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  posted on 3/22/2010 at 02:29 PM
Just curious, but what was the deal with Gregg on this tune? Was viewing show on Moogis and noticed at beginning of tune Gregg seemed disoriented and appeared to have a mark on forehead near hairline? All seemed well after intermission. Anyone else notice this?
 
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  posted on 3/22/2010 at 10:07 PM
I agree . I didn't notice anything with his head, but I did noticed he did seem a little out of it and then suddenly after the admission he was right back
 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 04:11 PM
i think he just messed the words up or started it to early . it happens..... they sure made up for it the song was crunchin. also i think it belongs at the close of set one . they just crunch it there.
 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 08:43 PM
I was there. He just forgot to come in when he was supposed to. Took him a little longer than usual to recover. Once they straightened it out they rocked it though!

 

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  posted on 3/23/2010 at 10:29 PM
He came in too early when the band was still building tempo and then didn't know how to get back on track. Hard to believe he could make such an obvious error on such a common and old song, but he did. First time I had heard him mess up Whipping Post.

The overall greatness of the band and our love for Gregg sometimes leads us to sweep these kind of things under the rug, but after watching this year's run on moogis compared to many many shows I've witnessed in the past, not including audience recordings I listen to I think that there was a rash of this kind of stuff this year. I will say that perhaps I was more alert to it this year for some reason, but still....while I'm going to try and continue looking past it myself, I still can't forget it completely. I hope all that read this have a sense of humor when I say that outside the first moogis flawed night, I think I witnessed more Gregg goof ups then I experienced video freezes.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 11:58 AM
Gregg came in early, realized it and when he was supposed to come in, I think he was having trouble hearing the downbeat and waited until he heard it and came in. These things happen from time...

Really it wasn't that big of a deal. I look at mistakes as "bad" when the band gets into a situation that they can't recover from. They did well and then played a smoking version once Gregg locked in.

Since 2001 or so, I'd say Gregg has made lots of similar errors, usually forgetting lyrics, missing a cue, or coming in too soon (cutting off a solo or something). I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he has toured his whole life with a very small setlist and then in 2001 they started playing different sets from night to night usually using a MUCH larger songbase than previous tours. They have had Beacon runs since then that they have played more songs in a run than they played for several years at a time.

I will agree with Nebish that Gregg seemed to have a little bit more of these things this run, but not much more. It could be due to under-rehearsal. I don't know.

Strangely enough though, I think I enjoyed this year's run more than last years. And I thought last year's was amazing. I guess I just really enjoyed the amount of non-guest ABB time. Plus really enjoyed the new additions to the setlist.

I do think Gregg didn't look as happy on this run as he has for the last several years and that was concern to me. But then again, seeming to look unhappy and actually being unhappy are 2 different things. Who knows?

 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 12:39 PM
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Gregg came in early, realized it and when he was supposed to come in, I think he was having trouble hearing the downbeat and waited until he heard it and came in.
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That certainly appeared to be the case, at least some of the time. I noticed he signaled the techs a few times indicating audio problems, saw him pull his left ear piece out once and at least one other time, the earpiece was dangling/hanging over his shoulder and saw him tuck it into his shirt collar. The things one notices via the up close personal nature of Moogis!

[Edited on 3/25/2010 by Brightboy]

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 05:28 PM
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The overall greatness of the band and our love for Gregg sometimes leads us to sweep these kind of things under the rug, but after watching this year's run on moogis compared to many many shows I've witnessed in the past, not including audience recordings I listen to I think that there was a rash of this kind of stuff this year. I will say that perhaps I was more alert to it this year for some reason, but still....while I'm going to try and continue looking past it myself, I still can't forget it completely. I hope all that read this have a sense of humor when I say that outside the first moogis flawed night, I think I witnessed more Gregg goof ups then I experienced video freezes.


From what I've heard on Moogis and from the sounds of a lot of member reviews, it seems like Gregg had a real tough NYC run this year. I didnt notice as many mistakes (if at all - other than from the guests) last year for the 40th anniversary run.

I hope this cat ain't relapsing. I'm jussayin...

There were plenty of mis-cues last year as well. I think part of it, for those of us watching on Moogis, is that we have such an up close and focused vantage point that we see things we may never notice if we were at the show sitting 20 or 30 rows back. I noticed this last year, that Moogis allows you to see everything that's going on, including the mistakes.

 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 05:42 PM
Everything's good. Gregg always screws up somewhere during the course of a show. It's not an ABB show if Gregg doesn't have a gaff. The really good ones are when Warren shoots him a look.
 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 05:48 PM
I found it on Youtube,but the beginning of the tune isn't there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajzWkZ7hXdw

 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 07:38 PM
I know I don't post often , but I've been a long time member of the Peach Corp & have seen the Allmans way too many times to count going back to 1972. I have been to 2-3 shows just about every NYC run and this was by far the sloppiest I've seen them play. The percussion was out of sync on the first couple of tunes the first night I went, along with Gregg on Ain't Wastin Time. Then he forgot the words on Black Hearted Woman the second night I was there. Yes, when they got into their jams, they were very good, but it took them a while to get there sometimes. They did seem somewhat under rehearsed at times and looked like they were mailing it in. I just don't think they took this run as serious as others. The second night I seen them, no one said a word to the audience until the end when Gregg thanked everyone for coming? What's up with that.
 

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  posted on 3/25/2010 at 08:12 PM
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I know I don't post often , but I've been a long time member of the Peach Corp & have seen the Allmans way too many times to count going back to 1972. I have been to 2-3 shows just about every NYC run and this was by far the sloppiest I've seen them play. The percussion was out of sync on the first couple of tunes the first night I went, along with Gregg on Ain't Wastin Time. Then he forgot the words on Black Hearted Woman the second night I was there. Yes, when they got into their jams, they were very good, but it took them a while to get there sometimes. They did seem somewhat under rehearsed at times and looked like they were mailing it in. I just don't think they took this run as serious as others. The second night I seen them, no one said a word to the audience until the end when Gregg thanked everyone for coming? What's up with that.


For the two Saturday shows that I was at, the band sounded very tight to me.

 
 


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