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  posted on 11/18/2009 at 09:03 PM
First of all, I am a huge McCartney and Beatles fan, so this is a tough call to make. This is a terrible live album, and really only recommended for completists. What could have been truly wonderful is marred by the poorest production imaginable.

Maybe we are spoiled here, but the this "show" could have easily been accomplished in a studio and give the complete lack ambiance, it may have been. "Wings Over America" is a better live representation and that had overdubs that were legendary.

There are only two references to this actually being a live show; Paul's remarks at the beginning of this being in New York and a very short, almost clipped and muted reference to Billy Joel performing on "I Saw Her Standing There". I have a recording of the opening show from Halifax, and Paul is quite talkative between songs, truly enjoying performing in front of a live audience and interacting with them. This is as bland as the Live in the US show set from a few years ago, but the sound on that was better.

I have only watched a few minutes, but the DVD seems a whole lot better than any of Paul's DVDs from the past, so for only $14 for the two discs and the DVD, I guess it is a decent deal, though I won't probably ever listen to the show again (preferring the Halifax show).

Thank God (truly) for the Allman Brothers and all the effort they put into allowing us to share and enjoy the music. I have gladly bought many shows this year, though I only attended one. We are lucky ...

 
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  posted on 11/18/2009 at 09:07 PM
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First of all, I am a huge McCartney and Beatles fan, so this is a tough call to make. This is a terrible live album, and really only recommended for completists. What could have been truly wonderful is marred by the poorest production imaginable.

Maybe we are spoiled here, but the this "show" could have easily been accomplished in a studio and give the complete lack ambiance, it may have been. "Wings Over America" is a better live representation and that had overdubs that were legendary.

There are only two references to this actually being a live show; Paul's remarks at the beginning of this being in New York and a very short, almost clipped and muted reference to Billy Joel performing on "I Saw Her Standing There". I have a recording of the opening show from Halifax, and Paul is quite talkative between songs, truly enjoying performing in front of a live audience and interacting with them. This is as bland as the Live in the US show set from a few years ago, but the sound on that was better.

I have only watched a few minutes, but the DVD seems a whole lot better than any of Paul's DVDs from the past, so for only $14 for the two discs and the DVD, I guess it is a decent deal, though I won't probably ever listen to the show again (preferring the Halifax show).

Thank God (truly) for the Allman Brothers and all the effort they put into allowing us to share and enjoy the music. I have gladly bought many shows this year, though I only attended one. We are lucky ...


You have quite disparate tastes. Having been at Paul's show as well as the Beacon no 2 performers could be more different. For every unscripted solo/moment in an ABB show I am convinced that if you showed up at every single mcCartney show at 9:22 he would be on the same quip. He put on a great show, but just a bit too organized (no spontaneity) for me. The ABB came out on 3/26 and put the pedal to the metal. Paul has to constantly remind the audience through his patter how important he is.

 

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  posted on 11/18/2009 at 09:17 PM
McCartney is a great nostalgic look at the past. Great band that performs admirably. The only problem is that they still have the same scripted "quips" from the 2002 show that they use in the 2009 show! Yikes! I am sure every Paul show is exactly the same. Fun none the less.

The ABB have made their reputation on the live show. You just can't compare the two. It's really apples and oranges.

 

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  posted on 11/19/2009 at 08:00 AM
That sucks, i was at the last P.M. show at citi field and it was great. You just can not compare him to the ABB live ,like night and day
 

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  posted on 11/19/2009 at 08:13 AM
GIGANTIC McCartney fan here!

Having said that - I just don't know why he continues to put out "live" recordings. His shows are indeed, "cookie-cutters". AS emr said, you could probably walk into any of his shows at a specific time and catch the same banter night after night.

I've seen Paul 7 times over the years. His shows are always tight, with a good band playing faithful renditions of Beatles favorites with only a small sampling of his most recent material. Material from his more recent works (aside from the NEWest stuff) gets shelved altogether.

