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  posted on 10/21/2003 at 08:55 PM
Greetings from Hot'Lanta!

Wow - ya'll sure love the Allman Brothers! We are overwhelmed with orders for the Instant Live CDs, Stonybrook, Atlanta Pop and the various new CDs and DVDs that have just come out! THANK YOU for your wonderful support of the best music on the planet!

I wanted to keep you posted on how things are going, ask if you had any questions, and had several pieces of info to pass on...

As expected - those hot nights in Charlotte, Raleigh and Hartford went fast. Wish we could fill everyone’s order but there were very few to begin with. Once we realize what order # gets the last Raleigh/Charlotte/Hartford CD we will post it or e-mail it to everyone registered on our website, www.hittinthenote.com.

Indy, Pittsburgh and Darien Lake are selling fast - not sure if they are sold out yet - but I am sure they will sell out soon...so order now!

We're excited about getting this new product to you and are already hard at work processing your orders. Given the staff just got back from a four-day festival, we are about a week behind in our shipments - so look for the Instant Lives to start going out the door next week.

If you have questions, this forum would be a great way to minimize the phone calls to the HTN office during this busy time. I'll respond at least once a day, if not more often.

Thanks for your orders and your input,

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Home of Hittin' the Note Magazine

P.S. Would someone post this on the various list serves...thanks!


[Edited on 10/22/2003 by JNB]

 

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  posted on 10/21/2003 at 09:17 PM
Wow, that's great that they are selling that fast I hope I got my order in fast enough.

 

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  posted on 10/21/2003 at 10:36 PM
One huge question-why not make more copies? Supply and demand will only work if there is a supply. The demand is there but no supplies.

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 01:02 AM
What day did the discs go on sale?

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 05:14 AM
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One huge question-why not make more copies? Supply and demand will only work if there is a supply. The demand is there but no supplies.

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Actually as supply diminishes, and demand remains constant, cost will(can) increase.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 06:22 AM
Why Not take all of the orders that are currently on there and make up a final batch plus 10%. The demmand is there the sales are there at the end of the days its money going to teh band rather than the inevitable bootleggers who will take advantage.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 07:38 AM
Joe,

When these are gone and can't be purchased anymore, what is the bands policy on trading them?

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 07:55 AM
OK, John ya reeled me in.... 2 instant lives and Bonnaroo........

Question.....

When I was down there in 2001 for Beach to Peach we stopped in and I bought an Eat a Peach truck logo t-shirt... BUT.... not the typical white, it is an awesome blue shirt. Was that a one time run? Not available? MUCHO nicer than the white ones, real classy. I think better t-shirt too on top of that, seems thicker. Bring that baby back if it ain't now, I need 2000 of them, haha.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 08:47 AM
In regards to making more I believe there was an agreed upon limit with the record label, CC and the band. They would all have to agree and my guess is that 2 of the 3 wouldn't. I would encourage the band to work something out to do all or most of next years shows similar to the way "the Dead" does.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 09:00 AM
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One huge question-why not make more copies? Supply and demand will only work if there is a supply. The demand is there but no supplies.

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Actually as supply diminishes, and demand remains constant, cost will(can) increase.


That is my fear. Also Clay brings up a good point. If supply runs out these will get traded. Maybe that's Ok. Time will tell.

 

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Actually as supply diminishes, and demand remains constant, cost will(can) increase.


Ooooh, freshman macroeconomics! Oh the pain!

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 12:56 PM
I can't find it but I saw it. JNB, what is it that if purchased gives us $5 off renewal of HTN?

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 01:19 PM
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Actually as supply diminishes, and demand remains constant, cost will(can) increase.


Look at the cost of the ABB Master Fidelity Sound lab original master gold CDs. They go for over
$200.

But that will happen with limited releases.

This is limited.
Get it now while it's only $20.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 01:34 PM
I just picked up the MFSL gold discs of Fillmore East for $50 and Brothers & Sisters for $20 dollars in extremely Mint condition.

I feel like I got a pretty good deal...

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 02:07 PM
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Bring that baby back if it ain't now, I need 2000 of them, haha.


Tony what, do you do laundry every, oh....6 years? or do you wear three a day? too funny.

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 09:09 PM
I wash my old Pontiac with them.... nothing less touches that baby.....

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 09:44 PM
Finally wrapping up my day at the office, but with a job like this, how could I complain?!

To answer a few questions and respond to the input:

The HTN E-Digest went out on Sunday, October 19th.

Regarding making more copies once the Instant lives are sold out - there have been some discussions of this - but no final decisions. Once a decision has been made I will be happy to pass it on.

Concerning trading the Instant Lives once they are sold out for good – I have seen very articulate discussions on this subject that bring out good points both for and against trading/copying. I think the bottom line is that the ABB has been very good to its fan base and should expect (hope for?) the same in return.

Anyone who has purchased an ABB archival CD through Kid Glove is eligible to receive $5.00 off the subscription price to HTN. The $16 price is good only for the four issues intended. After that, the subscription goes back to the $21 price. If you are a new subscriber, an existing subscriber that wants to extend your subscription or if you want to give a subscription as a gift – there has never been a better time to buy it! The price on the web page says $21 but we will change it to $16 if your order history shows the archival purchase.

I like the various colors with the Eat a Peach logo as well – currently we have none but the classic white in stock. I’ll check out the possibilities of acquiring different colors.

Thanks for the support and input!

