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  posted on 2/21/2010 at 09:43 AM
I was kind of expecting a new Archival CD to come out in 2009. Have they discontinued this series? Has anyone heard anything definite?
 
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  posted on 2/21/2010 at 09:27 PM
Anyone?
 

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  posted on 2/21/2010 at 09:29 PM
Butch said there was a new one coming soon (in the chat on Moogis tonight).
 

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  posted on 2/21/2010 at 10:31 PM
Every once in a while there would be a rumor that a Duane era archival CD was being prepared for release, but would always fail to materialize. But if Butch actually mentioned that something is coming, then I'd definitely believe it.

I'm always hoping that the complete set from the great Watkins Glen Summer Jam 1973 is released!!

 

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  posted on 2/21/2010 at 11:07 PM
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"I'm always hoping that the complete set from the great Watkins Glen Summer Jam 1973 is released!!"


That would be EXCEEDINGLY rewarding.

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 10:17 AM
Love to hear any Duane stuff released...there is some out
there....let it go! let it go! let it go!

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 10:22 AM
as one who owns about 30 allman brothers cd's I would say if the new archival release is going to be another one with the same 6 or 8 songs played in questionable fidelity ...pass!....the reason the grateful dead series is so good is that they have tons of different shows with all sorts of different setlists recorded well and remastered beautifully...i love the allman brothers music but i wlil stick with instant lives until they unearth something different
 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 11:52 AM
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as one who owns about 30 allman brothers cd's I would say if the new archival release is going to be another one with the same 6 or 8 songs played in questionable fidelity ...pass!....the reason the grateful dead series is so good is that they have tons of different shows with all sorts of different setlists recorded well and remastered beautifully...i love the allman brothers music but i wlil stick with instant lives until they unearth something different



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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 11:57 AM
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as one who owns about 30 allman brothers cd's I would say if the new archival release is going to be another one with the same 6 or 8 songs played in questionable fidelity ...pass!....the reason the grateful dead series is so good is that they have tons of different shows with all sorts of different setlists recorded well and remastered beautifully...i love the allman brothers music but i wlil stick with instant lives until they unearth something different


Yeah, it's a shame that the ABB wasn't the jam band they were cracked up to be...

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 12:15 PM
It will be released together with the new studio album.

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 12:30 PM
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Every once in a while there would be a rumor that a Duane era archival CD was being prepared for release, but would always fail to materialize. But if Butch actually mentioned that something is coming, then I'd definitely believe it.

I'm always hoping that the complete set from the great Watkins Glen Summer Jam 1973 is released!!


Id like a boxset from all the sets that weekend

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 06:05 PM
as one who owns about 30 allman brothers cd's I would say if the new archival release is going to be another one with the same 6 or 8 songs played in questionable fidelity ...pass!....the reason the grateful dead series is so good is that they have tons of different shows with all sorts of different setlists recorded well and remastered beautifully...i love the allman brothers music but i wlil stick with instant lives until they unearth something different

I've often thought about this. If you really think about it, as incredible as ABB are/were, they've never been the most prolific band in the world. In the Duane years, the setlist doesn't really vary much. In many cases, it seems they preferred playing covers (Trouble No More, Hoochie Coochie Man) over their own songs (Please Call Home, Every Hungry Woman). Although I do think any remastered show featuring Duane is a treat, the predictability of the setlist can be a bit disappointing.

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 08:27 PM
As one who would almost prefer a new archival release to be yet another Duane-era...my vote would go for a remastered and hopefully perfected copy of 12/31/70, New Orleans. Not only would you get a legendary performance, this date wouldn't be so setlist-redundant given that The Brothers pulled out SMOKIN' takes on Dimples, Leave my Blues at Home, and the ultra-rare Oh Pretty Woman...which is flat-out devastating. It offers another Duane-era take on the all-too-sporadically played, Dreams...and also is home to one of the SICKEST Post>Mtn. Jams...ever.
 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 08:48 PM
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As one who would almost prefer a new archival release to be yet another Duane-era...my vote would go for a remastered and hopefully perfected copy of 12/31/70, New Orleans. Not only would you get a legendary performance, this date wouldn't be so setlist-redundant given that The Brothers pulled out SMOKIN' takes on Dimples, Leave my Blues at Home, and the ultra-rare Oh Pretty Woman...which is flat-out devastating. It offers another Duane-era take on the all-too-sporadically played, Dreams...and also is home to one of the SICKEST Post>Mtn. Jams...ever.


+ 1 one of my favorite shows of all times....I even like the guys talking on the tape....