I wish Paul McCartney would enter the next phase of his musical career - playing solo (acoustic guitar and piano) to smaller halls and more intimate audiences.

Earlier this year I passed up seeing Macca at Piedmont Park to catch Steely Dan (a band I'd never seen) at Chastain Park. From all reports, aside from a newer stage design it was just another fantastic Paul McCartney show. I love him, though!

 

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  posted on 11/19/2009 at 08:26 AM
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GIGANTIC McCartney fan here!

Having said that - I just don't know why he continues to put out "live" recordings. His shows are indeed, "cookie-cutters". AS emr said, you could probably walk into any of his shows at a specific time and catch the same banter night after night.

I've seen Paul 7 times over the years. His shows are always tight, with a good band playing faithful renditions of Beatles favorites with only a small sampling of his most recent material. Material from his more recent works (aside from the NEWest stuff) gets shelved altogether.

I wish Paul McCartney would enter the next phase of his musical career - playing solo (acoustic guitar and piano) to smaller halls and more intimate audiences.

Earlier this year I passed up seeing Macca at Piedmont Park to catch Steely Dan (a band I'd never seen) at Chastain Park. From all reports, aside from a newer stage design it was just another fantastic Paul McCartney show. I love him, though!


Eerytime i see Paul (and I go to every tour since my wife loves him) I think back to the anger John had towards him. I think the failure to grow (personally and musically) is a big part of it. No right or wrong; it is what it is. I've said this before. Despite being one of the most famous men on the planet I think Macca is very insecure - and still upset he isn't as famous as Lennon

 

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  posted on 11/19/2009 at 11:37 AM
I saw my first McCartney show at Piedmont Park and it was WONDERFUL. He actually played about 6 songs that were recorded in the past 10 years so he didn't completely ignore his most recent solo phase of his career. Those songs were very good live and rocked more than the originals to an extent.

I had seen the DVDs and TV performances of his current band of this decade and knew they are very tight. I remember being much impressed with this band watching the Super Bowl in 2002 than the his 1990s band lineup. They didn't disapoint live. Since this was my first time, I didn't have an repetition problems of course. I would have switched about 3 Beatles tunes for some more Wings material (played about 7 Wings songs), but it was a great setlist. He stayed away from his wimpy 1980s stuff altogether, thankfully.

Paul's banter was good in Atlanta too. He was funny and seemed genuine and talked a good bit about the park benefit and a few things about Atlanta. If the jokes were the same, a first timer like me didn't know.

Too bad the live album didn't turn out better because I was thoroughly impessed by a 67 year old rocking out for 2 hrs 35 minutes in Atlanta, as a five piece no less.

 

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  posted on 11/28/2009 at 08:16 PM
I have finally had an opportunity to watch the DVD for this release and it is really very good. So much better than Paul's previous "live" concert discs which contain so much extra content in a documentary form. This is a good show, and although some have commented negatively about the crowd shots (free portable video cameras were given out then used in the DVD), that gimmick works pretty well.

This is a good set to get if only for the DVD. With all my negativity, I would certainly love to see him live one day, rehearsed catch phrases and all ...

 

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  posted on 11/28/2009 at 08:29 PM
Just wondering if you have the single disc version or double (DVD)

Best Buy has the double disc with supposedly have the entire show.
I am guessing that single disc doesnt..

I suppose I should pick this up before BB is out of them

 

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  posted on 11/28/2009 at 08:56 PM
i liked the live album from the early 90's i think. trippin the live fantastic or something like that
 

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  posted on 11/28/2009 at 11:11 PM
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Just wondering if you have the single disc version or double (DVD)




I bought the set with two CDs and the single DVD. The second disc has a different performance from one of the TV shows (Letterman I think). The single DVD has the full show from Citi Stadium.

 

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  posted on 11/29/2009 at 02:44 PM
I took my wife to both shows at Fenway for her birthday and they were basically the same show and we loved them both .