JNB


[Edited on 10/23/2003 by JNB]

 

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  posted on 10/22/2003 at 10:17 PM
Thanks for the update. it seems like it is possible to create more which is great news. Seems silly to have a limit to me. Hope we can all get copies.
 

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Regarding making more copies once the Instant lives are sold out - there have been some discussions of this - but no final decisions. Once a decision has been made I will be happy to pass it on.


[Edited on 10/23/2003 by JNB]


does this mean that there has been some surprise as to the demand of these releases. Is the demand higher or lower than the archive releases?

 

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  posted on 10/23/2003 at 07:46 AM
REGARDING INSTANT LIVE - HOW DO YOU RUN OUT??? -
WHY NOT MAKE MORE COPIES OF HARTFORD, RALIEIGH, AND CHARLOTTE????????

 

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Just wanted to put in my two cents here. - If a cd has been officially released but then goes out of print and I find someone who wants it, I will trade it for them. If the cd goes back in print I do not trade it. It's only fair. - So in this situation, with the Instant Live situation, if we find out no more will be made, I can't see not trading a copy. Especially because there are many people who are probably willing to pay for it, but didn't get their orders in on time. However, I certainly would wait to find out if more will be made. I want as much profit to go to the band as possible.
 

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Just wanted to put in my two cents here. - If a cd has been officially released but then goes out of print and I find someone who wants it, I will trade it for them. If the cd goes back in print I do not trade it. It's only fair. - So in this situation, with the Instant Live situation, if we find out no more will be made, I can't see not trading a copy. Especially because there are many people who are probably willing to pay for it, but didn't get their orders in on time. However, I certainly would wait to find out if more will be made. I want as much profit to go to the band as possible.


Its only fair to whom?

One thing you are missing is that this is a limited release and a collectable item.
Making illegal copies may not deprive the band of income once they are all sold
but it does damage to the collectability of the items. Maybe you don't care
about that but some that bought the CD's might.

The other possibility is that an agreement might be made to release more
of the same shows at some point. If you have been previously trading those
Instant live CDs you have diminished the market for the future release.
If you traded the shows you have violated the artist rights and access
to future profits. Perhaps the band has future plans that you
are not privy to? Things out of print don't always remain out of print.

The bottom line is the Instant Live CD is not tradeable and since the band
has allowed trading of audience recordings of the same shows there is no
good reason to trade the Instant Live CD. If the music is available elsewhere
why violate a copyright of an artisit you want to support?

So why would you violate the bands wishes and legal rights
by trading Instant Live CDs ?

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  posted on 10/23/2003 at 04:17 PM
Hey Bird72 - I think I may have found some blue EAP T's. I'll let you know for sure in a few days.

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"Its only fair to whom? One thing you are missing is that this is a limited release and a collectable item. Making illegal copies may not deprive the band of income once they are all sold but it does damage to the collectability of the items. Maybe you don't care
about that but some that bought the CD's might.
The other possibility is that an agreement might be made to release more of the same shows at some point. If you have been previously trading those Instant live CDs you have diminished the market for the future release. If you traded the shows you have violated the artist rights and access to future profits. Perhaps the band has future plans that you
are not privy to? Things out of print don't always remain out of print."

Okay, yes I see what you are saying and if the band wishes us not trade, of course I won't trade, but I think that should be stated by the band or whoever. A lot of time when music goes out of print it is because the company who owns it (not neccessarily the band) finds it more costly to keep in print than the profits they will make from it. Yes, I know there are several other reasons why music goes out of print, too. However, people who are looking for the music, for the sake of having the music shouldn't be forced to have to spend hundreds of dollars on those "collectable" discs, because it is the collector who receives the profits and not the band. And that is EXACTLY what happens. And I realize everyone is not like me, but if someone traded me this music while it's out of print and then it came in print, you bet I'm going to buy it anyway, because I collect music and I much rather have a nice store-bought copy than some burned thing I received in the mail. - If you limit people from having availabilty of a quality in demand product, the first thing you promote is pirating and bootlegging. Just look at ebay. - Example, I have burned the Traveling Wilburys albums for several people, simply because they cannot get them. This was years ago as they have been out of print for many years. - They will be reissued soon (probably 2004), but all those years ago, I saved some people from having to spend $75 per disc, where the profits would have went entirely to private parties and nothing to the musicians or Warner Brothers. So that was my original point. I didn't really mean to state that I was going to trade something against the band's wishes. In fact, I must've missed the point that it WAS against the band's wishes to begin with. But what I'm saying is that I think it's fair to the band and to their fans to get the music to them without others getting rich on it and I wasn't necessarily applying it strictly to the Instant Live cd's. - This is actually the problem with a lot of the "disputes" in the music industry today...


 

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Oh yes, one more thing I want to add about "collectables", again this all a matter of opinion. This is coming from a person who is into getting as much MUSIC as possible, but is also a "collector" of cds & vinyl. In my experience a collectable will always be a collectable, regardless of the music availability. Promo versions of cds with different artwork can go for so much more money, even when the music is already available. Over the years I was in the music industry I ended up with so much promo stuff. And people want all these things just because they are rare, it doesn't seem to matter if they already have the music. - For me, I'll take a pirated version of a rare b-side, just to have the music, but if I can get my hands on an official release, even after I have a "copy", I will always take the official release. But again, my money is always going to someone other than the artist, which is sad.
 
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