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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 01:43 PM
It's just my opinion (and you know what brother Duane always said about opinions) but despite the brilliant music being created each nite, this run just doesn't have the overall family vibe we've all known and loved in and around the Beacon. Even the band doesn't seem to be having as much fun (okay, oteil always seems to be having fun). I am 2 and out at the UP this year. Usually hit about 75% of the shows. Does anyone else miss not being able to say hello or goodnite to the band at the stage entrance, or seeing the same folks you been seeing for decades in a local pub? For me it was what made the whole overall experience so amazing.
Moogis was the answer this run...great music (Derek has raised the bar again) and my own reserved parking space, private bathroom with no lines, cold cheap big beers and shots of good whiskey (and the only one spilling drinks on me is ME!!)... and two minutes after the PA plays Little Martha I'm passed out on the sofa or on my way to bed... all that toll, gas, parking and beer money safely tucked back inside my wallet!

 
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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 01:55 PM
I do agree to a point with you. You can not get near where the band when they enter. No one really hangs out in front. I think a lot of people make the vibe bad themself's. People not going because its "Upton" get a grip. Someday when they are not around anymore people will be like"Damn, i should have went when i had the chance" I saw rows and rows and rows of empty seats on the floor on monday night . So sad. I saw a guy outside selling row DD ,$100 for the pair. People bitch about the Beacon and now bitch about the UPT. Go and enjoy
 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 02:30 PM
In 2008 we hand nothing here in NYC, and going to the UPT is much better than that! It clearly is missing the ABB history and familiarity for all of the Beacon experience, but I go to my 3rd and last show on Friday and it is still the ABB and the 3/12 and 3/15 shows have been great. I can't wait for Friday.

It is somewhere around 15 years straight I have been hitting the Beacon shows (excluding '08) and while I hope it is a one off and they are back at the Beacon next year, I am enjoying the very different but fun UPT ride!

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 02:34 PM
True, It's not the same as the beacon but I have to say that I enjoyed the UP experience way more than I expected to.

Also the Beacon of the past few years, wasn't really like the Beacon vibe of old anyway.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 03:09 PM
There is not a side entrance to say hello to the band?

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 03:16 PM
I suspect the vibe will feel similar this weekend when the HTN mag folks have their preparty and those familiar faces all move uptown to the show. I know a good bit of the regular listserv folks are making this weekend too.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 03:31 PM
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There is not a side entrance to say hello to the band?


If you are standing facing the front of the theater, the band enters on the left side. They have the whole street blocked off there, so the band members arrive in black town cars and they are dropped off right in front of the entrance.

The security will keep you on the opposite side of the street so you can't get anywhere near the band. It is a little sad because Warren and Derek signed an album for me last year and this year you can't even get close enough to say anything to them.

[Edited on 3/17/2010 by filmmajor]

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 03:46 PM
Vibe, schmibe. New Yorkers are very fortunate to have had all the Beacon, RCMH and now UPT shows over the years. If the music is btilliant, anything else should be looked upon as a gift. You know how many ABB shows have occurred in a proper theatre in Atlanta over the last 21 yrs? Eight. The same amount as this one year's abbreviated run.

I'll see what I can do to increase the vibe when I arrive tomorrow. Good music in a nice venue iis all the vibe I'll need, and I suggest that's plenty for everyone else too. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 04:07 PM
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Vibe, schmibe. New Yorkers are very fortunate to have had all the Beacon, RCMH and now UPT shows over the years. If the music is btilliant, anything else should be looked upon as a gift. You know how many ABB shows have occurred in a proper theatre in Atlanta over the last 21 yrs? Eight. The same amount as this one year's abbreviated run.

