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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 08:50 PM
To more prominently display my views in response to NYC Barb's heartbreaking thread....

And at the risk of offending some, and getting my karma rating smacked….

Please, please, please do not drink and drive or drive while impaired in any way.

I realize most of us have done it, and what’s done is done, but its one of the most inconsiderate things a person can do.

Please think about the potential damage you can do to yourself and others, extending deep and wide across friends and family of the victims.

Its just unnecessary and really dangerous.

OK..done preaching!

 
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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 08:52 PM
Agreed.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 08:56 PM

Amen.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 08:59 PM
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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 09:02 PM
kitchenboy, anyone who would smack your karma for this post, should be smacked!
If this post saves one person from being hurt or killed, it's gonna send your real karma (not the little thumbs thingy) to the stars! Thank you.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 09:49 PM
Totally agree, but I need to add something and it's not often a very popular opinion: We need to provide inexpensive/free alternative transportation for people. When I lived in a large city, there were trains and buses that ran into the evening (cabs are too expensive) and less people I knew drank and then drove, but I have lived in many smaller places (Chapel Hill, NC/Eugene, OR/Boulder CO, etc) where people drink and drive because there is no alternative transportation that is low cost/affordable. I know they shouldn't, you know they shouldn't but much like giving away free needles to spare people from getting AIDS, people will do it unless we provide them with an alternative that still lets them do it, but helps them get home w/out driving a car. I am completely opposed to MADD because they continue to lobby for harsher laws instead of spending the money on providing free rides home for these people. Again, it's not a popular opinion, but one that you should consider.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 09:59 PM
When I stopped drinking in September, initially it was over concern that my luck would eventually run out on drinking and driving. Every time I'd get on my motorcycle, I'd end up stopping somewhere and having a few beers. I finally realized I simply couldn't afford a DUI with two kids in college, not to mention I'd lose my company vehicle privileges and possibly my job. I've been lucky all my life to not have had a DUI. I've always felt like I had an angel watching over me. It's funny how it's turned into a health issue concern now. I do still miss my cold beer. I've been telling everybody I didn't quit drinking, I just stopped drinking. I reserve the right to resume. It hasn't happened yet, and my will power is stronger than my impulses right now.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 10:03 PM
Last time I drove drunk was in 1982. I was working as a chef in Truckee near Lake Tahoe and after the restaurant closed it was common that we'd all sit around decompressing with plenty of wine. It was winter and about a mile from home I hit a patch of black ice and did a Shaun White in my Volvo. Luckily I didn't flip or crash but by the time the car stopped spinning I was in the oncoming lane around a blind curve. It was late and there was no traffic but if someone had been coming around that curve I could have bought it or, worse, killed someone else. That was enough for me.
 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 10:06 PM
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When I stopped drinking in September, initially it was over concern that my luck would eventually run out on drinking and driving. Every time I'd get on my motorcycle, I'd end up stopping somewhere and having a few beers. I finally realized I simply couldn't afford a DUI with two kids in college, not to mention I'd lose my company vehicle privileges and possibly my job. I've been lucky all my life to not have had a DUI. I've always felt like I had an angel watching over me. It's funny how it's turned into a health issue concern now. I do still miss my cold beer. I've been telling everybody I didn't quit drinking, I just stopped drinking. I reserve the right to resume. It hasn't happened yet, and my will power is stronger than my impulses right now.



What a great post.

Thanks for the honesty, Dave.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 10:27 PM

It's amazing to think about how much is at risk by drinking alcohol. Our jobs, our savings, our driving privileges, our family, our health, our freedom. The list goes on and on.
I think of alcohol as a type of poison that makes you feel euphoric before it kills you.

Think about it, if you sat down with a big bottle of whiskey, or vodka and started drinking, at first you'd feel good. You'd be enjoying yourself, and everything is cool. If you kept on drinking, you'd feel more angry, aggressive, and belligerent because the alcohol is having a profound effect on your liver, and kidneys,which control anger and fear. If you still drank more, you'd start to get sick, and vomit because your body is trying to expel a toxic substance that is threatening your vital organs. If you kept drinking from there, your blood would be toxic, and you'd be passing out, which is a defense mechanism so your body can't take in more alcohol. If you continued from there, you'd be dead. Your organs would just shut down, and your heart would stop completely.

