posted on 11/2/2010 at 06:31 PM
Trish, that homeowner exemption was taken away by the state legislature and Gov Perdue, not Sen Isakson. You know who got that in initially? Roy Barnes, Democrat tax-cutter.

Good to see you around again too!

 

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Oklahoma City with 2% unemployment rate


6.3%.

 

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"If you hate your country, if you blame your country, you vote Democrat, because that's what they believe." -Rush Limbaugh

That's entertainment...I guess?

 

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EPIC FAIL

 

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