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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 06:59 PM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


A Joe Girardi firing would change that.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 07:05 PM
How ( and why) would a SS's age matter?

Just a odd statistical thing to me, nothing more.

Pitching will do the Yanks in, and nothing more.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 07:13 PM
Ok.. average SS numbers.

Plenty of teams have won with average shortstops.

Its all about pitching, and I dont like what I see from the Yanks right now.
I hope I am wrong.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 07:59 PM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


Except Chuck's comment is actually true.

 

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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


A Joe Girardi firing would change that.


DUDE!

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 08:03 PM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


A Joe Girardi firing would change that.


Doesn't matter. The Yankees are a flawed team. It wouldn't matter who the manager is.

This is what happens when you don't realize that players get old. No team has won a World Series with a shortstop as old as Jeter. Only one team has made it to the WS with a SS that old, 1956 Dodgers (Pee Wee Reese).




Of course the Yankees are flawed. As is every other team still playing. Couldn't we wait until the Yanks actually you know lose before you dissect why they lost? As for an old shortstop, what a ridiculous stat. When Jeter's age starts costing them runs then you might have a point. At this point the Yankees have one significant flaw, they do not have a trustworthy number four starter and Hughes is unproven. Sabbathia is not going to pitch like that again. Pettitte has been and I expect will be dynamite. Rivera who actually is 40 continues to be lights out. Posada can't catch but then he never could. Much of the rest of the team is not especially old at all. For example, Texiera, Cano, A-Rod, Swisher, Granderson and Gardner. Where you get the idea that this team is old I have no idea.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 08:04 PM
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How ( and why) would a SS's age matter?

Just a odd statistical thing to me, nothing more.

Pitching will do the Yanks in, and nothing more.


Because few shortstops are good at age 36. What did Jeter hit, .270? 10 Home runs? .710 OPS? All the lowest of his career. He never had great range and he has lost a lot. Anyone who thinks Jeter is still a good player is looking through pinstripe glasses.




Let me get this straight. You are not arguing that he is no longer a "great" player which is definitely arguable. You are arguing he is no longer even a "good" player? That's absurd.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 08:08 PM
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Ok.. average SS numbers.

Plenty of teams have won with average shortstops.

Its all about pitching, and I dont like what I see from the Yanks right now.
I hope I am wrong.


Chuck it is going to come down to whether Sabbathia can turn back to his real self and whether Hughes can pitch more like he did in the first series. I expect Sabbathia will. I think it is rust and there is just nothing we can do about that. Hughes I hope will. To me the lineup needs to start hitting more. As Lupica pointed out today, they had 5 runs in one inning and 3 runs in the remaining 17. But they did hit the ball hard the other day and that's why they give you three losses. Cause sometimes you don't get the breaks. Of course the Hughes pitched them out of the game yesterday as Sabbathia did on Friday but the Rangers pitched themselves out of a 2-0 lead and they may come to regret that. Yankee bashers ALWAYS find a reason the Yankees will lose. And sometimes they do but way more often than any other team they don't.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2010 at 08:09 PM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


A Joe Girardi firing would change that.


DUDE!


Who gave up all of those runs? C.C. , Hughes or Girardi?


I like Girardi. Iliked him as a player and I like him as a manager.

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 04:13 AM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes



There's a first time for everything, and right now the Trinity Christian Eagles 6 man football team from Aledo is generating more excitement than the Cowboys.

And watch out if Vlad and Josh actually start hitting. THis series could really heat up this week in NY. It is exciting.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 06:33 AM
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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes



There's a first time for everything, and right now the Trinity Christian Eagles 6 man football team from Aledo is generating more excitement than the Cowboys.

And watch out if Vlad and Josh actually start hitting. THis series could really heat up this week in NY. It is exciting.


If the Yankees pitchers pitch like they can pitch no one will heat up. If they pitch like the first two games everyone will heat up.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 06:55 AM
Phillies tied it up 1 - 1

off to San Fran now

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 09:53 AM
Cain vs. Hamels, another good one -- Hamels was their top dog when they won 2 years ago

 

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Pretty funny when the Rangers are generating more excitment in dust bowl country then the Cowpokes




Or the Jets generating more excitement than the Yankees.


A Joe Girardi firing would change that.


Doesn't matter. The Yankees are a flawed team. It wouldn't matter who the manager is.

This is what happens when you don't realize that players get old. No team has won a World Series with a shortstop as old as Jeter. Only one team has made it to the WS with a SS that old, 1956 Dodgers (Pee Wee Reese).




