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Author: Subject: Which Band Member Of A Band You Really Like You Could Do Without?

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  posted on 10/23/2010 at 04:25 PM
So maybe you do not like his/hers on or off stage antics or you think their playing is not on the same level of other band members and therefor that band under achievs. Or maybe just because you get a bad vibe from them or you feel "allergic" about the way they act or play.

First person that comes to my mind is Janick Gers from Iron Maiden. I'm a big Maiden fan since i "discovered" them back in 1982 and although my music taste more and more shifted away from Heavy Metal in recent years i keep following their career and seen them live at least a dozen times. Janick Gers joined Maiden when guitarist Adrian Smith left. After Adrian also singer Bruce Dickinson temporarily left. At the time Bruce's his solo career wasn't going anywhere Adrian Smith was in his solo band. When Bruce, to the delight of all Maiden fans, decided to return to Maiden he brought Adrian back with him. I must say i respect Maiden for not kicking out Janick Gers again but they let him stay in the band when Adrian re-joined and so became the third guitarist. Beside the fact that i think a third guitarist isn't needed in Iron Maiden and Janick's playing in particular doesn't add anything to the band it's especially his on stage "show" that rubs me the wrong way. Quiet simply i think he looks like a jerk on stage. He moves/dances in a silly way and there are songs during which it looks like he hardly ever touches his guitar. It's kinda Spinal Tap but in stead of being funny he constantly makes me think "What an assclown". Maybe a real nice bloke in real life but i could certainly do without him.

Who do you could do without?

[Edited on 10/23/2010 by ABBDutchFan]

 

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  posted on 10/23/2010 at 08:47 PM
Papa John Creach in both the Airplane and the Tuna. He was a very good musician in certain circles, but I don't think the music called for a violin in psychedelic rock. I do think he worked a lot better in Acoustic Tuna though. Still I wasn't too happy with his contributions to either.

Donna Jean Godchaux on most (but not all) occasions.

Neil Schon when he joined Santana in 1971. They really needed only one guitar player. Luckily he wasn't around long as he did much better for himself in Journey.

I suppose the consensus here is that Mike Lawler should have never came aboard the ABB especially when he decided to pick up that weird looking guitar!!

Linda McCartney's musical contributions were always questioned by critics and Paul fans in general.









[Edited on 10/24/2010 by BarrySmith]

 

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  posted on 10/23/2010 at 09:05 PM
Joe Lynn Turner, with Rainbow and Deep Purple.

John Mayall.

 

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  posted on 10/23/2010 at 11:59 PM
Ronnie Wood in the Stones.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 12:54 AM
Donna, hands down.

Michael McDonald killed the Doobie Bros.

Lawler, hahahahahaha.

Twinkle.

henry paul in the Outlaws after Hughie passed.

Yoko.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:16 AM
Sammy Hagar in Van Halen - For me, the band wasn't the same without DLR

Smashing Pumpkins - Anyone Billy brought into the band besides Jimmy, James & D'Arcy

Another vote for Michael McDonald killing the Doobies

I liked Papa John Creach with HT & JA

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:24 AM
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Donna Jean Godchaux


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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:26 AM
I loved Michael McDonald w/the Doobies...& Hagar w/Van Halen....different strokes for different folks.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:26 AM
I love and hate Donna Jean almost every day..........but for the most part I love the whole which is bigger than the sum of it's parts.

73 and 74 especially rock, regardless of Donna's contributions, or lack thereof.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:56 AM
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different strokes for different folks.
And with that Hugh I'm gonna' say...... Oteil Burbridge.
I know.
He has just never done it fo me as a bass player for the ABB compared to the Oakley/Allen/Goldfies type of bass player's the band has had.
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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:56 AM
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Ronnie Wood in the Stones.


Bingo, we have a winner

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 03:56 AM
PhotoRon had it right: Yoko with anyone

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 04:34 AM
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And with that Hugh I'm gonna' say...... Oteil Burbridge.
I know.
He has just never done it fo me as a bass player for the ABB compared to the Oakley/Allen/Goldfies type of bass player's the band has had.
(Lamar too!)


