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Human microchips seen by some in Virginia House as device of antichrist

By Fredrick Kunkle and Rosalind S. Helderman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 10, 2010; B01



RICHMOND, FEB. 9 -- The House of Delegates is scheduled to vote Wednesday on a bill that would protect Virginians from attempts by employers or insurance companies to implant microchips in their bodies against their will.

It might also save humanity from the antichrist, some supporters think.

Del. Mark L. Cole (R-Fredericksburg), the bill's sponsor, said that privacy issues are the chief concern behind his attempt to criminalize the involuntary implantation of microchips. But he also said he shared concerns that the devices could someday be used as the "mark of the beast" described in the Book of Revelation.

"My understanding -- I'm not a theologian -- but there's a prophecy in the Bible that says you'll have to receive a mark, or you can neither buy nor sell things in end times," Cole said. "Some people think these computer chips might be that mark."

Cole said that the growing use of microchips could allow employers, insurers or the government to track people against their will and that implanting a foreign object into a human being could also have adverse health effects.

"I just think you should have the right to control your own body," Cole said.

The religious overtones have cast the debate into a realm that has made even some supporters uneasy and caused opponents to mock the bill for legislating the apocalypse.

Del. Robert H. Brink (D-Arlington) said on the House floor that he did not find many voters demanding microchip legislation when he was campaigning last fall: "I didn't hear anything about the danger of asteroids striking the Earth, about the threat posed by giant alligators in our cities' sewer systems or about the menace of forced implantation of microchips in human beings."

Microchips, which use radio frequency identification, have been used in pets to identify and track them. Proponents suggest that such chips could be invaluable in making people's medical records portable and secure and in helping to identify and find missing children. Others have urged they be used with Alzheimer's disease patients.

But the growing use of microchips has collided with the Book of Revelation. The biblical passage in question is in Chapter 13 and describes the rise of a satanic figure known as "the Beast": "He causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

David Neff, editor of the magazine Christianity Today, said that some fundamentalist Christians believe that bar codes and implanted microchips could be used by a totalitarian government to control commerce -- a sign of the coming end of the world.

"This is part of a larger attempt to constantly read current history in the light of the symbolic language of the Book of Revelation," he said.

That book has been sifted for clues to contemporary events almost since the ink on the parchment dried, and Caesar, Nero, Napoleon, Hitler and some of history's other controversial one-namers have been identified as possible antichrists. Now, it's President Obama's turn, as tea partyers and others warn of federal intrusions into the debate over health-care reform.

Now, the book is giving new life to worries about microchips.

Such fears seemed futuristic until veterinarians began implanting microchips in pets in the 1990s and especially after a Delray Beach, Fla.-based company, VeriChip, introduced an implantable FDA-approved chip in 2001 that could store a person's medical records.

A voluntary initiative by the federal government to control disease outbreaks by tracking livestock using microchips and 15-digit numbers has also whipped up fears of government intrusion in some farming communities.

"I think it's kind of a lot of things. It's everything from civil liberties to privacy rights to the mark of the beast," said Katherine Albrecht, a nationally syndicated radio host who co-wrote "Spychips," a book about corporations' use of microchips and other potentially invasive technologies.

Several states, including Wisconsin, have approved bans such as the one Virginia is proposing, and the Georgia Senate passed a similar bill last week.

Virginia Del. Charles W. Carrico Sr. (R-Grayson) said that he would probably back the bill because his rural community is leery of government intrusions. But Carrico said he also gives credence to biblical teachings on the importance of being vigilant against an antichrist.

"As a Christian, I believe there is a time that Christ will come back to receive his people home, and that's just the basis of what the Bible shows, and that there will be an antichrist that arises during that time, and those that remain, to buy or sell anything, they will have to take on this mark," Carrico said. "I don't know that it's a microchip."

As the measure moved through House committees, Del. David B. Albo (R-Fairfax) said that lawmakers wrestled with whether the military or military contractors should be able to require that employees receive implants as a condition of employment.

"This whole end-of-days thing I just heard about through rumors," Albo said. "The fact that some people who support it are a little wacky doesn't make it a bad idea."

Others dismissed the legislation, calling it a sideshow as lawmakers grapple with a huge budget gap.

"We've got a $4 billion hole, and we're spending time on microchips," said Del. Albert C. Pollard Jr. (D-Northumberland). "At least when Nero fiddled, they got good music."




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  posted on 2/11/2010 at 12:28 AM
1. I didn't realize this was even being done....against someone's will or not and
2. Really? The Anti-Christ?

 

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Ann there was an entire family down here a coupla years back in Boca Raton,that voluntered to have the chips implanted in the whole family for research.They appeared on The Today Show etc explaining their experience ,and how they thought it was the coolest thing since shaved ice.And then went on to tell how great it would be to use in finding missing persons etc.Add to that the govt being able to track your every financial move & where abouts.No cash or idendity theft as well.You'd just have funds deposited to your account electronically,they'd scan ya at the store,& the funds needed would then be subtracted outta your account.Oh yeah ! it's quite real.And folks round here that wish to dismiss it as tin hat material better get their heads outta the wax.On the other hand i'm sure there will be millions that'll buy into the gig like sheep,after the govt has played the propoganda hand out.And then proceed like their doin now by creating a problem unknowing to the people.And at the same time having a coupla solutions in their pocket to introduce to the population to acheive their goals at hand.
LMFAO !!!! I'm sure the Perry Mason WP Team will be out in full force soon to explain all this away.And of course the enlightened as*hole Barry ,ooop's i mean Barack would never do anything to further regulate & control the people

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  posted on 2/11/2010 at 08:57 AM
The govt. could track you now, unless you pay cash for everything, don't use a laptop or a cell phone, etc...
 

