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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 06:37 AM
Hopefully this will lead to him giving up info on the Natalee Halloway case and give her family some closure. The blood of Stephany Flores is on the hands of everyone who bumbled that investigation.

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 06:43 AM
Boy, Would I like to be a juror for that trial.
 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 06:56 AM
This whole thing sort of comes as a good news/bad news thing.

Though I'm not really in favor of the death penalty (can you think of anybody more deserving?), Peru doesn't have it. As a matter of fact, the maximum sentence for murder is only 30 - 35 years.

However, Peruvian prisons are notoriously harsh. From what I understand, prisoners must provide their own food and other rations. The prisons are sparse - some cells don't have glass in the windows. Prisoners are given two blankets, which are rarely enough on cold Peruvian nights. Additionally, the prisoners must was their own laundry by hand in a sink with only cold running water. Bottom line is, this kid will not be very comfortable and may find himself wishing he'd been convicted in Aruba.

Natalee Holloway's family (mom, anyway) lives about a mile from me. I've been following this as a local interest story.

Hopefully, Mr. Van Der Sloot will now find it in his heart to provide the Holloway's with some closure. I'm sure his Aruban buds are all sweating bullets about right now. When the truth come out about Natalee, I've got the feeling that a whole lot of accomplices are going to have some music to face.

Should Mr. Van Der Sloot survive 30 years (probably more like 10 - 15 years with time off for good behavior), he'll likely be transferred here to Birmingham to face extortion charges. This little piece of work had the stones to contact Natalee's mother seeking $250,000.00 for information on where her daughter's remains could be found. Through a sting operation, he was give a $15,000.00 "down-payment". Sadly, this is probably the money he financed his latest round of violence with.

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 08:47 AM
If he survives in jail. He could be done in for a very low price.
 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 09:38 AM
Real justice would be served by letting him in a room alone with both murdered girls family.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 11:02 AM
Hang him. If they need a henchman, I'll volunteer. I'll even pay for my flight to Peru.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 11:29 AM
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Real justice would be served by letting him in a room alone with both murdered girls family.


I don't know about the family of his most recent victim, but if he could feel even some of the pain and anguish that he's caused to Beth Holloway (Natalee's mom) and the rest of the family - that might be more horrendous than prison itself.

Beth has been mocked in the media and on websites by people who accuse her of "milking" the incident. She has made a one woman campaign and has been relentless in her pursuit of Van Der Sloot. The folks who make these comments can't possibly understand what it is to have lost a daughter. I just hope that some closure is finally in sight.

[Edited on 6/8/2010 by Rusty]

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 11:31 AM
Well i'm against the death penalty. Not out of religious reasons and not because i feel sorry for murderers and other perverts.

Regarding Joran van der Sloot:
If found guilty a lengty jail sentence in Peru is a fate even worser than capital punishment. Jails in countries like Peru and Venezuela are hell holes beyond imagination. And in the social ranking in those jails (run by prisoners; guards stay out) murderers of innocent women and children are the bottom of the barrel and are often abused and/or murdered by inmates. In Peru it's an unwritten law that those convicts get two sentences: one by the court and the other one by fellow prisoners. And in Joran's case: he is so high profile due to all media attention there will be plenty of prisoners with nothing to loose who want their claim to fame by stabbing mr. van der Sloot to death.

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 11:37 AM
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If found guilty a lengty jail sentence in Peru is a faith even worser than capital punishment. Jails in countries like Peru and Venezuela are hell holes beyond imagination. And in the social ranking in those jails (run by prisoners; guards stay out) murderers of innocent women and children are the bottom of the barrel and are often abused and/or murdered by inmates. In Peru it's an unwritten law that those convicts get two sentences: one by the court and the other one by fellow prisoners. And in Joran's case: he is so high profile due to all media attention there will be plenty of prisoners with nothing to loose who want their claim to fame by stabbing mr. van der Sloot to death.


In other words, Mr. Van Der Sloot's assh*le may become very wide very soon. Probably his most appropriate fate.



[Edited on 6/8/2010 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 02:23 PM
He will rot in hell!!!

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 02:54 PM
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Boy, Would I like to be a juror for that trial.



id prefer to be the executioner!!!!!!!1

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 03:01 PM
What a weakling.....scum like him do not belong on this Earth
 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 05:52 PM
lets see if Daddy gets him out of this one.
 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 07:37 PM
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lets see if Daddy gets him out of this one.



