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  posted on 5/22/2002 at 12:41 AM
Hey Allmans, what ever it takes, get dickey back, the band aint the band with out him. tell ya, miss seeing the band.
 
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  posted on 5/22/2002 at 01:39 AM
Oh, Brother. Not again.

 

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  posted on 5/22/2002 at 07:21 AM
I'm afraid so Marley. Given how long Dickey was in the band and what he contributed, however, there will always be periodic posts echoing these sentiments. It has to be expected, and I for one am glad to see them, frankly. Dickey should not be forgotten. At the same time everyone seems to have moved on pretty happily.

We'd all like to see that happen, JD45, but it's very doubtful. Support both the ABB and Dickey in their respective endeavors.

 

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  posted on 5/22/2002 at 07:19 PM
THE ONLY REASON DICKEY SHOULD BE OUT OF THE BAND IS DEATH. I SAW HIM IN NYC.A FEW WEEKS BACK AND HE WAS ON FIRE.I FIRST SAW THE ABB BAND IN 1970 IN CENTRAL PARK I HAVE NOT MISSED A YEAR AT THE BEACON. I HAVE SEEN JUST ABOUT EVERY MAKEUP OF THE BAND ,AND I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT WITHOUT DICKEY THERE JUST PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING THEIR NOT.I FEEL THEY PROVE MY POINT EVERY TIME THEY PLAY A DICKEY TUNE. BRING BACK DICKEY ,HOW I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A ABB VERSION OF DONNAMARIA.
 

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  posted on 5/23/2002 at 07:34 AM
You say more in three posts than I do in 300 sinblines. Well said, especially the part about Dona Maria.

 

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  posted on 5/28/2002 at 07:06 PM
How about Mick Jagger and no Keith Richards. Steve Tyler did'nt need Joe Perry right? Did Lennon really need Mccartney. Look the point is whatever you wanna call it , they are no longer the Allman Brothers with out Dicky.
 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 01:21 AM
It's not that he should be forgotten, that's an impossibility. I'm just tired of reading the same old **** so often.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 05:05 AM
How come some folks get so upset when ABB plays older stuff w/out Dickey in the band, yet feel it is quite alright for Dickey to play old ABB w/out the band? I realize part of it may be that he is credited with writing the songs in question, but does anyone really believe Dickey was solely responsible for all the great jamming that went into stuff like Jessica, Liz Reed, etc? I believe that Dickey may have provided the main theme of these songs but everyone in the band contributed something at some time to make them the calssics that they are. I personally hope that both ABB and Dickey continue to play these songs for a long long time.
 
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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 03:20 PM
Hey Rebel Dickey said it best "I dont play Midnight Rider or Whippin Post so why is Greg playing my songs" I hear the ABB Band play Dickeys songs without him and they sound like a tribute band. Im not down on the band but I wish the would leave Dickeys songs alone. Warren has plenty of tunes for the band to use. Not to mention Otel Derek have their own if they are the new ABB then play their tunes.I want Dickey back but if it aint happining then go foward .
 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 03:51 PM
They've added 5 songs each of the past two years, what do you call that if not moving forward?

 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 03:53 PM
And to address what Rebel said, I can't imagine anybody complaining if Dickey were to decide to start playing Midnight Rider tomorrow. I'm sure a thousand justifications would pop up in a matter of moments.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 06:11 PM
Marley,

I agree with everything you've said in this thread. You're one of the main reasons I go on this forum. Your posts are always interesting, entertaining, and very informative. I know when I read your posts, you'll have something worthwhile to say.

As far as this topic, for the last time I will say this: Dickey is gone, and will probably never return to the group. Yes, the current lineup occassionally plays a Dickey credited song, but it's almost always an instrumental(I see no reason why this should be a problem), or it's a song that Dickey wrote, but Gregg usually sang. What's the big deal?....Let Dickey do Gregg songs, I wouldn't mind hearing Dickey do MIDNIGHT RIDER or DREAMS, etc. when I see him in Detroit in a couple of weeks. Hell, I think it would be awesome. I'd be cheering him on as loud as anybody.

I admit I might have been a little down on Dickey, but I've put that in the past where it belongs. I admire and respect him for everything he did for the brothers after Duane and Berry's deaths. He's probably the one who should get the most credit for keeping the band going. His playing, singing, and songwriting on BROTHERS & SISTERS definitely needs to be applauded(as well as Chuck's piano playing***blows my mind***), and it kept the band in the spotlight. Other than any ABB CD, I can honestly say that HIGHWAY CALL is my favorite CD to listen to right now. I've listened to it every morning at work for the past two months(repeatedly), and love it more and more. INCREDIBLE work of music( again, Chuck is awesome....his solo during the title track puts me in such a tranquil state, it's heaven for me). I am SO looking forward to seeing him and GS. I can't wait to check out the new acoustic CD he has coming out. I think it might be available at the shows. I especially want to hear his cover of Tangled Up In Blue, and the Celtic instrumental.

Anyway, the current band IS NOT a tribute band like someone had previously posted. They're as good as ever, and having fun again....isn't that the most important thing? I listen to Peakin' and then 9/23/00....it's not even the same band. Gregg sounds so much better, and the band is more energetic. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC!!! June 20th in Chicago, and June 30th in Detroit can't come soon enough for me.

That's all I have to say about that subject, and hopefully it's the last time I post about it!!!