 

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As one who would almost prefer a new archival release to be yet another Duane-era...my vote would go for a remastered and hopefully perfected copy of 12/31/70, New Orleans. Not only would you get a legendary performance, this date wouldn't be so setlist-redundant given that The Brothers pulled out SMOKIN' takes on Dimples, Leave my Blues at Home, and the ultra-rare Oh Pretty Woman...which is flat-out devastating. It offers another Duane-era take on the all-too-sporadically played, Dreams...and also is home to one of the SICKEST Post>Mtn. Jams...ever.


+ 1 one of my favorite shows of all times....I even like the guys talking on the tape....


+2 I agree a great set list with a auld lang syne thrown in. F**king dynamite man....

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 09:54 PM
This one would be awesome!

8-19-1973 @ The Fabulous Forum, L.A.

1. Wasted Words
2. Done Somebody Wrong
3. One Way Out
4. Stormy Monday
5. Midnight Rider
6. Ramblin' Man
7. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed
Set II
8. Statesboro Blues
w/Jesse Ed Davis
9. Southbound
w/Jesse Ed Davis
10. Come and Go Blues
11. Blue Sky
12. Jessica
13. You Don't Love Me
14. Les Brers In A Minor

This was a benefit show for the North American Indian Foundation. Opening acts were:
The Marshal Tucker Band and Boz Scaggs with Les Dudek

[Edited on 2/23/2010 by BIGV]

 

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  posted on 2/22/2010 at 10:55 PM
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I've often thought about this. If you really think about it, as incredible as ABB are/were, they've never been the most prolific band in the world. In the Duane years, the setlist doesn't really vary much. In many cases, it seems they preferred playing covers (Trouble No More, Hoochie Coochie Man) over their own songs (Please Call Home, Every Hungry Woman). Although I do think any remastered show featuring Duane is a treat, the predictability of the setlist can be a bit disappointing.


I slightly disagree with the implication here. The ABB were formed in 1969, and by 1972 two of it's most important players were unfortunately gone. They were an "immature" band in terms of its' development. Witness the Grateful Dead, the band most known for is' varied setlists and jamming acumen. In the first few years of the Dead, their setlists were similarly repetitive. They did many covers, and many of the same tunes each show (Dark Star, Lovelight, the Eleven, Not Fade Away etc) and probably for a longer period than the ABB. However--they had time to mature and grow. I am sure if we were lucky enough to have Duane and Berry longer it would have been a fascinating journey and growth curve with the ABB. That is why so many of us want as much Duane era stuff as we can get...cause that's all we can get.

Having said that they were prolific then, and left an amazing legacy in their path. I'd like to see some of the shows mentioned, as well as some later 70's stuff.

 

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Every once in a while there would be a rumor that a Duane era archival CD was being prepared for release, but would always fail to materialize. But if Butch actually mentioned that something is coming, then I'd definitely believe it.

I'm always hoping that the complete set from the great Watkins Glen Summer Jam 1973 is released!!


Id like a boxset from all the sets that weekend


The Grateful Dead's set is already in widespread circulation. However the soundboard contains some major flaws, though still listenable and enjoyable.

The Band's set remains a mystery. A few audience sources are in circulation. Back in 95 you all know that a bogus Band set was released and then quietly withdrawn. However this will probably dash our hopes of a legitimate release actually turning up.
If there actually is a complete Band soundboard we might never know.

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  posted on 2/23/2010 at 05:02 PM
Duane Era release would be nice and all,but it will probably be the same songs that have been on the others.But it would still be welcomed
 

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  posted on 2/23/2010 at 05:13 PM
The thing with the Duane shows, yeah the song titles might be the same. But man, if you listen to each version, they are completely different from eaach night. Listen to You Don't Love Me from each of the Archive releases and tell me that it's the same song. Man, they go in completely different directions with each version they played.

That's the great thing about the Duane releases that although there may be a few repeat songs, the music is fresh and new within the confines of each particular song...

I say bring on another Duane era release! PLEASE!!!!!

 

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  posted on 2/23/2010 at 05:55 PM
hoping for the one to one benefit show in,i believe, 1976 @ nassau on long island--MTB had a sizzling opening set with Dickey sitting in at the end & the ABB were amazing--would love that or any high quality DB,Chuck,Lamar era music.
 

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The thing with the Duane shows, yeah the song titles might be the same. But man, if you listen to each version, they are completely different from eaach night. Listen to You Don't Love Me from each of the Archive releases and tell me that it's the same song. Man, they go in completely different directions with each version they played.

That's the great thing about the Duane releases that although there may be a few repeat songs, the music is fresh and new within the confines of each particular song...

I say bring on another Duane era release! PLEASE!!!!!




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  posted on 2/24/2010 at 11:25 AM
I did a little bit of thinking about this last night and decided to see how similar each archive release is to one another. In spite of a few repeats, I still say each release is completely different than the next. I truly hope that the Archive Series continues and will support it fully. So letís take a look.

