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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

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no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

??? The video and commentary seem to support the newpaper quote above. Fumbled twice by Baskett and ended up in Reis possession. Unless the sports commentators were also paid off.


the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 05:26 AM
The onsides kick was the gutsiest call I have ever seen in a Super Bowl.

The Colts couldn't ask for anything more than Manning to have the ball in his hands with 5:00 minutes left on the clock and down by 7.

If it weren't for Drew Brees, we may have had a kicker get the MVP. If the game had gone to overtime, and the Saints had won it by a field goal, they might have had a hard time not giving it to the Saints kicker.

Congratulations to the Saints and New Orleans, they deserve it!




[Edited on 2/8/2010 by jerryphilbob]

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 06:55 AM
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the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?


1-800-bawanh..

Caldwell didn't complain about the onside kick
Manning didn't complain about the onside kick
The announcers didn't complain about the onside kick
NOT ONE commentator on ANY channel has questioned the play

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The one thing that struck me was the pregame.
You'd a thunk the Saints were playing themselves. It was 3 1/2 hours of New Orleans woes. I understand there was a hurricane, but I don't recall 1 story about Indiana anything.

 

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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

etc, etc


no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

??? The video and commentary seem to support the newpaper quote above. Fumbled twice by Baskett and ended up in Reis possession. Unless the sports commentators were also paid off.


the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?
To me that video appears to show that Baskett was not in possession when everything hit the fan out there. Here's another video ... it had already bounced from Baskett's hands and away from his position on field before everybody (including Baskett in another attempt to recover) took a dive on it. I'm not seeing people "jumping on top of Baskett while he's holding the ball".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9t6rpmmDro&feature=related




[Edited on 2/8/2010 by lolasdeb]

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 08:46 AM
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Best superbowl in many years.


Ehh i don't about that. Last year's was quite good as well as the Giants-pats and pats-panthers a few years ago.

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 10:39 AM
very happy the saints won and i dont think the call made a difference.

I found the game to be a bit slow and boring although most everyone found it exciting. I didnt see much hard hitting or any spectacular plays except for the interception. Not much runnings, very little downfield passing and a bunch of field goals.

Colts were outcoached and that is why they lost this one IMO. Peyton should have been in the no huddle from the beginning and pushed it up when saints were in trouble early on. Terrible clock management and play calling at the end of the first half. It almost seemed as if Indy was afraid to score quickly or open it up as they usually do. They also dropped 3 or 4 passes.

Anyhow, congrats to the saints, great to see them win it all!!!

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 11:28 AM
The Colts coach, very classy guy. Good post game interview.
 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 12:35 PM
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The Colts coach, very classy guy. Good post game interview.


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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."





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no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

[Edited on 2/8/2010 by matt05]



actually the 2nd saints player at that bottom of the pile had his arm around the ball and was down by contact.

so a replay would have shown that and awarded it to the saints.

in a pile it is about who wants the ball more.

I am usually very critical of the refs but I didn't see any glaring errors. I actually agreed with
the ref that said incomplete on the 2 point conversion overturn, but that was a very very close call
to over rule. I think it could have gone either way.

as far as holding goes, Offensive linemen have been getting away with murder ever since LT started dominating games. The game has shifted to give the advantage to the offenses with rule changes and attitudes.

But I didn't see any really bad calls.

The Saints Defense did a great job of keeping the Colts offense under control, and The Saints kept the ball moving on offensive and enough time of possession to keep it away from Manning.

Phil Simms said just before the interception that Shaun Peyton told him that they would mix up the defensive late to confuse the Colts and Manning threw into coverage and the DB made a great play.

That and the onside kick were the difference making plays that a team needs to win the Superbowl.

Congrats to Shaun Peyton for having the guts to make the decision to on side kick. had it failed he would have been the goat. I thought Shaun should have gotten Reggis Bush the ball more, but other than that I think he called the right plays to beat the colts and keep Manning on the bench as much as possible. He and Brees showed patience and executed.

Williams mixed his defenses and was agressive. as were his players. which was not surprising given they played aggressively all year. it is attitute and it
starts at the top.

and Willams players studied film

Tracy Porter quote:

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I saw it over and over on film the past two weeks, Porter said. On third down, the route they ran there was always big for them to convert third downs on. Through numerous amounts of film study weve done all week, when the route came, it felt like I was watching it on film. When I saw the ball coming, I knew I was going to be in the end zone.



The Saints were the aggressive team on both sides of the ball and that won the game for them. Not any blown or missed calls.





[Edited on 2/8/2010 by spacemonkey]

 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 04:03 PM
just a great interception, INDY played scared all day and lost playing scared. You just cannot play like that in big games. I was very surprised. Trying to run out the clock at halftime, not using no huddle til the end, the Colts just looked tentative all game.
 

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 07:54 PM
Nobody seems to have noticed a couple of things. Early on Peyton Manning did the New World Order (Skull and Bones/Illuminati) hand gesture at his coach. One of the referees also did that several times, and on top of that Emmett Smith did it also at the coin toss. Brees made mention of God and for once something good happened. Well what would you do if you were God, let a team called the Saints win or give it to a team whose QB does the Illuminati hand gesture? For those of you who missed it, get the tape from nfl.com and see it for yourself.

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  posted on 2/8/2010 at 08:18 PM
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Early on Peyton Manning did the New World Order (Skull and Bones/Illuminati) hand gesture at his coach. One of the referees also did that several times, and on top of that Emmett Smith did it also at the coin toss
hahahahahahaha!!! That NWO really gets around! I'm surprised anybody won this game.

