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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 11:47 AM
Has this been asked before? What's your least favourite ABB album and Allmans-related album? Peakin at the Beacon wins it for me (hypocritical to release it, but it does show why there was issues with Dickey's playing at the time) and as I don't have as much access to all the Allman offshoots over here in the UK, It's hard to say about the related album, I even like Allman & Woman. Talking of which, for ABB/Gregg "completists" is it ever going to come out on CD, or has it been but I missed out?
 
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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 11:49 AM
Well there's that one that whats his name did with what's her name.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 11:54 AM
I don't see Peakin as hypocritical, I see it as a way out of the
old contract and a necessary step for Hittin the Note to happen.

I'll second the what's her name with what's his name.

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 11:57 AM
My least favorite? Those arista ones, the other day I pulled the" Brothers of the road" (vinyl) out. It didn't last long on the turntable after I couldn't find a cut I could bare.

But on the other hand, I happen to be a fan of "Win Lose or Draw"(not a classic but some good playing on it) one that I know will come up on somebody's least fav list.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 11:57 AM
Peakin's not great, but I don't see what makes it hypocritical.

I still haven't heard the two Arista albums - not that I've really tried to find them.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:04 PM
If you took the best songs off both of the Arista albums, you'd have one pretty solid record - one that's better than "Enlightened Rogues", IMHO...

Brothers of the Road
Leavin
I've Got A Right To Be Wrong
Mystery Woman
Famous Last Words
Things You Used to Do
Angeline
Never Knew How Much
From the Madness of the West
Maybe We Can Go Back to Yesterday
Hell & High Water
The Judgement
So Long

Not great, but not terrible.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:11 PM
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Peakin's not great, but I don't see what makes it hypocritical.

I still haven't heard the two Arista albums - not that I've really tried to find them.



""Reach for the sky" is tolerable but they were out of their eliminate on BOTTR. I read back then they were paid 500,000 a record with the hope arista could rekindle their dwindling audience. I caught them at something called the round up in Philly 81 and that driving forceful spirit was gone.. Sad actually... I was glad they reformed in 89 to what has become the all time best comeback. I think we would all like to forget things in our past and I'm sure the arista years qualify for the brothers..They tip toed backwards out of that Doobie Brother- disco era...

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:43 PM
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I still haven't heard the two Arista albums - not that I've really tried to find them.


I wouldn't suggest you try too hard Marley. Several years ago when I first started my ABB collection, I ran across a cassette of Hell and High Waters, Best of the Arists years. I don't recall the songs on it, but I didn't get through the entire thing. Still haven't...

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:49 PM
Yeah. I don't really intend to. I remember hearing Angeline on HTW Radio once.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:49 PM
Actually, that one doesn't bother me that much. Probably one of the better tunes, for what it's worth.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:50 PM
Didn't strike me as being Allmans-caliber, though. And if that's one of the better tunes, I think that tells me all I need to know.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:55 PM
"Never Knew How Much", "Leavin'", "Things You Used to Do", "From the Madness of the West" and "the Judgement" are all REAL good tunes. Nothing on par with "Dreams", but as good as anything on "Enlightened Rogues"...

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 12:58 PM
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Didn't strike me as being Allmans-caliber, though. And if that's one of the better tunes, I think that tells me all I need to know.
Yes, it does tell you all you need to know.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 01:05 PM
I'm almost sure that "Mean Woman Blues" was recorded for that album as well, but left off. It was played a few times in 1980.

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 01:29 PM
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I still haven't heard the two Arista albums - not that I've really tried to find them.


Hey Marley - Continue "not trying." I have em both - real tough time to be an ABB fan with Dickey in a blue leisure suit..........................

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 02:31 PM
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If you took the best songs off both of the Arista albums, you'd have one pretty solid record - one that's better than "Enlightened Rogues", IMHO...

Brothers of the Road
Leavin
I've Got A Right To Be Wrong
Mystery Woman
Famous Last Words
Things You Used to Do
Angeline
Never Knew How Much
From the Madness of the West
Maybe We Can Go Back to Yesterday
Hell & High Water
The Judgement
So Long

Not great, but not terrible.


I couldn't disagree more. some of the songs above aren't bad and some of them could have turned out better when they would have been performed without Mike Lawler on keys (don't get me wrong, he is a gifted musician but the other band menbers should not have gotten such an awful eighties syntz sound on their recording in the first place) and WITH Jaimoe (Brothers of the Road was the first and hopefully last album without him).
Enlighted rogues may not be a guitar / jam extraveganza but it's a damn fine and rock solid "reunion" album.
Even with the "best of" compilation album distelled from the 2 Arista releases it's hard to find a real stand-out track or a real gem for that matter.
But hey.......... it's all a matter of personal taste

 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 05:11 PM
Well, I agree and disagree with a lot here. One point I DEFINITELY agree with is that some of the songs deserve MUCH more credit than they get. Mostly because the production is so 80's. I don't blame Mike Lawler's musicianship, just his choice of instruments. hee hee. (I personally think "Leavin'", "Things You Used to Do", "From the Madness of the West" & "So Long" could have been, or are, great songs). Some of the other songs are getting way too much credit! - However, over all, it's hard to put on either album and believe that it's the same core band that had anything to do with EAT A PEACH. I thought ENLIGHTENED ROGUES was much better than either album. And though I think "Leavin'" & "Things You Used to Do" are probably the strongest songs from the Arista years, REACH FOR THE SKY is a much better album than BROTHERS OF THE ROAD. - All in my own opinion. - Then there are some other not-so-great ABB-related projects. TWO THE HARD WAY by Allman & Woman. Even the title is funny. (Oddly enough, Gregg's solo version of "Shadow Dream Song" is not so bad on there). I actually didn't like Gregg's I'M NO ANGEL very much either, again entirely due to the production, if I could get past that I might enjoy it. - Now I feel like I'm being negative talking about what I DON'T like! Let's talk about GOOD music...
 

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  posted on 10/28/2003 at 07:31 PM
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If you took the best songs off both of the Arista albums, you'd have one pretty solid record - one that's better than "Enlightened Rogues", IMHO...


This I disagree with....I heard all the Arista stuff and I barely remember it...but I remember most of Enlightened Rogues. I think the stuff on Rogues is stronger.

 
 


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