Not an issue, Daddy died early this year.

 

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  posted on 6/8/2010 at 10:45 PM
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Well i'm against the death penalty. Not out of religious reasons and not because i feel sorry for murderers and other perverts.

Regarding Joran van der Sloot:
If found guilty a lengty jail sentence in Peru is a faith even worser than capital punishment. Jails in countries like Peru and Venezuela are hell holes beyond imagination. And in the social ranking in those jails (run by prisoners; guards stay out) murderers of innocent women and children are the bottom of the barrel and are often abused and/or murdered by inmates. In Peru it's an unwritten law that those convicts get two sentences: one by the court and the other one by fellow prisoners. And in Joran's case: he is so high profile due to all media attention there will be plenty of prisoners with nothing to loose who want their claim to fame by stabbing mr. van der Sloot to death.


We'll be reading about it at some point in the future, no doubt. He's toast. Sometimes there really is justice in this world.

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 06:57 AM
Latest word: An ARUBAN attorney (appointed by mommy) is allegedly saying that Van Der Sloot's confession was coerced. An ARUBAN attorney!

Folks, I'm all for being objective and holding out a verdict until all evidence has been reviewed, but this is ridiculous! Surveillance video shows TWO entering the hotel room and only ONE coming out. Nobody else entered/exited in between.

The Aruban government coddled this little monster all the way through the Holloway case. Through his late father's connections, he was prevented from any real interrogation by officials.

I'm sure life must be Hell for his mother right now and I actually pity her to a degree. In all the television interviews (mainly FOX - Gretta Van Sustren), she always appeared eerily silent. She knows what her boy did and she knows that she, her late husband and to some degree the Aruban and Dutch officials protected her son throughout the episode.

In the end, I don't think mommy or the Aruban lawyer are going to be of any more help to this guy than a screen door on a submarine.

 

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Regarding Joran van der Sloot:
If found guilty a lengty jail sentence in Peru is a faith even worser than capital punishment. Jails in countries like Peru and Venezuela are hell holes beyond imagination. And in the social ranking in those jails (run by prisoners; guards stay out) murderers of innocent women and children are the bottom of the barrel and are often abused and/or murdered by inmates. In Peru it's an unwritten law that those convicts get two sentences: one by the court and the other one by fellow prisoners. And in Joran's case: he is so high profile due to all media attention there will be plenty of prisoners with nothing to loose who want their claim to fame by stabbing mr. van der Sloot to death.
Doesn't look like a place I would want to visit!


From Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel

Having visited more than two dozen foreign prisons, Griffith says Lurigancho is in a world of its own.

"There are 35 guys in a room there," he says. "They don't have beds, they go to the bathroom on the floor and the showers run once a week for 15 minutes. Fifty percent of the inmates have AIDS or tuberculosis, and you can die from eating the food."

If convicted and sent to Lurigancho, van der Sloot would be in considerable danger, Griffith says. "Let me put it to you like this," he says. "You have 10,000 guys in a prison with 3,000 beds. Eighty percent of these guys have nothing. A hundred bucks will carry them for four months, so they'll stand in line [to be paid] to cut his throat."

 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 07:54 PM
some people just SUCK. Obviously this dickhead is near the top of that list.
 

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  posted on 6/9/2010 at 08:19 PM
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I don't know about the family of his most recent victim, but if he could feel even some of the pain and anguish that he's caused to Beth Holloway (Natalee's mom) and the rest of the family - that might be more horrendous than prison itself.

Beth has been mocked in the media and on websites by people who accuse her of "milking" the incident. She has made a one woman campaign and has been relentless in her pursuit of Van Der Sloot. The folks who make these comments can't possibly understand what it is to have lost a daughter. I just hope that some closure is finally in sight.



Rusty I can't even begin to comprehend all Beth Holloway has been through during this whole ordeal. However, I can't really comprehend how a whole senior class of high school students go to Aruba to celebrate graduation by getting drunk in a bar. I know I did sh*t ten times worse in my youth, but in this day and age ... evidently with the parents blessing ... I am truely at a loss of understanding. I am sure this has to compound the already incredible grief the family must live with on a day-to-day basis regardless of the outcome of this yet another horrible tragedy. I do hope the punishment is both swift and hard.

