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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 09:34 AM
I thought I was pretty jaded and nothing was shocking anymore. I'm not so sure.

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Sixth man arrested in child-rape inquiry
By DONALD BRADLEY
The Kansas City Star

LEXINGTON, Mo. | Hours after a father and his four middle-aged sons shuffled into court Thursday, a sixth man was arrested in connection with an expanding child sexual abuse investigation.

A 55-year-old Kansas City man, identified as an associate of Burrell E. Mohler Sr.’s extended family, was arrested on suspicion of rape of a child less than 14 years old. He was being held in the Lafayette County Jail.

More alleged victims also have been identified since the case went public, according to the Missouri Highway Patrol.

The five Mohlers, shackled in their jail garb and some near tears, were escorted to a Lafayette County courtroom Thursday morning to hear the charges read against them — a string of incestuous outrages allegedly committed more than a decade ago against children of their own family.

Burrell Edward Mohler Sr., 77, of Independence, is alleged to have presided over the abuses that occurred from 1988 to 1995. His four sons, Burrell Edward Mohler Jr., 53, also of Independence; Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, of Columbia; Roland Neil Mohler, 47, of Bates City; and David A. Mohler, 52, of Iowa, also were charged.

The charges appear to pull the covers off a family’s dark secrets, as the men listened to 14 charges ranging from forcible sodomy and rape to use of a child in a sexual performance.

“It’s unspeakable. I can’t think of words that would put this in perspective. I find it repulsive if it’s true,” Darrel Mohler, brother of Burrell Mohler Sr., told The Associated Press. “I’m 72, and this kind of struck me right in the gut.”

Meanwhile, the digging in a rural corner of Lafayette County continued as authorities looked for evidence of sex crimes against the children, bottled memories they supposedly had buried and possibly bodies.

Thursday afternoon, crews moved their backhoe to the front of a garage on the property from a wooded area about 200 yards from the house. The property, south of Bates City, is now owned by a man with no connection to the case.

Lafayette County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh had hinted strongly that more charges could be filed and possibly not just for sexual crimes. “Indications are that an individual or individuals were killed,” the sheriff said, declining to comment further other than to say there could be “numerous locations.”

“The case has taken 100 turns since our last news conference,” said Alumbaugh, again without offering elaboration.

The information on the latest arrest gave no time frame for the allegation, but the alleged victim was a little older than those vaguely described in the earlier charges as under 12. The man arrested is not being named in this article because he had not been charged Thursday.

Only one family member was present as a spectator in the court, Merrill Clark, a first cousin of the senior Mohler. He learned of the case sitting in his Lenexa home when the story came over the television Wednesday night.

“My mouth dropped,” he said.

He said he was there to get a sense of his relatives’ guilt or innocence.

“But I went away not much better than I was before,” he said. “Burrell looks like a broken old man. … His hearing aid wasn’t turned up quite enough. He never looked at me.”

In front of Associate Circuit Judge John Frerking, the handcuffed father asked the sheriff to turn up his hearing aid and to reach into his pocket for his glasses. He kept his eyes closed most of the time.

The next court date was set for Tuesday. The men did not appear to have legal representation, but were told they could apply for public defenders. Frerking set their cash bonds, ranging from $30,000 to $75,000.

The men were arrested Tuesday in coordinated raids, based on allegations of a young woman who said her relatives had molested and had sex with her and other children, sometimes as part of “marriage” rituals, beginning two decades ago. Now 26, she said the abuse had begun when she was 5 and had ended only after she was forced to have an abortion at age 11.

Court documents indicated her once-suppressed memories were supported by other members of the family, some of whom apparently also were victims.

She and others had written of their torment and buried the notes in glass jars somewhere on the 55 acres, she claimed.

“Each of the victims is being interviewed, and we’re still collecting all of that,” said Cpl. Bill Lowe of the Missouri Highway Patrol.

He said about 50 law enforcement officials are involved. “We’re getting substantial amount of leads that we need to track down and verify.”