 

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  posted on 11/29/2009 at 05:12 PM
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I bought the set with two CDs and the single DVD. The second disc has a different performance from one of the TV shows (Letterman I think). The single DVD has the full show from Citi Stadium.


Thanks! That what I thought.

 

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  posted on 11/29/2009 at 07:53 PM
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GIGANTIC McCartney fan here!

Having said that - I just don't know why he continues to put out "live" recordings. His shows are indeed, "cookie-cutters". AS emr said, you could probably walk into any of his shows at a specific time and catch the same banter night after night.

I've seen Paul 7 times over the years. His shows are always tight, with a good band playing faithful renditions of Beatles favorites with only a small sampling of his most recent material. Material from his more recent works (aside from the NEWest stuff) gets shelved altogether.

I wish Paul McCartney would enter the next phase of his musical career - playing solo (acoustic guitar and piano) to smaller halls and more intimate audiences.

Earlier this year I passed up seeing Macca at Piedmont Park to catch Steely Dan (a band I'd never seen) at Chastain Park. From all reports, aside from a newer stage design it was just another fantastic Paul McCartney show. I love him, though!


from looking at setlists and live albums since 1989 it seems he always does the same thing on every tour. 3-6 tunes from the brand new album he's touring for and then 4-5 other post 1980 tunes not counting the new album. he plays 25-30 tunes a show so after the 10 "newer" tunes the other 20 tunes are basically always the same beatles/wings/70's solo tunes with maybe 1 or 2 rare 70's tunes played. so basically slightly more than half of his setlist never changes

 

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  posted on 11/29/2009 at 09:37 PM
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so basically slightly more than half of his setlist never changes


As good as they are... why change?

 

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  posted on 11/29/2009 at 10:07 PM
he does have other beatles tunes. it would be cool to play a few rarer beatles tunes
 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 12:30 AM
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he does have other beatles tunes. it would be cool to play a few rarer beatles tunes


Have you gone to see him live? if the answer is no then it won't matter to you anyway. If you have gone to see him then you know that he puts on long shows and rocks the joint. He could easily play 30-45 minutes less and the crowd would be thrilled. But he doesn't and gives people a hell of a show.

Honestly Matt. Are you now going to try and trash Paul too?

 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 01:22 AM
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he does have other beatles tunes. it would be cool to play a few rarer beatles tunes


Have you gone to see him live? if the answer is no then it won't matter to you anyway. If you have gone to see him then you know that he puts on long shows and rocks the joint. He could easily play 30-45 minutes less and the crowd would be thrilled. But he doesn't and gives people a hell of a show.

Honestly Matt. Are you now going to try and trash Paul too?


i'm trashing him because i wanted a different tune played? you are ridiculous. even if i haven't seen him live maybe i buy all the live albums and would like different beatles tunes. the crowd is thrilled because its paul mccartney of the beatles. i seem to notice most people have fun at a concert no matter how good or bad someones performance is for 2 reasons. they more than likely went to have a good time and are caught up in the moment. i've never had a bad time at a concert but later i've heard bootlegs of a show i was at and thought to myself "this didn't sound as good as i remember."

 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 01:39 AM
So the answer is no. Then don't let the setlists bug you if you are not going. If you buy a CD then it would only be the one show anyway. Enjoy the music. There are also many shows floating out there from pay-per-views from the last tour. Three hour shows of some of the greatest songs ever written.

The crowd is thrilled because Paul and the band are awesome. Ask anyone who has seen them. I have never seen Paul play close to even a mediocre show. Always a stellar performance.

 

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So the answer is no. Then don't let the setlists bug you if you are not going. If you buy a CD then it would only be the one show anyway. Enjoy the music. There are also many shows floating out there from pay-per-views from the last tour. Three hour shows of some of the greatest songs ever written.

