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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 01:03 AM
went to the Buddy Guy/BB King show.

I gotta say UPT is at least as nice as the Beacon. It's definitely
more ornate. The interior is stunning. I took some pics with my iCrap:

http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt1.jpg
http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt2.jpg
http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt3.jpg
http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt4.jpg
http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt5.jpg
http://www.longliveleo.com/upt/upt6.jpg

The sound was great where I sat (far left orchestra 5th row), but I
was right in front of one of the large PA structures.

The view is fine from the far sides. The stage has a circular end.
However, both acts I saw were about 10-15 ft back from the end of the
stage, though Buddy and Rick walked out to the stage end a couple of
times (Buddy walked through the audience also). Also, the far
left first few orchestra seats are raised up about 5 inches so you're more
eye level with the people on stage.

The only viewing issue I had from the far side of the orchestra was
Buddy's keyboard player being hidden by three columns of boxes on both
far sides of the stage - there were three columns of boxes about 5, 6,
and 7 ft respectively. Not sure if they were monitors. They were
removed for BB's act.

The restroom, as has been mentioned, is on the 2nd floor. For
orchestra people, note there are two side stairways so you don't have
to use the main atrium stairway. The men's room probably had 10-12
urinals and 6 stalls. I waited like 30 secs when I went right before
the show and no wait when I went 10 minutes after the show.

There are two restaurants across the street from the UPT (west of UPT).
One is a steakhouse. Not sure about the other one - it was busy though
both right before the show and right after.

I got beer very fast. There was only one beer choice and the guys were
constantly filling cups so there were several cups ready at any time.
Of course, this could be different for ABB. There was a beer stand
next to the entrance and one upstairs next to the restrooms.

As far as the subway situation, the station is just one block away.
There was some cloggage after the show with people trying to get
through the turnstile 1 at a time. Then somebody smart opened the
emergency exit door and everyone filed through. The platform was not
crowded but I waited a little bit after the show before leaving. The A
train runs local late night!

BEWARE: as I was walking towards one of the other A train station
entrances, I saw 2 white guys start going through the pockets of 2
Latino teenagers as they tried to enter the station - I thought they
were getting robbed, then I saw a police badge on the neckline of one
of the guys. The cops were asking "you just came fron the concert? You
got weed? Guns?"

The cops didn't harass the large group of white people so YMMV.

An interesting note: at the end of the show the vendors were blowing
out the beer at $1-2. It cost $7 during the show for about 8 oz. Not
sure if this will happen with a long, steady run like ABB...

 
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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 08:34 AM
Thanks for all the good info.
Q: did they allow people in the orchestra to hang in the aisles close to the stage during the show?

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 10:39 AM
Thanks for the information this has been very helpful

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 02:47 PM
Thank you for your report.

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However, both acts I saw were about 10-15 ft back from the end of the
stage, though Buddy and Rick walked out to the stage end a couple of
times (Buddy walked through the audience also).

There's a line the band plays behind in order for the people sitting in the upper levels to be able to see.
If you ever sat in the balcony and a performer walks to the front edge of the stage you tend to lean forward in your seat to see better. If a performer goes into the front rows in the orchestra you maybe might see if you get up.
Also peeps sitting near the far walls up front in the orchestra are not entirely blocked by the amps situated on the stage sides.


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Thanks for all the good info.
Q: did they allow people in the orchestra to hang in the aisles close to the stage during the show?

If you click on that last pic which looks like Buddy Guy (white shirt) is in the orchestra. I notice two burly men that look like security? One is sitting in front of the lip of the stage. The other is a little crouched and in forward motion.
Things can be differant with the ABB. You notice people are seated in that last pic posted.
There seems to be a bigger gap between the front of the stage and the first row than there is at the Beacon?

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 07:20 PM
quote:
The sound was great where I sat (far left orchestra 5th row), but I
was right in front of one of the large PA structures.



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Also, the far
left first few orchestra seats are raised up about 5 inches so you're more
eye level with the people on stage.



What were your seat #s? Were you closer to the center aisle or closer to the left wall?
Is the whole Left Orch elevated, or just a few seats or rows?

Thanks.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 07:44 PM
quote:
Thanks for all the good info.
Q: did they allow people in the orchestra to hang in the aisles close to the stage during the show?