A Community of Christ statement clarified slightly the role that three of the men had in the church: “The church takes seriously the allegations that have been made and suspended the priesthood licenses of three lay ministers: Burrell Mohler Sr., David Mohler and Jared Mohler.”

Linda L. Booth, church spokeswoman, said Wednesday that none of the Mohlers served in leadership roles or worked with children. Later she said one of the men, whom she refused to identify, had been registered to work with children but that license has been terminated.



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I just can't figure out why the bonds are so low.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 09:44 AM
What a great looking group of people. I am a firm believer in the death penalty for people like this.
 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 09:51 AM
Good God Almighty. Unspeakable.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 10:41 AM
Obviously this is terrible if the allegations are true. Often though, these repressed memory cases don't pan out, and at best are difficult to prove so many yrs later.
 

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I just can't figure out why the bonds are so low.


Perhaps the judge wants them back out on the street for a reason.
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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 12:49 PM
My thoughts are, if the allegations are true, before they're used for target practice they need to be bent over a table for any and everyone who might like to give them some of the same treatment they gave those little girls. I'm thinking every day for a couple of years and then they can be dispatched to the other side.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 12:54 PM
I guess they wont be attending any more "teabagger" rallys,

 

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I thought I was pretty jaded and nothing was shocking anymore. I'm not so sure.

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Sixth man arrested in child-rape inquiry
By DONALD BRADLEY
The Kansas City Star

LEXINGTON, Mo. | Hours after a father and his four middle-aged sons shuffled into court Thursday, a sixth man was arrested in connection with an expanding child sexual abuse investigation.

A 55-year-old Kansas City man, identified as an associate of Burrell E. Mohler Sr.’s extended family, was arrested on suspicion of rape of a child less than 14 years old. He was being held in the Lafayette County Jail.

More alleged victims also have been identified since the case went public, according to the Missouri Highway Patrol.

The five Mohlers, shackled in their jail garb and some near tears, were escorted to a Lafayette County courtroom Thursday morning to hear the charges read against them — a string of incestuous outrages allegedly committed more than a decade ago against children of their own family.

Burrell Edward Mohler Sr., 77, of Independence, is alleged to have presided over the abuses that occurred from 1988 to 1995. His four sons, Burrell Edward Mohler Jr., 53, also of Independence; Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, of Columbia; Roland Neil Mohler, 47, of Bates City; and David A. Mohler, 52, of Iowa, also were charged.

The charges appear to pull the covers off a family’s dark secrets, as the men listened to 14 charges ranging from forcible sodomy and rape to use of a child in a sexual performance.

“It’s unspeakable. I can’t think of words that would put this in perspective. I find it repulsive if it’s true,” Darrel Mohler, brother of Burrell Mohler Sr., told The Associated Press. “I’m 72, and this kind of struck me right in the gut.”

Meanwhile, the digging in a rural corner of Lafayette County continued as authorities looked for evidence of sex crimes against the children, bottled memories they supposedly had buried and possibly bodies.

Thursday afternoon, crews moved their backhoe to the front of a garage on the property from a wooded area about 200 yards from the house. The property, south of Bates City, is now owned by a man with no connection to the case.

Lafayette County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh had hinted strongly that more charges could be filed and possibly not just for sexual crimes. “Indications are that an individual or individuals were killed,” the sheriff said, declining to comment further other than to say there could be “numerous locations.”

“The case has taken 100 turns since our last news conference,” said Alumbaugh, again without offering elaboration.

The information on the latest arrest gave no time frame for the allegation, but the alleged victim was a little older than those vaguely described in the earlier charges as under 12. The man arrested is not being named in this article because he had not been charged Thursday.

Only one family member was present as a spectator in the court, Merrill Clark, a first cousin of the senior Mohler. He learned of the case sitting in his Lenexa home when the story came over the television Wednesday night.

“My mouth dropped,” he said.

He said he was there to get a sense of his relatives’ guilt or innocence.

“But I went away not much better than I was before,” he said. “Burrell looks like a broken old man. … His hearing aid wasn’t turned up quite enough. He never looked at me.”