The crowd is thrilled because Paul and the band are awesome. Ask anyone who has seen them. I have never seen Paul play close to even a mediocre show. Always a stellar performance.


i never said he played a bad peformance. in general i was stating most people don't notice if someone is good or bad while at the concert because of the exceitment of being there. a few times i noticed subpar performances. rob halfords voice when i saw priest is just not able to sing certain songs anymore yet they still play them. mark slaughter needs to retire. he blew his voice out a few years ago and then hurt it more doing cartoon voices. i could have sang the slaughter songs better than he did now which is a shame because he was one of the best singers of that style of music with what seemed like an unlimited range

 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 12:21 PM
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i liked the live album from the early 90's i think. trippin the live fantastic or something like that


Same here -- taped all the Beatles stuff -- an excellent Good Day Sunshine from this one
yeah IMO if you had Wings Over America & then this one (TTLFtstic), you'd be pretty well covered on live Paul stuff -- he's so cool that he can't be put into words IMO -- like hotlantim said before, 67 years old & still rocking the place

 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 02:07 PM
Funny... I'm a huge fan, (every release, every rarity, hours and hours of bootlegs) but never excited by a "new live" album... so I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this one.
 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 02:17 PM
Let's go easy on Paul. He's just trying to make up for all those shows The Beatles never played that ended up hurting their legacy...

 

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  posted on 11/30/2009 at 02:18 PM
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GIGANTIC McCartney fan here!

Having said that - I just don't know why he continues to put out "live" recordings. His shows are indeed, "cookie-cutters". AS emr said, you could probably walk into any of his shows at a specific time and catch the same banter night after night.

I've seen Paul 7 times over the years. His shows are always tight, with a good band playing faithful renditions of Beatles favorites with only a small sampling of his most recent material. Material from his more recent works (aside from the NEWest stuff) gets shelved altogether.

I wish Paul McCartney would enter the next phase of his musical career - playing solo (acoustic guitar and piano) to smaller halls and more intimate audiences.

Earlier this year I passed up seeing Macca at Piedmont Park to catch Steely Dan (a band I'd never seen) at Chastain Park. From all reports, aside from a newer stage design it was just another fantastic Paul McCartney show. I love him, though!


Eerytime i see Paul (and I go to every tour since my wife loves him) I think back to the anger John had towards him. I think the failure to grow (personally and musically) is a big part of it. No right or wrong; it is what it is. I've said this before. Despite being one of the most famous men on the planet I think Macca is very insecure - and still upset he isn't as famous as Lennon


First I think the anger from Lennons's viewpoint is greatly exaggerated... (usually from either the Rolling Stone 1970 interviews where he slams EVERYONE except himself & Yoko, or one off sarcastic comments taken out of context. I know, it's just my opinion, but the media focusses so much on the animosity between all of the Beatles and the way I study the Beatles (I actually teach a class on The Beatles at a college near here). I just don't see it as that huge of an issue upon close examination... but that's a subject for a whole different thread...

Anyway, I also don't think that Paul is worried about being more famous than John. In fact, I'd be willing to bet, to the average person, Paul IS more famous than John.

I think if there is something on this level that really bothers Paul about his image verses John's is that people usually support their feelings of liking John more than Paul (if they so feel) with situations, instances and "facts" that just aren't really factual.

Now, I know we have an intelligent group of people here who CAN support why they like John more than Paul (if that is the case), but I don't find that with the average person. People just like to see John the way history paints his image. And well, Paul is still a successful pop-star, it's only natural.

 

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i liked the live album from the early 90's i think. trippin the live fantastic or something like that


Same here -- taped all the Beatles stuff -- an excellent Good Day Sunshine from this one
yeah IMO if you had Wings Over America & then this one (TTLFtstic), you'd be pretty well covered on live Paul stuff -- he's so cool that he can't be put into words IMO -- like hotlantim said before, 67 years old & still rocking the place


I actually do love Tripping the Live Fantastic, I really really loved that band actually...

Anyway, the "Good Day Sunshine" from that tour is actually not on that album, but did come out on a single with "Birthday"...

 
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