 

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I don't know about the family of his most recent victim, but if he could feel even some of the pain and anguish that he's caused to Beth Holloway (Natalee's mom) and the rest of the family - that might be more horrendous than prison itself.

Beth has been mocked in the media and on websites by people who accuse her of "milking" the incident. She has made a one woman campaign and has been relentless in her pursuit of Van Der Sloot. The folks who make these comments can't possibly understand what it is to have lost a daughter. I just hope that some closure is finally in sight.



Rusty I can't even begin to comprehend all Beth Holloway has been through during this whole ordeal. However, I can't really comprehend how a whole senior class of high school students go to Aruba to celebrate graduation by getting drunk in a bar. I know I did sh*t ten times worse in my youth, but in this day and age ... evidently with the parents blessing ... I am truely at a loss of understanding. I am sure this has to compound the already incredible grief the family must live with on a day-to-day basis regardless of the outcome of this yet another horrible tragedy. I do hope the punishment is both swift and hard.


Charlesinator, I'm with you 10,000% on that. I feel that the chaperones and Natalee's friends just messed up severely. It's like swimming - you take a partner and stay together. Why her friends decided it was okay to leave Natalee alone with three local men is just beyond me.

Of course, one could argue the old double standard - that a guy left alone with three girls would be safe and okay.

Like you, I'm sure I did stuff that was waaay more ridiculous and dangerous in my teenage years. Folks (locals around the Birmingham area) cite the teenage drinking and partying that led up to Natalee's disappearance. I don't think teenage drinking and partying is anything new. I certainly did my share (1970's) and my mom assures me that teens were doing likewise in the 50's.

I also have this somewhat smug and self rightious idea that a person should be free and able to go where they want to go and not have to worry about human low-lifes interfering with them. I guess I'm guilty of being idealistic.

Bottom line for now is this POS is going to be behind bars for a while. Likely, not for long enough.

Peru doesn't have a death penalty. Van Der Sloot will be going to what I understand is a human hell hole - a prison where the inmates must finance their own living arrangement.

While this would be a horror for low-income locals or for stranded foreigners (think "Midnight Express"), a wealthy brat lie Van Der Sloot will probably live a comfy life thanks to money and provisions sent by mommy.

As a matter of fact, from what I read this morning - mommy is trying to pull strings to have this turd transferred to a Dutch prison. I don't think she'll be successful, but can you imagine the outrage if she is?

Folks, I apologize for constantly bumping this thread but I do have strong feelings here.

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  posted on 6/10/2010 at 07:22 AM
We definately agree Rusty. As for chaperones and friends responsibility ... I can only think of countless times either I or somebody I know acted like an ass because they were drunk. Where either I or they just finally said, "F" it go on because they've already spenthalf the night baby sitting.

Again as for us doing all that crazy stuff as a youth. Times really are different now. Attitudes have changed drastically especially towards drinking and drugging. Somehow I feel Mr. Van Der Sloot's life won't be the bed of roses it has been where somehow taking someone's life is part of a "good time."

 

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  posted on 6/10/2010 at 11:04 AM
I don't think all the money in the world will buy this punk a "comfy life" where he is going. He has to go to sleep sometime. And in a room with 34 other men...

 

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  posted on 6/10/2010 at 02:27 PM
He is toast as far as doing time for his Peruvian crime ... there will be no denying justice on this one. I cannot imagine being the parent of a creature like this ... what must it be like to be called on repeatedly to rescue this demon from himself ... I understand a parent's love but I do not understand letting that love make you a conspirator in actions like this. I only hope that some miracle of conscience hits this piece of pond scum in the head and heart and he gives Beth Holloway some sense of closure in letting her know where her Natalie is and how she came to rest there. I can't imagine the depths of her sorrow these past years and in all those that follow. And now to have the media making suggestions that she somehow helped 'finance his recent crime' (or crimes - because it's my understanding that he is being looked at in young female disappearances in other countries he's visited) ... it's beyond comprehension. Stay strong Beth Holloway and rest peacefully Natalie and Stephany ... justice may be served after all.

 

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  posted on 6/10/2010 at 05:21 PM
In the Crossroads Festival thread they were talking about dining at Taste Of Peru. It immediately made me wonder when Joran will get his taste of Peru?

 

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