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  posted on 1/11/2010 at 03:43 PM
is anyone as pissed as i am about the venue for the march 2010 run?? this totallly sucks. of all the places across manhattan......
 
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  posted on 1/11/2010 at 04:04 PM
Is what it is...where would you rather have had it? I'm curious. I don't know too many 2,500 seat places here in Manhattan.

The only place I can think of is Town Hall, but Dickey played there when he came to NYC so maybe the Bros didn't want to do that

Gregg mentioned Nokia Theater in his NYT interview but didn't like it.

 

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  posted on 1/11/2010 at 04:18 PM
I believe Town Hall is smaller. And, for some reason I find it to be the most sterile venue. Never like the sound there. I believe I was the first to call UP when the Beacon issue came up. Area s**ks but the experience inside is the most Beacon-like of all the options. Unfortunately, to congregate before the shows we will need to devote an extra 60-90 minutes if we do it downtown.
 

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  posted on 1/11/2010 at 08:39 PM
There is a fairly nice place not too far from United Palace. 169st and Broadway, right near Columbia Presbyterian Hospital is a bar called Coogans. A bunch of beers on tap, and typical bar food. They have tables and plenty of room. It is about a 10 minute walk up Broadway to the Palace.

If your adventurous there are a bunch of Spanish restaurants in the neighborhood that serve really good, cheap food. Most also have brews on tap.

Never been inside United Palace, except when it was a movie theater like 30 years ago.


 

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  posted on 1/11/2010 at 09:56 PM
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I believe Town Hall is smaller. And, for some reason I find it to be the most sterile venue. Never like the sound there. I believe I was the first to call UP when the Beacon issue came up. Area s**ks but the experience inside is the most Beacon-like of all the options. Unfortunately, to congregate before the shows we will need to devote an extra 60-90 minutes if we do it downtown.


Interesting about the sound. Never been there.

Yes - Town Hall is smaller than the Beacon and the UPT, but it's the closest to the Beacon, as far as capacity, for the larger venues I know of. I'd be interested in finding out what other venues this size we have here. I honestly mostly attend shows at venues that hold 40-80 people.

Nokia: 2,100 seats
Town Hall: 2,300
Beacon: 2,800
UPT: 3,500

(all rough as it varies)

 

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  posted on 1/12/2010 at 04:47 PM
No question that the Nokia would have been perfect. It's right in Times Square, it's got seating and standing, and good bar areas. Phil and Fr. have had a few very successful runs at this venue. It was my choice. I am suprised to hear that Town Hall seats over 2k. I would have thought it was closer to 1000. I have been to UP, and once you are inside it is fine, but the location is just BRUTAL. I need to take a car service home from LI, but going I will train to midtown, party/eat, and then cab. Add $75 to the price of the experience. That being said, I will still have a great time when I get there.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2010 at 12:50 PM
Hello everyone..55 year old Irish ABB devoted fan since 1971 here...I am going to see the brothers at the UPT this year but just a heads up...I drove past the theater yesterday on my way home from Manhattan and it is in serious disrepair (outside). Hopefully they will spruce up the outside in the next 7 weeks but wow I can't believe the ABB settled on this venue. It is rundown for sure and the signage outside was highlighting Rev. Ike.

I was born in Manhattan (146th St and Broadway) and I spoke with my Mom the other day about this theater...when I was 5 in 1960 my Mom brought me here to the movies.
She was telling me that the theater gave away dishes and plates each time you went - if you went each weekend you could acquire a service for 8!!! Wow...

Anyway- we moved to the Bronx in 1961 and I lived there till 1980 so I'm used to a mosaic type neighborhood but I'm just posting to give my fellow ABB out of towner fans a heads up...this si not the Upper West Side..it is Washington Heights with a strong Dominican flavor....

Hable Espanol? have a great time everyone...the ghosts of Tito Puente will be out in force


 

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  posted on 1/14/2010 at 05:18 PM
Just curious if anyone knows exactly why The Brothers are not playing the Beacon this year, and playing the Palace instead? In the end I know it really doesn't matter why, they are still playing in NYC. Again, just curious. Thanks for any replies.
 

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  posted on 1/14/2010 at 05:29 PM
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Just curious if anyone knows exactly why The Brothers are not playing the Beacon this year, and playing the Palace instead? In the end I know it really doesn't matter why, they are still playing in NYC. Again, just curious. Thanks for any replies.