I feel sorry for you.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 06:16 AM
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Michael McDonald killed the Doobie Bros.


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Add,.......Imho, Johnny Neel didn't fit in the ABB

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 10:59 AM
I loved Papa John on Hot Tuna Electric(First pull up then pull down) he kills it on that LP!!!!!

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 11:46 AM
I would agree with Janick as well, he has a stage presence that just doesn't fit in with the rest of Maiden. I also didn't like Blaze Bayley in Maiden.

I actually agree with a lot of what everyone else has said, but I think Donna Jean Godchaux gets a little too much heat, because the Dead were still awesome most of the time she was in the band.

I don't dislike Ronnie Wood, but he's no Mick Taylor.

I thought Paul Rodgers in Queen was a bad idea. Separate I love both, but together it didn't work.

Wolfgang Van Halen.

Any band with Joe Lynn Turner.

Also as far as just a weird presence, after watching the Wilco doc "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart", Jay Bennett to be highly irritating.


 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 12:20 PM
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Ronnie Wood in the Stones.


Bingo, we have a winner


I agree with this.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:01 PM
Listen to the U.P. NYC shows from last year . You might change your opinion on Otiel. He was the MVP of that run IMO.


 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:25 PM
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I suppose the consensus here is that Mike Lawler should have never came aboard the ABB especially when he decided to pick up that weird looking guitar!!



I however liked Johnny Neel in the ABB, I wish he was still with em'.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 01:39 PM
Duane Betts with Great southern .I feel dickey and andy compliment themselves very well and don't need a 3rd guitar player.I like duane and his playing has improved by leaps and bounds over the years but no way he can hold a candle to those 2 guys.would love to see duane play in devon allmans band.
 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 02:12 PM
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And with that Hugh I'm gonna' say...... Oteil Burbridge.
I know.
He has just never done it fo me as a bass player for the ABB compared to the Oakley/Allen/Goldfies type of bass player's the band has had.
(Lamar too!)
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I feel sorry for you.



ME TOO

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 02:47 PM
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And with that Hugh I'm gonna' say...... Oteil Burbridge.
I know.
He has just never done it fo me as a bass player for the ABB compared to the Oakley/Allen/Goldfies type of bass player's the band has had.
(Lamar too!)
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I feel sorry for you.

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ME TOO


well, i don't feel sorry for you but i can tell you that I think Oteil's contributions are critical to the way the band has sounded since his arrival.

as much as it is about "notes played", it's more about the spirit behind those notes and his spirit with his instrument is masively powerful.. lots of people can "play" the notes of a pentatonic scale in a blues progression..there is a huge reason they sound so different when played by different people...IMO. that is heart and soul and Oteil has enough to light up city..

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 03:30 PM
To me, Judas Priest could've been so much better if they had a different drummer than Dave Holland for all those years. Les Binks was good, too bad they only used Simon Phillips to record one lp. Of course, Scott Travis kicked thing up a notch or three.

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 03:37 PM
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well, i don't feel sorry for you but i can tell you that I think Oteil's contributions are critical to the way the band has sounded since his arrival.

as much as it is about "notes played", it's more about the spirit behind those notes and his spirit with his instrument is masively powerful.. lots of people can "play" the notes of a pentatonic scale in a blues progression..there is a huge reason they sound so different when played by different people...IMO. that is heart and soul and Oteil has enough to light up city..


Oteil definitely steers MANY of the band's jams, and I couldn't imagine this band without him at this point. He's just a huge talent and major player in this lineup and I can't see how anyone who doesn't enjoy his playing could possibly enjoy the music that this band currently makes, 10+ years of magic IMO. I'm not comparing him to Berry or Woody, just saying he's great. Sorry for helping to hijack the thread.

 

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  posted on 10/24/2010 at 04:55 PM
Mickey Thomas in both the Elvin Bishop Band & The Starship...don't like his vocals at all...

 

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