In front of Associate Circuit Judge John Frerking, the handcuffed father asked the sheriff to turn up his hearing aid and to reach into his pocket for his glasses. He kept his eyes closed most of the time.

The next court date was set for Tuesday. The men did not appear to have legal representation, but were told they could apply for public defenders. Frerking set their cash bonds, ranging from $30,000 to $75,000.

The men were arrested Tuesday in coordinated raids, based on allegations of a young woman who said her relatives had molested and had sex with her and other children, sometimes as part of “marriage” rituals, beginning two decades ago. Now 26, she said the abuse had begun when she was 5 and had ended only after she was forced to have an abortion at age 11.

Court documents indicated her once-suppressed memories were supported by other members of the family, some of whom apparently also were victims.

She and others had written of their torment and buried the notes in glass jars somewhere on the 55 acres, she claimed.

“Each of the victims is being interviewed, and we’re still collecting all of that,” said Cpl. Bill Lowe of the Missouri Highway Patrol.

He said about 50 law enforcement officials are involved. “We’re getting substantial amount of leads that we need to track down and verify.”

A Community of Christ statement clarified slightly the role that three of the men had in the church: “The church takes seriously the allegations that have been made and suspended the priesthood licenses of three lay ministers: Burrell Mohler Sr., David Mohler and Jared Mohler.”

Linda L. Booth, church spokeswoman, said Wednesday that none of the Mohlers served in leadership roles or worked with children. Later she said one of the men, whom she refused to identify, had been registered to work with children but that license has been terminated.



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I just can't figure out why the bonds are so low.


Those guys are going to have to be isolated in prison. Child rapists are not popular.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 02:24 PM
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The five Mohlers, shackled in their jail garb and some near tears, were escorted to a Lafayette County courtroom Thursday morning to hear the charges read against them — a string of incestuous outrages allegedly committed more than a decade ago against children of their own family.
Near tears, huh. Because they've been caught. I'm guessing none of these monsters had the heart to shed any tears for the children they abused over the years. I'll save my tears for the poor children that have had the misfortune of crossing these monsters paths or it would appear being born into their sick version of a family.
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She and others had written of their torment and buried the notes in glass jars somewhere on the 55 acres, she claimed.
This is so heartbreaking ... one can only imagine the terror stories written on these buried notes and the lonely, scared hearts and minds that were driven to record the sad facts of their lives and bury them. This strikes me as such an act of survival by these poor children facing their unimaginable horrors in silence. You are right, Jerry - this bail was set much too low ... no bail would be more appropriate.

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 02:31 PM
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This is so heartbreaking ... one can only imagine the terror stories written on these buried notes and the lonely, scared hearts and minds that were driven to record the sad facts of their lives and bury them. This strikes me as such an act of survival by these poor children facing their unimaginable horrors in silence. You are right, Jerry - this bail was set much too low ... no bail would be more appropriate.


You are right, its horrendous. I consider rape/child molestation, etc to be the most vile thing out there, worse than murder. The victims are effectively murdered, but have to deal with living after it’s over, and many do not recover. They either become reclusive, develop alternate personalities to cope, or become the very monsters that perpetrated the crime on them. It’s a total horror show. I really think rape warrants the death penalty or castration. It actually makes my stomach turn.

 

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Killing them lets them off too easy. Turn them loose in the general population at Reidsville for life.

 

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  posted on 11/13/2009 at 06:13 PM
At the very least, slow painful castration....of everything.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2009 at 10:39 AM
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jeez..wtf????

it's stories like these that are slowly making me associate religious figures with not acts of kindness but with vile acts of evil. I know that these pediphiles/rapists/sodomists/possible murderers may have been victims at one point in time themselves, but man, I just don't see how these guys can wear the religious garb and commit these acts and not see something wrong with themselves.