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  posted on 2/11/2010 at 09:11 AM
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It might also save humanity from the antichrist, some supporters think.

Sounds reasonable to me.

 

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The govt. could track you now, unless you pay cash for everything, don't use a laptop or a cell phone, etc...



Well unless they've gotta satellite honed in on me 24/7,they don't know where the f*ck i'm at.Because i generally pay cash(cept here & there) don't carry a friggin laptop with me(let alone have one) & 75% of the time i don't have a cell phone,while out in the world.And as far as the fraud,indenity theft,missing persons crap goes.Thats exactly the mindset they want society to be in.
The state we're in started a long,long, time ago.They knew it would be a sequence of small steps to get to where they wanted to be.I beleive Clinton started one of the balls rollin forcing banks to lend to folks who couldn't afford a house.And then even with real estate prices goin into orbit & folks scurring round gobbling up houses & land at unheard of prices like there was no tommorrw.And banks still lending money to folks that in no way could afford it.And then the big staged bail out gig and the bright & shining one with hope & change against the old man with skin cancers that they said wouldn't make it thru his first term as president.I mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
As far as Beck,O'reily etc.Man them cats are just gate keepers.Kinda like a pacifier in folks mouth to think they gotta say.
So please Oti,ST,SCB & a host of others ,Get friggin off the Obama train line with all the hoo-lah about how great this moron is.He's just another wheel in the gears of the machine.Just like Bush,Clinton etc.
I'd say the best hand we had as a president in this century was Truman.But if some of ya'll wanna debate till the cows come home, how what Obama is doin is so great,have at it.Their playin ya'll like tic-tac-toe at first grade level.
Screw that flashy smile, blue jeans & beer summit crap.The peice of crap is out to take care of buisness in bringing this country to it's knees & totally under the thumb of the govt.Keep your eyes peeld as to how it continues to play out on the world stage.
And if some of ya'll have no problem with having a chip implanted in you. To track your every move & transaction in the name of preventing idenity theft ,to help find missing persons etc.Or maybe if we go belly up,the excuse will be it's the only way to monitor consumption of goods etc.
Please take some acai berry juice,vitamins,a double expresso ,ANYTHING ! But wake the F*ck up & let those cells upstairs out to pasture to breathe.

 

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  posted on 2/11/2010 at 11:22 AM
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Finally, a rep who is working on behalf of the paranoid and deluded. Also, isn't it funny to hear a GOP legislator from the south utter these words:

""I just think you should have the right to control your own body," Cole said."

This quote is brilliant though:

""We've got a $4 billion hole, and we're spending time on microchips," said Del. Albert C. Pollard Jr. (D-Northumberland). "At least when Nero fiddled, they got good music.""





Glowy,how bout you man ? Are ya ready to have a chip implanted ? I bet if Obama said it was the only & best thing to do.You'd be down there waiting like someone camping at Best Buy for a Chrsitmas sell.

 

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Well unless they've gotta satellite honed in on me 24/7,they don't know where the f*ck i'm at.Because i generally pay cash(cept here & there) don't carry a friggin laptop with me(let alone have one) & 75% of the time i don't have a cell phone,while out in the world.



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^^^ The above was written on a processing device made up of all kinds of microchips, and sent through an internet hookup that could be traced back to an IP and a location by most any teenager with a working knowledge of computers. Just FYI.


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This thread is hilarious on many levels.

 

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It might also save humanity from the antichrist, some supporters think.
Sounds reasonable to me.
LMAO!!! Too funny!
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This thread is hilarious on many levels.
That it is.

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Well, they're going to have to hunt me down and hold me down to implant anything in me or my family. I know I can be traced by my computer and cell phone and probably my GPS, but all of those devices can be turned off and then I'm off the loop. If I ever wanted to 'disappear' I darn sure know enough to pay cash for everything.

Personally, despite all the good reasoning behind have the chip implanted, I'm going to pass.

 

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+ The lock upon my garden gates a snail thats what it is +

 

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I beleive Clinton started one of the balls rollin forcing banks to lend to folks who couldn't afford a house.


Um, no.

 

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+ The lock upon my garden gates a snail thats what it is +

+ The caterpillar sheds his skin to find the butterfly within +

 

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+ Oh Wanita, oh Wanita, oh Wanita, I call your name.
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'The Time Has Come,' the Walrus said, 'To Talk of Other Things.''Of Shoes and Ships and Ceiling Wax; and Cabbages and Kings'

 

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+ Tutti Frutti, oh Rudy,
A-wop-bop-a-loo-wop a-lop bam boo +

 

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EZ Pass is the devil on your dashboard!
 

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EZ Pass is the devil on your dashboard!


Oh, no! I have a computer, a cell phone, a GPS, and EZ Pass and I'm all out of Reynolds Wrap. I'm screwed!

 

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LOL at the 'no implants' sign. And not because of any microchip rumours.

 

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What if the Mark of the Beast is your IP address?

 

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As someone with a family member with Alzheimer's, I think an implant is a good idea. The only improvement would be a GPS component to find them should they go missing.

 

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I have to agree with you ST. Both Johnny's dad and mother made a break for it on more than one occassion. His dad left the house one night and was over trying to get into his brother's hardware store on a busy road and his mother would walk out the door every chance she got. We finally had to stop her from driving before it got so bad because one day she and a neighbor left to go to a beauty salon they'd been using for 25 years and they got lost. We didn't see them again until several hours later because they were lost.

I would have no problem with something like the technology similar to a cell phone where the person could be located. It's very scary when someone manages to get out of the house at night and you can't find them.

 

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