No

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 07:45 PM
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Thanks for the information this has been very helpful


You're welcome

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 07:52 PM
quote:
Thank you for your report.


You're welcome.

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There's a line the band plays behind in order for the people sitting in the upper levels to be able to see.
If you ever sat in the balcony and a performer walks to the front edge of the stage you tend to lean forward in your seat to see better. If a performer goes into the front rows in the orchestra you maybe might see if you get up.


That's a good point. I was hoping the ABB would move up on stage, but what you mention makes me think otherwise now. That's too bad - there's a lot of stage to move forward onto.

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If you click on that last pic which looks like Buddy Guy (white shirt) is in the orchestra. I notice two burly men that look like security? One is sitting in front of the lip of the stage. The other is a little crouched and in forward motion.


Yeah - I think there was two security guys that came out to surround Buddy when he walked out, and a third guy was handling the guitar cable and holding the mic sometimes.

Otherwise, security was pretty minimal. Weren't any walking up and down the aisle and I may have noticed one on the side of the front orchestra. I didn't see any standing in front of the stage like at the Beacon, but the Beacon had a higher stage.

Security wasn't frisking people either when entering the theater.

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There seems to be a bigger gap between the front of the stage and the first row than there is at the Beacon?


The gap was pretty big. You could probably fit 4-6 rows of people standing there. At the end of the show, it was about three deep with people trying to catch BB King's picks. He probably threw a couple hundred. Two guys surrounded him and just kept handing him handfuls of picks.

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 07:58 PM
quote:
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The sound was great where I sat (far left orchestra 5th row), but I
was right in front of one of the large PA structures.



quote:
Also, the far
left first few orchestra seats are raised up about 5 inches so you're more
eye level with the people on stage.



What were your seat #s? Were you closer to the center aisle or closer to the left wall?
Is the whole Left Orch elevated, or just a few seats or rows?

Thanks.


I was row EE 4 seats in from the center aisle. I think it was seat 122 or something - I didn't sit in my ticketed seat since the row was pretty empty. I scooted over. I purchased a seat in FF but somebody was in it so I just moved up.

I think only the double-letters up to LL are elevated. You can see it on the UPT seating chart.

https://www.carnegiehall.org/common/seatMaps/seatingCharts/facility_8.pdf

 

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  posted on 2/13/2010 at 10:44 PM
I was in JJ Orch and there was trouble with the sound,but a super,super show.
 

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  posted on 2/14/2010 at 07:01 AM
RCCOLA- Can you check your private messages...I sent you a question. Thanx
 

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  posted on 2/14/2010 at 04:44 PM
I have been to the UPT twice to see Bob Dylan. Once I was in the orchestra section and the other I was in the first row of the balcony.

I can say that I was not impressed with the sound at either show. The sound at the Beacon is much better. I think the sound is better in the orchestra section as opposed to the balcony but not much difference.

Security is pretty light, mostly teenagers who work there. If you take pictures of try to smoke you will get a flashlight in your face and be told to cut it out. At both Dylan shows security did not let people stand or dance in the aisles until the encore.

 

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  posted on 2/15/2010 at 03:44 AM
I didn't see any teenage security. Everyone I saw was at least 30. Half of them were women.

I saw one guy smoking and dozens of people taking pics. I didn't see anyone get yelled at for cameras except one guy who walked from the back all the way to the stage to take a pic and I think one guy sitting in the front row who was using a flash - a harmless looking woman walked up to him and said something, I think she was security.

 

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I didn't see any teenage security. Everyone I saw was at least 30. Half of them were women.

I saw one guy smoking and dozens of people taking pics. I didn't see anyone get yelled at for cameras except one guy who walked from the back all the way to the stage to take a pic and I think one guy sitting in the front row who was using a flash - a harmless looking woman walked up to him and said something, I think she was security.


Well Bob Dylan has a no pictures policy. It is highly enforced at his shows. I've been twice and while I like the interior of the UPT in my opinion its not as nice sounding as the Beacon and thats what really matters. It's bigger too.

 

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  posted on 2/16/2010 at 02:27 PM
I sat in CC and FF Orch Right (the even numbers) for Bob Dylan and viewing angles / sight-lines were not a problem at all. I think our beers and wines were 8$ each. No mixed drinks which I missed. A side note, I saw Elvis Costello in the Men's room at one of the Dylan shows and he just announced a show at the United Palace, so I guess he was happy with the venue.
 