I'll see what I can do to increase the vibe when I arrive tomorrow. Good music in a nice venue iis all the vibe I'll need, and I suggest that's plenty for everyone else too. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Well said, Brock. As long as the band is playing great and the guy next to you doesn't puke on you or fart excessively the vibe will be great.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 04:14 PM
Last night Me and 5 of my friends hit the United Palace to see the Brothers . I first have to thank everyone in the forms who gave out good advice about the uptown show . We stayed at a hotel Next to the Beacon , so we needed to get on 2 trains to get to the show . I was a little nervous as being from Jersey I do not know the Subway system . Also we were short on time , and wrong transfer might have us missing the show . After hitting the "1" train to 59th st , we needed to transfer to "A" train . For us we needed to go the left , a nice Indian girl took us and showed us the way . We were on the "A" for 23 minutes . When you get off at 175thstreet station go toward the sign 175 street , when you get to the street , look for all the lights and traffic . This is Broadway and the venue is 1 block up. My Friends were hungry , we made a left on Broadway and hit a Spanish diner 3 blocks up . All the people we friendly and , and the food was good . Not sure of the name of the food , it was all cooked before hand and we pointed to it . I had some sort of Big Taco and 2 sodas and it was $3.25 ....not bad ,,, my other friend had Ribs , rice and a beer $11.00 . We hit the show @ 8:00 we were up in the balcony . Most of this section was not sold , have been going the Beacon shows for years this was a little strange . But good for us as we had any seat we wanted and were able to spread out . The sound in the United palace theater was perfect , I was able to hear highs and lows without issue . The show was great , I would say the Beacon shows were better last year .But the Brothers were on fire most of the night , Like most of their shows, certain songs had Magic , like " Forty Four Blues and That's What Love Will Make You Do - w/Eric Krasno . We all had a great time , a little out of our element but I have to say I had a smile on my face as it was cool and different . They are very strict with people smoking in the theater , but they let us go out the front door and smoke and come back in. If you get a chance go up town , the Architecture is amazing and they might never play there again. Moggis is good , but cannot create the real experience .

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1. Take the "A" train , its one block away , go toward 175th street sign , look for Lights and traffic , this is Broadway . A cab will be expensive and not sure I saw allot of cabs after the show .
2. Stay for the last song and leave with the crowd , it not a bad neighborhood but this is the smart thing to do .
3. If possible eat near the Venue , it cheap and the food is good .
4. Even thought every staff person at the United Palace theater told us no smoking , during the break they let us out the front main doors and had to show tickets to get back in .

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 05:47 PM
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I suspect the vibe will feel similar this weekend when the HTN mag folks have their preparty and those familiar faces all move uptown to the show. I know a good bit of the regular listserv folks are making this weekend too.


Speaking of the HTN mag folks, as soon as you walk in to the UPT on any given night, just look to your right and you'll see smiling, friendly Joe Bell ready to greet you.
When I got there Joe was standing next to Gregg Potter. Those two are familiar faces to me and I walked right up and chatted with them first. That started the family flavor of the night for me. Then when I got to my good seats row HH Center, I met JohnJ from this site and had some good conversations with him along with other cool bros.
It felt like family to me. I expect it to continue over the weekend!

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 06:08 PM
the vibe was just fine, the music was great and everyone has had great times . I agree the lack of ticket sales and excitement on the website has dulled the experience a bit. Its too easy to score great seats!!! hahaha

the run is way to short, only 3 shows to go and they still have not even played Les Brers and no Juke Horns or Ronnie H. Now that is a bit scary.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 07:04 PM
same here =chatted a bit with greg potter he's such a nice guy (his wife is too)
 

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  posted on 3/17/2010 at 11:24 PM
OK..........Here's what I say. Since 1989, I have only missed about 5 Beacon shows and was quite nervous about this years run at the United Palace. I've been fortunate to be at every show @ the UP thus far, although I have to say the price of the tickets is making it more and more difficult to endure. I'm sure the newer younger fans who can't afford to spend up may account for many of the empty seats, and that's a real shame. Nobody, (including me) likes change when it takes them out of their comfort zone. I'm sure this wasn't so easy for the Bros. either. With that said, The UP is a very beautiful place inside, very Cool and the sound is great. The security guys are the old Beacon crew, Kevin,Richie, Mario, etc. Great guys, very helpful, really into the band and thrilled to be working the run there. The area is fine, ( I haven't read of anyone being murdered outside the venue yet). I've discovered some excellent restaurants that I would have never found, and plan to return after the run. Owners and employees bending over backwards to be nice and helpful, serving excellent food at a very reasonable price. The parking sucks like everywhere else in the city, and I hate getting the event pricing shoved up my butt, (but it's still cheaper than down by the Beacon). At least it's only a few short steps to the theatre. The real story here is the Allman Brothers are on fire every night ! Those guys come out EVERY night and give it their all to insure a blow away show, (just like at the Beacon) ! They're having fun, and they are trying really hard to deliver a memorable performance each and every night.
3 shows left folks, seats available ? Go see these guys and enjoy, you'll be glad you did !
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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 12:49 AM
I thought friday and saturday were two of the best ABB shows I've seen ever.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 08:05 AM
Went Tuesday night. Had a great meal at El Conde across the street. The UP sound was fine I was a row behind the soundboard. I would say it was better than the Beacon. The overhang in the UP is about a foot higher than the Beacon so you dont feel like you are in a cave. My only issues with the show Tuesday was the crowd. I am not sure if the problem is that the people going are "lesser" ABB fans due to good ticket availability but wow so much talking during the show really sucks. A good portion of the crowd infront of me actually satdown during Liz Reed.
Bottom line if you are local and love ABB this is a great opportunity to see a show. Tickets are cheap on the street, I am going again tonight.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:03 AM
actually, i agree with Charlie O.