From now on when I see it: ZZZZZZZZZZ!!!
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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 06:19 PM
That's the most exclamation point I've ever seen on a yawn.

 

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  posted on 5/29/2002 at 09:10 PM
Why? Is Dickey out of the band? I didn't know that.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2002 at 04:27 AM
Just for the record, I didn't say nuthin' about nobody in this thread.

 

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  posted on 5/30/2002 at 06:36 AM
Not only that but you kept your post to one sentence. Someone pound on my heart quick.
 

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  posted on 5/30/2002 at 09:57 AM
Hey rebel - I always wondered about some of these songs also - did Dickey write the bass line, the keyboards, the percussion, and create the solos that the other guitarist played? I doubt it seriously - he probably came up with the chords and his solo, had ideas for the rest, but didn't write all.

Listen to Nobody Knows - it's a perfect example - there is too much packed into that song that sounds like other band members for it to have been written by one. I sometimes wonder if Dickey and some of the other Brothers had different feelings about what earns someone a songwriting credit, because the newer songs all seem to have multiple co-writers - same with the Mule in a lot of instances.

Mabye this was a real sticking point, mabye not. Dickey is brilliant, one way or another.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2002 at 07:34 AM
This is the way I see it; The ABB has always been more a sum of the parts, than the parts themselves. I think Gregg saw to that over the years. I have to agree that a lot of groups that have lost members over the years are basically dead and I do not waste my time going to see them. But it has always been different with ABB. Even though it was a rare collection of superstars, I never really saw them as individuals. I saw them as a team. And though the team changed over the years, and with a few notable exceptions, the music has not. I miss Dickey's input. He gave them a "good time feel" to some of the tunes. Balanced them out a bit. But I am a hardcore blues fan and I quite enjoy watching Warren and Derek play their asses off, night after night. That is all I will say on the subject.

 

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  posted on 6/2/2002 at 08:46 AM
I'm new to these forums, even though I've been in the Peach Corps since '98. I have to concur with onewayout's view on the ABB as a sum of their parts, rather than the parts themselves. I love Dickey, but I have to say that after this year's Beacon run, I'm not missing him. This ABB is no tribute or cover band without Dickey--in fact, they are so much more. Were the ABB of post-1972 a tribute band without Duane and Berry? That's like suggesting the ABB should have changed their band name after one of the Allmans died. I heard folks at the Beacon remark that even though this ABB seemed like a Warren Haynes supergroup, it was perfectly fine with them. I think that is a testament to just how great they are right now. I think I read a comment from Butch that he's had more fun in the last two years than he's had since Duane and Berry were around. The addition of Derek has almost made this a generational thing. I rejoice in the fact that not only do the new tunes rock, furiously (I'm especially fond of what they've done with Desdemona), but they also feel fresh and modern while retaining the traditional ABB emotion. Just listen to the Rocking Horse> Southbound from the second Saturday show at this year's Beacon run. That is everything I love about the ABB wrapped-up in two blazing first-set performances. If you no longer like the band without Dickey, then, as the song suggests, get on with your life.

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  posted on 6/4/2002 at 07:11 PM
BRING BACK BETTS

 

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  posted on 6/4/2002 at 08:35 PM
I just want to say a couple of things. I think Dickey is very talented, and I think his contributions to the band has been great. BUT! I have always thougt his voice was kinda country, hillbilly or what ever you want to call it. His guitar work is great but compared to Duane I think it is lacking. Besides who do Eric C. ask to sit in on the Miami sessions with him. Which turned out to be one of the greatest albums ever made. Don't get me wrong I like Dickey, but I think Duane and Gregg were the driving force behind ABB. I really hate to see Dickey go out on his own just because I think he compliments the band and vice versa. look at Keith and Mick, what have they done without each other??? I am not going to sit here and blow smoke up your *** but I would go see the Allmans without Dickey, which by the way I am when they come to Atlanta in Sept. ( i hope) But I don't think I would go see Dickey if he came here. But anyway I think this website is great ! I love the info and the chance to talk about a band I have been seeing and hearing !
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  posted on 6/9/2002 at 06:04 PM
in my opinion warren haynes is 10 times the guitarist that dickey betts is.
 

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  posted on 6/10/2002 at 08:58 AM
No doubt, dude, in terms of pure skill. But Dickey's tone, and how sweetly it mixes with Warren's, plus their voices together, like sonic sugar! That's why we need him back.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2002 at 11:24 AM
Not to be contrary, but the ABB doesn't feel they need him, and based on just a Before and After comparison, I'm inclined to agree.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2002 at 12:53 PM
Marley - I don't know if you ever saw a show with Warren and Dickey in the ABB, but nothing, but nothing, except Duane and Dickey, compares. The current line up is sharp and real tight, but falls way short. Not only in terms of variety of songs, but in terms of point/counterpoint dual soloing - Derek and Warren do it, but don't sound disparate the way Dickey and Warren did, while maintaining a fluidity that is outstanding.

There is also stage presence - Dickey and Warren would get so tight shoulder to shoulder sometimes that it was if they were going to play each other's instruments - you just couldn't believe how locked in they were sometimes.

Plus, the voice of Dickey just broke up the gravely thing sooooo well, not much more I can say on that.

They may not have been "on" nearly as often as the current band (which almost always is), but when they were - let's just say this - I'd pay $1,000 a ticket to see it anyday!

 

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