Of course the Yankees are flawed. As is every other team still playing. Couldn't we wait until the Yanks actually you know lose before you dissect why they lost? As for an old shortstop, what a ridiculous stat. When Jeter's age starts costing them runs then you might have a point. At this point the Yankees have one significant flaw, they do not have a trustworthy number four starter and Hughes is unproven. Sabbathia is not going to pitch like that again. Pettitte has been and I expect will be dynamite. Rivera who actually is 40 continues to be lights out. Posada can't catch but then he never could. Much of the rest of the team is not especially old at all. For example, Texiera, Cano, A-Rod, Swisher, Granderson and Gardner. Where you get the idea that this team is old I have no idea.


OK, you get on me for predicting the future and then you say that CC won't pitch like that again... Whatever. Are you telling me that Jeter hitting .270 in the leadoff spot didn't cost runs? Are you saying his range, which experts say wasn't that great and has diminished, didn't cost them runs? Yeah, pinstripe glasses.


Over the cost of the season? Of course. Especially compared to what he did in the past. Over the cost of the post-season? No. He has played effectively so far. ANd if you think Derek Jeter is just a below average shortstop when the playoffs start then you probably thought he was just a pretty good player in his hey day and consistently discounted his unique ability to come up big inbig spots. It's an easy thing to do when you don't watch the team play day in and day out.

I said it ws unlikely Sabbathia will pitch so poorly again and it obviously is given his track record.. I asked you not to dissect the reasons the Yankees lost until they actually lose. Not the same thing. Of course if you want to do so in advance you can. I can't stop you.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 10:06 AM
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How ( and why) would a SS's age matter?

Just a odd statistical thing to me, nothing more.

Pitching will do the Yanks in, and nothing more.


Because few shortstops are good at age 36. What did Jeter hit, .270? 10 Home runs? .710 OPS? All the lowest of his career. He never had great range and he has lost a lot. Anyone who thinks Jeter is still a good player is looking through pinstripe glasses.




Let me get this straight. You are not arguing that he is no longer a "great" player which is definitely arguable. You are arguing he is no longer even a "good" player? That's absurd.


I'm arguing that he is an average player now. The stats back me up.


He had one bad season. If he never hits above .270 again you will be right. At this point it is an aberration. His range is down but he is still an effetive shortstop.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 04:48 PM
This whole thing is stupid and cluttering up the baseball thread. I'm deleting every one of my posts except for this one. I am sorry if I offended anyone by defending Derek Jeter. Let's get back to baseball.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 04:51 PM
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This whole thing is stupid and cluttering up the baseball thread. I'm deleting every one of my posts except for this one. I am sorry if I offended anyone by defending Derek Jeter. Let's get back to baseball.


I thought we were talking baseball.


No we were fighting. I left in my posts where we were talking baseball. You can do what you like with yours.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 04:52 PM
On a new subject I will predict the following regarding tonight's game: The team that scores the most runs will win.

 

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This whole thing is stupid and cluttering up the baseball thread. I'm deleting every one of my posts except for this one. I am sorry if I offended anyone by defending Derek Jeter. Let's get back to baseball.


I thought we were talking baseball.


No we were fighting. I left in my posts where we were talking baseball. You can do what you like with yours.


It sounded like a local bar sports discussion to me.


Well that smiley face makes me feel all better. Now let's go Yankees

 

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This whole thing is stupid and cluttering up the baseball thread. I'm deleting every one of my posts except for this one. I am sorry if I offended anyone by defending Derek Jeter. Let's get back to baseball.


I thought we were talking baseball.


No we were fighting. I left in my posts where we were talking baseball. You can do what you like with yours.


It sounded like a local bar sports discussion to me.


Well that smiley face makes me feel all better. Now let's go Yankees



Fixed that for you.


It took me two minutes to figure o ut how to do that

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 07:07 PM
Andy doing just what I expected through 5. The Yankees have got to find a way to break through against Lee.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 08:39 PM
A brilliant even historically great game by Lee. The Yankee bull pen implodes in the 9th. But let none of that detract from the fact that 87 year old Andy Pettitte pitched 7 excellent innings and gave up only two runs. Just as I predicted he gave them a chance to win even against the great Lee. In hindsight of course had he pitched like this on Saturday we might be up 2-1 instead of down 2-1. But there was no reason to predict total disaster from Hughes.

 

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  posted on 10/18/2010 at 09:01 PM
Wow! They blanked 'em!!

 

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  posted on 10/19/2010 at 01:42 AM
The Phillies let Lee walk away without even offering him a contract.
I really think they made a big mistake allowing that to happen,
hope it don't come back and bite the phillies in the ass.

 

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  posted on 10/19/2010 at 03:46 AM
All I have to say is..


 

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