Because their religion is satanically based and Satan has not risen above the lower desires of tactile pleasure. The Catholic Church should allow their priests to marry and have normal lives, since they don't, they foster homosexual behavior and it's the young children who are at risk of these deviants. If you look at history, God allowed his messengers to marry. They were his representatives to all nations. There's a lesson in that. With regards to Jesus, he did not marry last time he was here because his journey was shortened; but in his last and final incarnation even the Muslims know he will marry and have a family and will then reign over the kingdom once it is established. Judaism has more than 70 false sects, Christianity has more than 71 false sects, and Islam has more than 72 false sects. If you really think about it, there are lots of people doing it the wrong way, which is another reason he will abolish religion and there will be only ONE nation, under his laws.

 

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Killing them lets them off too easy. Turn them loose in the general population at Reidsville for life.


The might corrupt others who are not already corrupted. It is cheaper and better to just assassinate them.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2009 at 10:41 AM
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At the very least, slow painful castration....of everything.


Vengeance is God's jurisdiction to levy. We are only allowed to kill them for certain offenses and this is one of them offenses. You have to follow the laws Allah laid down for human condition problems.

 

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  posted on 11/14/2009 at 10:56 AM
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jeez..wtf????

it's stories like these that are slowly making me associate religious figures with not acts of kindness but with vile acts of evil. I know that these pediphiles/rapists/sodomists/possible murderers may have been victims at one point in time themselves, but man, I just don't see how these guys can wear the religious garb and commit these acts and not see something wrong with themselves.


Because their religion is satanically based and Satan has not risen above the lower desires of tactile pleasure. The Catholic Church should allow their priests to marry and have normal lives, since they don't, they foster homosexual behavior and it's the young children who are at risk of these deviants. If you look at history, God allowed his messengers to marry. They were his representatives to all nations. There's a lesson in that. With regards to Jesus, he did not marry last time he was here because his journey was shortened; but in his last and final incarnation even the Muslims know he will marry and have a family and will then reign over the kingdom once it is established. Judaism has more than 70 false sects, Christianity has more than 71 false sects, and Islam has more than 72 false sects. If you really think about it, there are lots of people doing it the wrong way, which is another reason he will abolish religion and there will be only ONE nation, under his laws.


Hi Gina

I was raised Catholic....I was never molested by a priest and I never worshiped the devil and I don't remember any satanic rituals we did in church....Are you Catholic????

My family taught me to treat people with kindness and to love everyone equally....I do fail at times but I try to live by that code...and here's what I got out the Catholic Church...I can be directly connected to Jesus and God anytime I want...I don't need a priest or a church to talk and be in touch. Catholic are not taught to fear God or Jesus we're taught to embrace they're message and live with dignity....Yes I can live without the silly rituals and costumes but I don't believe I was ever taught any Satanic rituals or worship...just the opposite....You should keep your religious prejudices to yourself...I know nothing of any other churches beliefs and rituals but I'd assume most are pointing the same direction

 

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I was raised Catholic....I was never molested by a priest and I never worshiped the devil and I don't remember any satanic rituals we did in church....Are you Catholic????

My family taught me to treat people with kindness and to love everyone equally....I do fail at times but I try to live by that code...and here's what I got out the Catholic Church...I can be directly connected to Jesus and God anytime I want...I don't need a priest or a church to talk and be in touch. Catholic are not taught to fear God or Jesus we're taught to embrace they're message and live with dignity....Yes I can live without the silly rituals and costumes but I don't believe I was ever taught any Satanic rituals or worship...just the opposite....You should keep your religious prejudices to yourself...I know nothing of any other churches beliefs and rituals but I'd assume most are pointing the same direction


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  posted on 11/14/2009 at 12:56 PM
The phrase "an eye for an eye", Hebrew: &#1506;&#1497;&#1503; &#1514;&#1495;&#1514; &#1506;&#1497;&#1503;, ayin tahat ayin, is a quotation from several passages of the Bible (Leviticus 24:19–21, Exodus 21:22–25, and Deuteronomy 19:21) in which a person who has injured the eye of another is instructed to give his or her own eye in compensation. At the root of this principle is that one of the purposes of the law is to provide equitable retribution for an offended party. It defined and restricted the extent of retribution in the laws of the Old Testament.