"Oh grasshopper. There is a man named James Dolan who owns the Beacon. he decided to book Cirque de Soleil for an extended period of time extending through march at that theater. /some people feel he has a right to run a business; others would like to see him join David Carradine"

 

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  posted on 1/14/2010 at 05:44 PM
Thank You Teacher, and I'm a believer of your latter statement.
 

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  posted on 1/14/2010 at 06:49 PM
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Thank You Teacher, and I'm a believer of your latter statement.


I had a friend who used to high up in the garden. I told him if Dolan gave a group of us a sky box and all the beer we could drink we could surely do a better job at being GM than anyone they had.

 

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  posted on 1/15/2010 at 02:22 PM
People, people.....I must say that I'm disappointed at the negative feelings towards the United Palace Theater! We're ABB fans not stuffed shirts going to see the three tenors at the Met. Who needs the squeekly clean and gentrified Upper West Side? I just moved up this way and happen to be about 3 blocks west and a little north. It's fantastic!

This is how we should be seeing the Brothers, in a theater that isn't owned by MSG in a REAL New York neighborhood with some authentic grit mixed in. Thank god we won't be anywhere near times square. That place is for tourists.

Can't wait! Pre-party at my place!! Better play your cards right!

 

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No question that the Nokia would have been perfect. It's right in Times Square, it's got seating and standing, and good bar areas. Phil and Fr. have had a few very successful runs at this venue. It was my choice. I am suprised to hear that Town Hall seats over 2k. I would have thought it was closer to 1000. I have been to UP, and once you are inside it is fine, but the location is just BRUTAL. I need to take a car service home from LI, but going I will train to midtown, party/eat, and then cab. Add $75 to the price of the experience. That being said, I will still have a great time when I get there.


Nokia was deemed too small.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/arts/music/06allmans.html

 

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  posted on 1/15/2010 at 06:43 PM
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Nokia was deemed too small.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/06/arts/music/06allmans.html


And the two key quotes from sir Gregg in this article:

“With our sound system, we’ll make our own damn acoustics.”

and the capper:

But one way or another, Mr. Allman said, his band would remain a fixture in New York. “I’ll play up there till I drop,” he said. “You can print that.”

 

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  posted on 1/16/2010 at 08:17 AM
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People, people.....I must say that I'm disappointed at the negative feelings towards the United Palace Theater! We're ABB fans not stuffed shirts going to see the three tenors at the Met. Who needs the squeekly clean and gentrified Upper West Side? I just moved up this way and happen to be about 3 blocks west and a little north. It's fantastic!

This is how we should be seeing the Brothers, in a theater that isn't owned by MSG in a REAL New York neighborhood with some authentic grit mixed in. Thank god we won't be anywhere near times square. That place is for tourists.

Can't wait! Pre-party at my place!! Better play your cards right!


Man I could not agree with you more. ABB will rock uptown for sure. I have seen some great shows at the Apollo Theater on 125th over the years. Up-Uptown is cool the hood will open it's arms to the shows. If you want to hit a good BBQ joint pre show go to Dinasaur BBQ on 125th and the river(west).

 

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People, people.....I must say that I'm disappointed at the negative feelings towards the United Palace Theater! We're ABB fans not stuffed shirts going to see the three tenors at the Met. Who needs the squeekly clean and gentrified Upper West Side? I just moved up this way and happen to be about 3 blocks west and a little north. It's fantastic!

This is how we should be seeing the Brothers, in a theater that isn't owned by MSG in a REAL New York neighborhood with some authentic grit mixed in. Thank god we won't be anywhere near times square. That place is for tourists.

Can't wait! Pre-party at my place!! Better play your cards right!


Man I could not agree with you more. ABB will rock uptown for sure. I have seen some great shows at the Apollo Theater on 125th over the years. Up-Uptown is cool the hood will open it's arms to the shows. If you want to hit a good BBQ joint pre show go to Dinasaur BBQ on 125th and the river(west).


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  posted on 1/17/2010 at 04:19 PM
Town Hall only holds 1500 and the sound sucks there. That being said, I'm not a fan of the location of the UP.

 

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  posted on 1/17/2010 at 05:57 PM
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We're ABB fans not stuffed shirts going to see the three tenors at the Met. Who needs the squeekly clean and gentrified Upper West Side? I just moved up this way and happen to be about 3 blocks west and a little north. It's fantastic!


here here fdny. glad we will not to be in a lilly white tourist mecca. how cool that you live nearby...