Now consider that this stuff is legal, and it's socially acceptable to drink alcohol with your dinner, at holiday, and social events. Concerts, and parties of all kinds. Everywhere you look, alcohol is represented in a positive way. If you don't drink, people look at you funny, and ask you why. It's a social trap that we become conditioned to accept and participate in at a young age. As we get older, we start to see the dangers more clearly, but the reality, and effort of sobriety is something not enough people embrace.

My message to everyone isn't just to not drink and drive. My message is to have enough respect for your body, mind, and spirit to not drink at all, ever!!


 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 08:00 AM
I don't have any children. I did make the following pledge to my nephew and nieces, who are all grown with kids of their own now.

Basically, I told them (they were high schoolers at the time) - if you've been "partying" call me and I will come and get you. This will be the end of the issue. I will not "report" you to your parents or bust your chops in any way. Call me and I will come and get you and make sure that you (and your buds) get home safely.

I wasn't condoning their activities. I just remember my own teenage years - not too many real saints at this age! They're all beautiful, fun-loving kids, some of whom "experiment" with substances.

I knew a couple of kids in my own day who died while wrapping their car around an oak tree. I knew a couple later on who were in head-on collisions where they and the driver/passenger in the other car died.

So, yeah! Don't drink and drive. If you can prevent someone else from doing this - even if they happen to be under age, do that too!

 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 08:13 AM
Agreed . I stoped doing it when my son was born almost 4 years ago
 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 08:16 AM
as a survivor of Dui's in the state of Florida i firmly believe there ought to be tougher laws.

i was lucky to get out of it when i did. in '91 i quit drinking and i'm glad i did

Please do not drink and drive. Everyone loses

 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 12:26 PM
I agree. By some fate I was never arrested or stopped during those years and am now a PTC (Person to call) or a designated driver for friends who are gonna go out partying and become impaired. I live in a community where everybody knows everybody and the pool hall is right in the middle of downtown so everybody knows who's doing what and when I moved here I decided to help my friends stay out of jail.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 01:17 PM
I have never driven drunk and never would and never will. I once tried to ride a bicycle when I was drunk. I didn't realize the extent to which my coordination would be effected. I couldn't even balance on the thing. It made me realize how impossible it is to safely drive while under the influence as well.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 02:11 PM
Word. It should just never happen!

 

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  posted on 3/24/2010 at 02:15 PM
Id be lying if I said I never drove with a buzz on, but I'm not lying when I say I never will again....
 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 05:16 PM
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Totally agree, but I need to add something and it's not often a very popular opinion: We need to provide inexpensive/free alternative transportation for people. When I lived in a large city, there were trains and buses that ran into the evening (cabs are too expensive) and less people I knew drank and then drove, but I have lived in many smaller places (Chapel Hill, NC/Eugene, OR/Boulder CO, etc) where people drink and drive because there is no alternative transportation that is low cost/affordable. I know they shouldn't, you know they shouldn't but much like giving away free needles to spare people from getting AIDS, people will do it unless we provide them with an alternative that still lets them do it, but helps them get home w/out driving a car. I am completely opposed to MADD because they continue to lobby for harsher laws instead of spending the money on providing free rides home for these people. Again, it's not a popular opinion, but one that you should consider.


Here's an alternative: Don't drink. Here is my problem: You don't HAVE to drink. Or do it at home.

Why is it my responsibility to pay for something other people are doing? I don't drink.

I'm not saying that I totally disagree with this idea, but I want to offer another opinion.

Alcohol is dangerous. This is something people don't want to admit, I hear it everyday.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO problem with people wanting to drink whatsoever. But I also have no problem with someone wanting to smoke a little pot.