The English word talion means a punishment identical to the offence, from the Latin talio. The principle of "an eye for an eye" is often referred to using the Latin phrase lex talionis, the law of talion.


If this is that case, then I'll go back to my original suggestion of bending them over a table every day for the rest of their lives so the prison population can have a 'little fun'. According to the Bible this would be acceptable.

f thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out . . . And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off. --Matt. v. 29, 3O.

Although castration isn't specifically mentioned in the above passage from the Bible, I figure it is covered by it.

 

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Killing them lets them off too easy. Turn them loose in the general population at Reidsville for life.


The might corrupt others who are not already corrupted. It is cheaper and better to just assassinate them.


gina, the general population at Reidsville State Prison can safely assumed to be "corrupted."

 

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At the very least, slow painful castration....of everything.


Vengeance is God's jurisdiction to levy. We are only allowed to kill them for certain offenses and this is one of them offenses. You have to follow the laws Allah laid down for human condition problems.


God doesn't practice "vengeance," gina. That is an enterprise created and perfected by home sapiens.

And Allah didn't lay down any laws. We all have the free will to live our lives any way we want to, and God does not and will not judge us, or punish us, for acts we commit while here in the physical realm. What happens on Earth stays on Earth. Any consequences of our actions will occur in this lifetime, or subsequent lifetimes in the physical realm. Many would say our actions now are also affecting past lives, and future ones, even as our future lives are affecting this current one. But I'm talking linearly, while in reality all our lives are happening concurrently.

Anyway, it is fashionable to think that our Creator laid down a bunch of laws to follow, and will then punish everyone who doesn't, but that is clearly a concept that grew out of a human's mind, and apparently a pretty judgmental one.

 

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Oh, and there is no such animal as "Satan," so there can be no "satanically based" religions. Once again, it all originated in the mind of a human. The word spread, and now people believe in a mythical character for no other good reason that that others believe it, too.

 

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Oh, and there is no such animal as "Satan," so there can be no "satanically based" religions. Once again, it all originated in the mind of a human. The word spread, and now people believe in a mythical character for no other good reason that that others believe it, too.


Just like Santa Claus.

 

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I really liked this one and it seems appropriate to post it again:

Subject: Is Hell exothermic?
The following is supposedly an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well.

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different Religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.

With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my freshman year
that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you, and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh my God."

THIS STUDENT RECEIVED THE ONLY "A"


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And Allah didn't lay down any laws. We all have the free will to live our lives any way we want to, and God does not and will not judge us, or punish us, for acts we commit while here in the physical realm. What happens on Earth stays on Earth. Any consequences of our actions will occur in this lifetime, or subsequent lifetimes in the physical realm. Many would say our actions now are also affecting past lives, and future ones, even as our future lives are affecting this current one. But I'm talking linearly, while in reality all our lives are happening concurrently.



Cool. Prove it.

 

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jeez..wtf????

it's stories like these that are slowly making me associate religious figures with not acts of kindness but with vile acts of evil. I know that these pediphiles/rapists/sodomists/possible murderers may have been victims at one point in time themselves, but man, I just don't see how these guys can wear the religious garb and commit these acts and not see something wrong with themselves.


Because their religion is satanically based and Satan has not risen above the lower desires of tactile pleasure. The Catholic Church should allow their priests to marry and have normal lives, since they don't, they foster homosexual behavior and it's the young children who are at risk of these deviants. If you look at history, God allowed his messengers to marry. They were his representatives to all nations. There's a lesson in that. With regards to Jesus, he did not marry last time he was here because his journey was shortened; but in his last and final incarnation even the Muslims know he will marry and have a family and will then reign over the kingdom once it is established. Judaism has more than 70 false sects, Christianity has more than 71 false sects, and Islam has more than 72 false sects. If you really think about it, there are lots of people doing it the wrong way, which is another reason he will abolish religion and there will be only ONE nation, under his laws.


Gina, I would really like to find what you say to be interesting, but there is so much false information in your posts that I cannot take you seriously. It is obvious that you do not research anything. Try Google sometime.

 
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