an analogy would be the Yankees with their two stadiums. The vibe in the new building, despite the great product they put on the field last year, is not the same as the old one.

but worse, it would be like the yankees were playing in a harder location to get to, the prices are jacked up, and the vantage points and intangibles were worse.

it's still great to see the yankees and we would miss them if they were gone. but Charlie is right - the vibe is not the same as last year or the previous years.

there's nothing wrong with what Charlie said - it's his opinion and one i agree with. there is something exciting about going to the Beacon. The venue is historic for a reason.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:09 AM
I'll find out tonight! But I bring my vibe with me, usually. I go with friends, and that is who I want to see and talk to. I never expect to meet or hang out with the band; they have their own pals too.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:10 AM
I LOVE going to the Beacon to see ABB. I went to the 3/13 UPT show and am also going to 3/20. I thought that the level that the band was playing at on 3/13 was some of the best I have ever heard and seen. I also thought the crowd was great. Yes, I miss the Beacon, but the UPT vibe was fine for me.
 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:26 AM
i'm going to all but 2 shows. i usually go to 5 or 6 beacon shows (per run) since 1990
the beacon got too commercial for me in the past few years. massive pat down,long lines i call it Dolanized. I LOVE THE UP THEATER. THE BAND IS BETTER THAN EVER (I SAY THAT EVERY YEAR) I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PARKING IS 75 CENTS AT THE METER AND IF YOU SEARCH AROUND THERE IS PLENTY OF GOOD FOOD.

I hope they play here for the next ten years. never thought i'd say this but fcuk the beacon.......UP rocks and so do the brothers.

people w/ doubt of unfamiliary territory can stay home and relive the beacon in thier head
I'M GOIN UPTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:29 AM
BTW make your own vibe and you'll have plenty o'fun

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 09:43 AM
Here is my take..

Went on Saturday and Tuesday (going Friday again). Neighborhood really is not the greatest, but not the worst. Parking is not that great in lots as they are small and mainly not run well. Street parking...difficult. Restaurants are okay, but certainly not as much variety as UWS.

As for venue-sound was quite loud on Saturday (possibly my ears recuperating from Alice in Chains)...much better on Tuesday. A bit more high end than Beacon...but overall good.

I am in Upper Loge for all three show (row B, D, J), not as good as beacon Loge, more like lower Balcony (so ticket prices were not comparable to seats at Beacon).

So the walkway in front of Upper Loge and Balcony is busy and distracting the whole show. Never able to settle in and watch show without somebody doing their flying Walenda imitation or the lovely couple trying to be the highlight of the show danciing in chairs, aisle back and forth all night. As well as people sitting on folded up chairs in Lower loge and continually talking and moving around. If you are not gonna sit and watch show, go drink at bar. And way too many people getting up and down all night long...I felt like I was with my children needing to pee 10 times a night....

Overall okay, but this is not as cozy and comfortable as the Beacon... and by the way..Banana Schpeel opens April 29....


 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 11:25 AM
Did anyone really expect it to be as big at a new venue after 20 years at The Beacon? Give it some time, but rumor is they'll be back at The Beacon next year anyway.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 11:39 AM
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There is not a side entrance to say hello to the band?


If you are standing facing the front of the theater, the band enters on the left side. They have the whole street blocked off there, so the band members arrive in black town cars and they are dropped off right in front of the entrance.

The security will keep you on the opposite side of the street so you can't get anywhere near the band. It is a little sad because Warren and Derek signed an album for me last year and this year you can't even get close enough to say anything to them.

[Edited on 3/17/2010 by filmmajor]


What happened did they become rock stars or something? They have always been accessible to the fans, except Gregg who has that 'ain't no way in the world, I'm going out that front door, cause there's a man downstairs, might be your husband, I don't know' type of problem. The women want him, and he can't say no, so sometimes there could be a few wanting to have a word with him.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2010 at 11:39 AM
The Beacon is the Beacon and it is so unique and special that of course the UPT is different. I will be gald if they get back to the Beacon in 2011, but anyone who has a chance should catch these UPT shows as they have been dyn-o-mite!

 

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