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I sat in CC and FF Orch Right (the even numbers) for Bob Dylan and viewing angles / sight-lines were not a problem at all. I think our beers and wines were 8$ each. No mixed drinks which I missed. A side note, I saw Elvis Costello in the Men's room at one of the Dylan shows and he just announced a show at the United Palace, so I guess he was happy with the venue.


With the loss of the Beacon to MSG, I'm not surprised that a place such as the UPT has begun to pick-up some momentum. There has to be a venue in this size class that will host and be loyal to something other than top 40 nonsense (or a fancy circus )


I am beginning to be concerned with all of the chatter about poor sound. I'm sitting in almost every section over the course of the run, so we'll see. However, the band did say they could overcome an acoustic issue with their sound systems. With 13 shows to amplify, I'd bet it's more worth while to put something up and tweak it. It's not a one nighter, up and down.

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Security wasn't frisking people either when entering the theater.




Its gotten ridiculous at the Beacon and I often wonder if its legal if someone wanted to make an issue out of it
At the Stoney Pony, last time I saw Mule, the person at the door made me empty my bag, took out my prescription medication and I had to stop her from pouring it into her hand after she had her nose in it. Ironic since security at that show appeared to be made up of people who looked like gang members. It's become tiring since I'm usually with my son and handicapped daughter

 

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  posted on 2/19/2010 at 04:16 PM
The Beacon frisks last year were borderline pornographic. They were all over everyone.
 

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  posted on 2/24/2010 at 03:36 PM
Did you notice any taxi's when you got out after the show? I was hoping just to be able to jump in a cab after the show...

 

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  posted on 2/24/2010 at 05:59 PM
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Your not going to find any yellow taxi's, like you would at the Beacon. There will be what are called gypsy cabs, however, these do not have meters in them. Make sure you agree on a price before the cabs move. As with any group of people, some are not so honest. But, if you know the correct price of the ride you'll take, you usually pay a bit less in the gypsy cab. Everyone seems to be panicing about the area, it isn't the ritzy part of NY. But, it is nothing like it was in the 80's which is what most people are talking about when they tell the horror stories, the police is out in force too. You might do better jumping on the train and going into midtown to get a cab to where you need to go.
I grew up less than a mile from where the theater is, and though I haven't lived in the area in many, many years, I have no worries at all of being in the area.

 

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I saw an article mentioning that the band was looking into renting a bar near to the UPC for the crowd to hang at. Anyone hear anything more about this?
 

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  posted on 2/25/2010 at 10:28 AM
Thanks Goldenlight....I also grew up in the city and am not worried about the area, I have a really bad back and was thinking more of comfort than security. I just haven't been up in the Heights recently, and didnt know if Taxi's were making there way up there since the gentrification started...

 

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  posted on 3/1/2010 at 07:43 PM
thanks for the review. glad to hear about the side seats cause that's where I'm sitting one night. I'd imagine they cut off beer sales mid way into the 2nd set like the Beacon?

I'll plan on hauling ass out of there right as the show ends so I don't have to fight the crowd too much to get on the A train.

 

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Thanks Goldenlight....I also grew up in the city and am not worried about the area, I have a really bad back and was thinking more of comfort than security. I just haven't been up in the Heights recently, and didnt know if Taxi's were making there way up there since the gentrification started...


Yellow cabs seem to be rare around here. You'll find them on Ft. Washington between 176th and 181st and also near the Hospital. There are plenty of black cabs though. There's actually a cab stand on the corner of 181st and Ft. Washington, across from the Starbucks.

 

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thanks for the review. glad to hear about the side seats cause that's where I'm sitting one night. I'd imagine they cut off beer sales mid way into the 2nd set like the Beacon?


They were still selling beer after the show. As I mentioned, they were selling the beer for $1-2 after the show.

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I'll plan on hauling ass out of there right as the show ends so I don't have to fight the crowd too much to get on the A train.


You and a bunch of other people...I lingered for 10-15 minutes and the train platform when I went had like 30 people. Wasn't crowded.

But, on both counts, it may be different for the ABB run. I'm sure a lot of people at the BB King/Buddy Guy show drove from nearby, while ABB fans will be coming from all over the world, so the trains might be more filled.

 
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