 

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  posted on 1/18/2010 at 12:28 AM
Well, they could have done what the Giants and Jets did - move to Jersey......

 

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  posted on 1/18/2010 at 10:55 AM
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People, people.....I must say that I'm disappointed at the negative feelings towards the United Palace Theater! We're ABB fans not stuffed shirts going to see the three tenors at the Met. Who needs the squeekly clean and gentrified Upper West Side? I just moved up this way and happen to be about 3 blocks west and a little north. It's fantastic!

This is how we should be seeing the Brothers, in a theater that isn't owned by MSG in a REAL New York neighborhood with some authentic grit mixed in. Thank god we won't be anywhere near times square. That place is for tourists.

Can't wait! Pre-party at my place!! Better play your cards right!


I'm with you 100% man. Just put a lengthy post on the 'where to stay' thread. The Heights is a MUCH better place to pre-party if you ask me. Would relish the opportunity to have a gang full of peachheads roll into Malecon, take over 4 tables, and order 8 chickens and a case of Presidente... !

 

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  posted on 1/18/2010 at 03:22 PM
Thanks for the Washington Heights backing!!

Anyway, I'm really new to the area so I'm not all that familiar. I'll have to poke around and elaborate afterwards.

I'll say this, if you're coming up here for the show, go to 181st Station on the A and head west a block or two. You'll find GREAT cafe's and restaurants. Then, all you'll have to do is walk back to Broadway and down 6 short blocks.


 

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  posted on 1/18/2010 at 04:56 PM
Well, at least it will be real easy to score drugs. This is drug central (the red zone). White people are routinely ticketed in this neighborhood after dark. The NYPD assumes they are there to cop.

 

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  posted on 1/18/2010 at 05:28 PM
LowLivers post about whites being stopped in the Heights is not as common as it was when Crack was king in NYC. Yes, the common view in the 80's and 90's was that any white person especially with a NJ plate was there for one reason, and feeding the homeless was not the reason they were there. More recently with the re-gentrification of Harlem and Inwood and yes, even the Heights that is not as common as it was. Upper Manhattan is a Melting Pot area with people of all ethnicities and backgrounds.

Crime in the area has gone way down and violent crimes are now more unusual than common as they were years ago. Concert goers to the ABB shows should feel as safe in the area of the Palace and the bars and restaurants in the Heights as they do on the Upper West Side. Is it a pain to get to in when comparing the palace to the Beacon, yes, but the vibe uptown is hard to describe and most will have a good time experiencing it.

Cuban Sandwiches and other good food at the area Hispanic Restaurants and bars, Great Pizza at Patsy's on Second Ave, Caporal Chicken on Broadway, Pub Grub at the Irish Bars in Inwood and Soul Food in Harlem are all different things that ABB fans can check off on their lists of things to do while in NY. Look at it as as opportunity to see a part on NYC that you would most probably never have done otherwise. Instead of seeing it as a negative make something good out of it. We are Allman Brothers Fans, we should be good at that.

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  posted on 1/19/2010 at 09:36 AM
It's been a long time since I've been to Washington Heights...spent a lot of time visiting at Columbia Presbyterian Hosp. which is pretty much right there.
Will say...at least for us from North Jersey...incredibly easy to get there over the GWB! Not so easy, I guess from other places. We usually stay in Soho for the weekend, have not decided if we'll just fly over the GWB...or stay in NYC and take a (really long) cab ride! Have tickets for both Saturday night shows so maybe will do one weekend over, and the other as a drive in/out.
Plan on taking a ride over just to find the theater, and scope out the area. Lot of mixed reviews on here...but I think the area has changed a lot in the past 30 years. Anyone been to Harlem lately? Wow!

I was totally annoyed when I read that Cirque du Soleil was taking over the Beacon...but to tell you the truth, ever since MSG took it over and re-did it (ok...it is beautiful)....it just wasn't the same. Grouchy attendants, RULES-RULES-RULES, etc. I kind of liked the old Beacon. Oh well....maybe it was time to move on. Instead of "peakin' at the beacon", I like the idea of "movin' on up"! :-)

See ya on the 13th and 20th!! Gonna' be a blast!

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  posted on 1/19/2010 at 01:56 PM
keep the info coming . and thanks. I will be sitting down with my copilots soon for a maping/ planning session. the main topics will be where to park and where to eat/ drink...and of course where will the other fans be.

 

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