#1 American University

1. Statesboro Blues [4:34]
2. Trouble No More [3:49]
3. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' [3:46]
4. Leave My Blues at Home [6:45]
5. Stormy Monday [5:03]
6. You Don't Love Me [15:48]
7. Whipping Post [20:40]

- The only Leave My Blues at Home in the archive series
- The longest Whipping Post in the series
- Unique jam in You Donít Love Me
- The band sounds fresh and raw. They had a great vibe going that night.

#2 Stonybrook

Disc #1
1. Statesboro Blues [4:16]
2. Trouble No More [4:00]
3. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' [3:47]
4. Done Somebody Wrong [3:54]
5. One Way Out [5:08]
6. Blue Sky [11:26]
7. Stormy Monday [8:53]
8. You Don't Love Me [25:47]

Disc #2
1. Dreams [19:37]
2. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed [19:43]

- The only Blue Sky (and with Duane to boot) in the series Ė best ever version? Itís right up there.
- A full TEN more minutes of You Donít Love Me from Archive 1. Itís not even the longest version in the series. Ten minutes is a LOT of new music.
- Nearly a 20 minute version of Dreams? With Duane? Amazing! The only Dreams in the series.
- The longest version of In Memory of Elizabeth Reed in the series by over 5 minutes. Thatís a LOT of new music.
- The ABB at their peak with Duane. Tight arrangements and inspired jamming. The first few songs may sound a little rough (not quality studio sounding) but the overall package makes this the archive release to have if you only can have one. But really, why stop at 1?

#3 Macon

Disc #1
1. Statesboro Blues [4:09]
2. Done Somebody Wrong [3:34]
3. Ain't Wastin' Time No More [4:15]
4. One Way Out [6:49]
5. Midnight Rider [2:55]
6. You Don't Love Me [21:37]
7. Stormy Monday [7:58]
8. Hoochie Coochie Man [4:40]
9. Hot 'Lanta [5:07]

Disc #2
1. Les Brers in A Minor [11:14]
2. Trouble No More [3:53]
3. Whipping Post [15:45]

- One of the few recorded 5 man band shows.
- Only Ainít Wastiní Time No More in the series
- Only Hot ĎLanta in the series
- Huge jam in You Donít Love Me. A fresh, still brewing Les Bres.
- Clean sounding show. The band was out to prove they still had it Ė they still had it.

#4 Nassau

Disc #1
1. Wasted Words 4:58
2. Done Somebody Wrong 3:52
3. Statesboro Blues 4:15
4. One Way Out 7:42
5. Stormy Monday 8:46
6. Intros: Lamar & Chuck
7. Midnight Rider 3:13
8. Jessica 10:25
9. Come and Go Blues 4:58
10. Ramblin' Man 7:55
11. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed 15:06

Disc #2
1. Trouble No More 4:02
2. You Don't Love Me 6:19
3. Les Brers in A Minor 19:12
4. Whipping Post 18:40
5. Mountain Jam 31:05

- Totally unique sounding show with Chuck Leavell with long jams in nearly every song
- The only Wasted Words, Jessica, Come and Go Blues, Rambling Man and Mountain Jam (all 31 minutes of it) in the series.
- Again, great, unique jams in nearly every song. Disc 2 is a jam fest!
- Great sounding release.

#5 Boston

1. Tuning - 2:01
2. Statesboro Blues - 4:43
3. Trouble No More - 4:53
4. Don't Keep Me Wonderin' - 4:14
5. You Don't Love Me - 26:08
6. Hoochie Coochie Man - 5:36
7. In Memory of Elizabeth Reed - 13:02
8. Whipping Post - 18:48

- Longest You Donít Love Me in the series. Twenty minutes longer than the version on #4!
- Unique jam in Whipping Post
- Only Hoochie Coochie Man with Duane in the series.


So, thereís at least one and usually several songs on each release that canít be found on any other archive. So that right there shows a difference between each release. But digging deeper shows completely different versions of repeated songs. Look no further than the 20 minute difference between the You Donít Love Me on #4 and #5. Thereís a 10 minute difference between the You Donít Love Me on #2 and #1. Thatís a lot of music thatís completely fresh from release to release.

Anyway, I truly hope the series continues as weíve been blessed with a lot of great music so far. But knowing thereís a lot still out there is exciting Ė and frustrating, too.

Bring on more Archives!

 

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The thing with the Duane shows, yeah the song titles might be the same. But man, if you listen to each version, they are completely different from eaach night. Listen to You Don't Love Me from each of the Archive releases and tell me that it's the same song. Man, they go in completely different directions with each version they played.

That's the great thing about the Duane releases that although there may be a few repeat songs, the music is fresh and new within the confines of each particular song...

I say bring on another Duane era release! PLEASE!!!!!




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