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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 10:28 PM
My friend keeps telling me he was a hack. Right place at the right time, he keeps saying.

Maybe he's just needling me because he knows I'm a huge fan.

 
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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 10:32 PM
Luck yes - but he is a solid timekeeper

With John, Paul & George (a Keith Moon style) would never had worked..... He kept the bottom end locked (and that is exactly what they needed)

Simplicity sometimes says so much more than a thousand notes ........

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 10:35 PM
One of the greats. He definitely got better as time went on.
During the early years (pre-1967), the popular music that was in Britain and America didn't really require much of the drummers. If you listen to a typical British invasion song, most of the drumming from any drummer was quite stylized, repetetive and simplistic. In my opinion, Ringo just followed suit.

By the time of LET IT BE and ABBEY ROAD, he was amazing. Lots of power and energy. Also he had a distinctive sound. It just took time to allow him to come through and he did

[Edited on 11/25/2009 by BarrySmith]

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 10:35 PM
How good is RINGO?, good enough to be a Beatle!.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 11:03 PM
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How good is RINGO?, good enough to be a Beatle!.


Then I'm right and he's a legend?

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 11:12 PM
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How good is RINGO?, good enough to be a Beatle!.


Then I'm right and he's a legend?


He was the drummer for the most popular band ever. How could he not be a legend?

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 11:26 PM
The opening drum riff for "Strawberry Fields Forever" is one of my favorites.

 

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  posted on 11/24/2009 at 11:48 PM
Damn good in my book....watch the Budokan concert sometime...Ringo's the best thing about it,IMO...I have the whole show on dvd .....& the quality is way better than this clip...but,this gives you a sample...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S3kttyy0Ko

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 12:21 AM
A lot of people watch footage of Ringo from those last years of The Beatles tours and see Ringo simply keeping time and think he's a hack, but they are mistaken - the crowds were so loud that he had little choice but to simply keep time and bang 1 and 3, little point for nuance when the crowd and the rest of the band can't hear it anyways. Ringo was one of the most sought after session drummers in Liverpool at the time. He's a pretty damn fine drummer.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 01:15 AM
Ringo e Molto Bene..Bravo Bravo Bravo

Ringo was picked by George Martin to replace Pete Best. He convinced the rest of them that it would be in their best interest since Ringo was known as THE drummer in the area. Jazz background, can play anything. He was being used by a lot of bands for recording and pickup gigs

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 01:30 AM
Ringo...solid as a rock.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 01:47 AM
A drummer that can keep up with those time and tempo changes is a good drummer in my book.
 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 02:36 AM
How good is Ringo?

IMO...MUCH better than he is usually given credit for.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 05:55 AM
How good of a drummer was Ringo?

Good enough

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 06:05 AM
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He wasn't any good. None of them was. Not a single one of them would have landed a job in Deep Purple.
Nuff said.


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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 06:10 AM
Any of you drummers out there know about Ringo. Try and duplicate the fills he did. A superb time keeper. Then there is his vibe he created. Ringo in my book was as good as there was / is.
 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 06:48 AM
Damn good Vastly underrated, IMHO

Just take a listen to his solo in The End

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 07:40 AM
Anybody who can make cymbals sound "backwards" ...

Well, I'm not a drummer but my brother was. Ringo Starr was influential to pretty much every kid who picked up sticks in the early 1960's. His set-up (drum and cymbal arrangement) pretty much became an industry standard. Simplicity might have been his trademark, but he definitely had a signature style.

And how many mere drummers get to hook-up with a babe along the lines of Barbara Bach?

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 08:01 AM
Ringo's reputation as a hack and the McCartney quote that he wasn't even the best durmmer in the Beatles is nothing more than rhetoric.

Ringo's style was and still is very similar to Charlie Watts. As a young drummer growing up in the sixties, Ringo and Charlie were the two that everyone emulated because of their immpecable time keeping abilites. Niether were flashy, but at the moment both were necessary parts of both bands.

Luck as your friend said had nothing to do with it. He was sought after at the time and his background was session and jazz ensemble work.

I have seen a few configurations of his all star bands over the years and he is no hack. No way he can attract some of the great players he does by being a hack for all these years.

Ringo like many of the first wave have the rightful place in RnR histroy.......

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 08:11 AM
Great timekeeper and his distinctive sound helped shaped the Beatles overall sound.
He was a left handed drummer paying a right handed kit. That fact slowed him down a bit while he did various drum fills and also baffles right handed drummers becasue they cannot duplicate his fills because the timing is off.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 08:21 AM
I'd say the correct answer is "good enough". He could keep time, but he certainly was not a great drummer in drummers' terms. I love the Beatles but as a drummer he was ample, the songs weren't super complex and he got the job done. The legendary status is (and not unwarranted) because he was a Beatle.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 08:58 AM
He did his job. Great drummer ? No, i don't think so
 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 10:11 AM
I look at it like this. If you asked 100 random people who Ringo is and ask the same random people who Butch is, I would imagine that people would know who Ringo is 10:1 over Butch. That in my book makes Ringo a hack.

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 10:14 AM
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Any of you drummers out there know about Ringo. Try and duplicate the fills he did. A superb time keeper.

That is a joke right ?

 

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  posted on 11/25/2009 at 10:34 AM
Well, we've had some Ringo threads before.

IMO, the great thing about Ringo is that he brings so much color, feel, personality, and sometimes humor to every Beatles song. He is what makes every song unique, an entity unto itself.

As for his growth from the early days to the later years, yes he involved plenty, as did the rest of the group. But even in his early days, on songs such as "love me do," "I want to hold your hand" and "I saw her standing there" and just about any song, it's all there.

And, as someone said in one of the previous threads, "Ringo swings."

 
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