HOWEVER if you choose to do these things, you need to be responsible about it. - Don't drink and drive. It's not my responsibility to give you a ride. If you can't arrange it, don't go out and drink. Stay home.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 12:05 AM
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Here's an alternative: Don't drink. Here is my problem: You don't HAVE to drink. Or do it at home.

Why is it my responsibility to pay for something other people are doing? I don't drink.

I'm not saying that I totally disagree with this idea, but I want to offer another opinion.

Alcohol is dangerous. This is something people don't want to admit, I hear it everyday.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO problem with people wanting to drink whatsoever. But I also have no problem with someone wanting to smoke a little pot.

HOWEVER if you choose to do these things, you need to be responsible about it. - Don't drink and drive. It's not my responsibility to give you a ride. If you can't arrange it, don't go out and drink. Stay home.


I understand your position. You are 100% correct. In a perfect world, people would take responsibility for their own actions. The problem is that some people DON'T take responsibility, so those of us who do care, who want to make a difference, should. Ask yourself this: would you rather see the people who drink and drive behind bars for longer amounts of time, or would you rather see the people still alive? I'd rather give someone a ride and save lives. I'd rather see junkies get free needles than spread disease, even though I don't condone their actions. I also understand that my position isn't the most popular out there.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 05:27 AM
Sadly, I'm still the only one of my friends who takes a cab to and from the local watering hole.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 09:17 AM
I'm one of those lucky ones that had an angel watching over....I'm also lucky enough to have matured to the point where I drink and stay put. If at all.

The only thing I'll add to the thread is that alcohol lowers inhibitions. It's easy to say you'll never DUI when you're sober, but have a few pops and we all know where it can lead. That's why it's all of our responsibility to take the keys away, give rides, whatever to keep others from doing it too. Remember, their judgment is impaired and a good friend does what they can to prevent tragedy.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 04:09 PM
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Here's an alternative: Don't drink. Here is my problem: You don't HAVE to drink. Or do it at home.

Why is it my responsibility to pay for something other people are doing? I don't drink.

I'm not saying that I totally disagree with this idea, but I want to offer another opinion.

Alcohol is dangerous. This is something people don't want to admit, I hear it everyday.

Don't get me wrong, I have NO problem with people wanting to drink whatsoever. But I also have no problem with someone wanting to smoke a little pot.

HOWEVER if you choose to do these things, you need to be responsible about it. - Don't drink and drive. It's not my responsibility to give you a ride. If you can't arrange it, don't go out and drink. Stay home.


I understand your position. You are 100% correct. In a perfect world, people would take responsibility for their own actions. The problem is that some people DON'T take responsibility, so those of us who do care, who want to make a difference, should. Ask yourself this: would you rather see the people who drink and drive behind bars for longer amounts of time, or would you rather see the people still alive? I'd rather give someone a ride and save lives. I'd rather see junkies get free needles than spread disease, even though I don't condone their actions. I also understand that my position isn't the most popular out there.


Amy, please don't take what I said negatively, because I do agree with your side too. I just wanted to through out there that people need to take responsibility for their actions. And that drinking is something that needs to be done.

I have been on this board for many years and I read a lot, I don't post regularly, so I always kinda feel like everyone knows me, but not many here do. I'm very upbeat and laid back in person... typing on these boards is always touchy because people mentally add their own tone to someone's post.

So please take my post as a friendly debate. I don't actually subscribe to either side very strongly...

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 04:38 PM
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Sadly, I'm still the only one of my friends who takes a cab to and from the local watering hole.


And kudos to you for doing so despite the norm. You'll never have to worry about plowing into a family while under the influence....let's hope your friends never experience that.

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 05:51 PM
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So please take my post as a friendly debate. I don't actually subscribe to either side very strongly...


Mea Culpa. I, too, didn't come off as I wanted to, sounded a bit heavy-handed and wasn't trying to antagonize nor upset anyone (and still hope I didn't..) It's all good...

 

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  posted on 3/26/2010 at 06:16 PM
I agree. Even if we've done it before, why push it? Stop. It's a conscious decision.
 
 


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