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Nobody seems to have noticed a couple of things. Early on Peyton Manning did the New World Order (Skull and Bones/Illuminati) hand gesture at his coach. One of the referees also did that several times, and on top of that Emmett Smith did it also at the coin toss. Brees made mention of God and for once something good happened. Well what would you do if you were God, let a team called the Saints win or give it to a team whose QB does the Illuminati hand gesture? For those of you who missed it, get the tape from nfl.com and see it for yourself.

I saw that too! If Fox had carried the game they would have pointed it out.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2010 at 08:01 AM
Matt

There is holding and illegal contact on virtually every play of every game. It was very refreshing to have the refs let them play for a change.

Amazing, a nice, clean game and still got some jacka$$ whining about the officials. Some people will never be satisfied. Who knows that happens in a scrum...you play ball Matt? Had your eyes poked to get you to release a ball before? Been bitten by an opposing player?

My 2 year old is in his crib crying now, should I get him out so you can go in there?

 

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<<Nobody seems to have noticed a couple of things. Early on Peyton Manning did the New World Order (Skull and Bones/Illuminati) hand gesture at his coach. One of the referees also did that several times, and on top of that Emmett Smith did it also at the coin toss. Brees made mention of God and for once something good happened. Well what would you do if you were God, let a team called the Saints win or give it to a team whose QB does the Illuminati hand gesture? For those of you who missed it, get the tape from nfl.com and see it for yourself. >>

You've got to be kidding me. You are just not from this planet. What a whackjob.

 

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  posted on 2/9/2010 at 08:55 AM
I was at the game and partying all weekend down in South Florida. Of course I was wearing all Colts stuff the whole time...we partied w/MANY Saints fans and, frankly, they couldn't have been more fun, more cool, nice, appreciative...just wonderful people.

Even during game we were SURROUNDED by all Saints fans and, except for one drunk dickhead (who finally came around and acted like a person by the 2nd half), everyone couldn't have been more fun and cool. All the fans really got along on both sides all weekend. I don't think there are two more 'connected teams in the NFL. and, by that, I mean all of the obviousn NO/IN ties.

The game was a tough loss for me, but GOOD FOR NO, Louisiana, all those fans, and Drew Brees. Class Act.


 

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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

etc, etc


no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

??? The video and commentary seem to support the newpaper quote above. Fumbled twice by Baskett and ended up in Reis possession. Unless the sports commentators were also paid off.


the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?


Matt05, Man up and quit whining. Next time don't bet more than you care to lose.

 

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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

etc, etc


no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

[Edited on 2/8/2010 by matt05]


No , Reis is holding the ball with his arm and hand at the bottom of the pile, you can see that when Baskett dives
in. He held on to it during the scrum and came up with the recovery despite the colts trying to rip it out.
He had control and was down by contact when Basket dove in , had they gone to a replay, That would
have been the ruling, I think.

the call is correct.

 

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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

etc, etc


no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

??? The video and commentary seem to support the newpaper quote above. Fumbled twice by Baskett and ended up in Reis possession. Unless the sports commentators were also paid off.


the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?


Matt05, Man up and quit whining. Next time don't bet more than you care to lose.


i don't bet on sports and i'm a diehard jets fan. just like the vikings/saints game i watched unbiased and saw the missed calls and obvious ref favortism (sp?)

 

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did the saints pay off the ref's before the playoffs started or something. i mean seriously tons of holding calls missed, an onside kick that #81 on the colts recovered
Sour grapes? The Colts player did not recover that kick ... he touched it but it was a Saints player who recovered it.

"Thomas Morstead had his kick touched by the Colts' Hank Baskett, then recovered by Chris Reis at the New Orleans 42."

"Payton opened the second half with an onside kick. Indianapolis Colts special teams player Hank Baskett mishandled the ball twice and Chris Reis of the Saints came up with the ball in a wild scrum. It took officials a full minute to award New Orleans possession."

etc, etc


no the 2 saints players missed the ball and hank baskett recovered it. it was then taken from him when the other players piled on top of him so the ref's said saints ball.
watch this replay. Reis clearly is not holding the ball when Hank dives in and puts his arms around it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgTnT1XPL6A

??? The video and commentary seem to support the newpaper quote above. Fumbled twice by Baskett and ended up in Reis possession. Unless the sports commentators were also paid off.


the video shows baskett with it in his hands as people jump on top of him. the play is supposed to be dead once someone has possesion of it nott when the ref's stand everyone up. this is just like the phantom 4th and inches conversion that the saints supposedly made but didn't or the 2 other bad calls in that saints/vikings overtime. how can the announcers see clearly who is holding the ball?


Matt05, Man up and quit whining. Next time don't bet more than you care to lose.


i don't bet on sports and i'm a diehard jets fan. just like the vikings/saints game i watched unbiased and saw the missed calls and obvious ref favortism (sp?)


Yea, Right, thats why you're here on The Allman Bros. website crying about a game your team wasn't even in. Right. The Saints beat your Jets by two touchdowns and they beat six quarterbacks with super bowl rings including three in the playoffs. And they can line up against the Colts again tonight and beat them again. "Cry, baby, cry. Make your mother sigh"

 

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  posted on 2/10/2010 at 04:09 PM
The refs sure can change a game, though. What was the really egregious one, was it the Steelers and Seahawks a few years back? WOW, the Steelers must have been sleeping with the refs! Anyone who thinks refs can't be cheating does not follow sports.
 
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