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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 03:51 PM
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I don't have to worry about that. I wouldn't give Roy Moore permission to date my daughter and my daughter is mart enough to NOT want Bill Clintons Willey (or anything that comes out of it) in her mouth. But both of you definitely get the Democrat Badge of Honor. Congratulations!

I prefer lower taxes, lower unemployment, economic growth, etc, you know the issues I got scolded for bringing up in a character discussion the other day? Darn, I did it again... This a character discussion.

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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
Bill Clinton was President and 49 years old when he left that stain on the 22 year old interns dress in the oval office when he should have been chasing Osama Bin Laden. Now THAT is character!

Did you see me defend Bill Clinton in this thread or simply point out that you and your ilk constantly deflect when faced with logic?

Then again your idea of logic is that consensual sex with an of age adult is WAAAAY worse than a man of power preying on underage girls. Thatís good stuff, Iím mad I stayed off this forum for so long I needed the laughs


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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:04 PM
Never said you were defending Bill Clinton. But You DID say this,
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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
I am pointing out that while you may be right, there is no precedence for it. Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down. You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven. Think about that while you come up with your next witty post. God, I love this country!

 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:10 PM
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Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down.


Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury. You can't be guilty of getting a consensual BJ from an adult.

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You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven.


Here are the names of Moore's accusers (thus far)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/11/16/timeline-the-acc usations-against-roy-moore/?utm_term=.c365ee409200

 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:17 PM
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Never said you were defending Bill Clinton. But You DID say this,
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ANY elected official owes it to his/her constituents to uphold a certain standard of acceptable social behavior as well as benefiting the community they were elected to represent.
I am pointing out that while you may be right, there is no precedence for it. Recent example, Bill Clinton. Even better Bill Clinton WAS guilty. Admitted it eventually. He didn't step down. You are asking people, even your own, to step down based on accusations. Most of which are either anonymous or have not been proven. Think about that while you come up with your next witty post. God, I love this country!

Bold assumption that the Clintons or Franken are ďmyĒ people.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:19 PM
Cool, Roy has accusers.

Here are Clintons Victims:
Monica Lewenski
Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

You are choosing to miss the point in an effort to make yourself look witty but it only makes people question your intelligence. I'll explain it slowly for you.

Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?


 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:25 PM
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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:29 PM
So that others donít behave the way Bill did. Youíve been crying about Bill on here for how awful he was.
 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:43 PM
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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 04:45 PM
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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 06:13 PM
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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.



In the private sector you would have recourse and your accuser would have the burden of proof.
No so much in politics.

In the private sector you also would not have a tax-payer funded slush fund to pay the accuser off.
It would seem that now in politics just an accusation has become the norm.



 

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  posted on 12/7/2017 at 07:27 PM
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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


If you are referring to Roy Moore, what you are essentially saying is that you believe these women that you listed:

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

But you don't believe Moore's accusers. Correct?

And, because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

 

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  posted on 12/8/2017 at 12:20 AM
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Why should Roy Moore, Donald Trump or Al Franken step down in the face of accusations when Bill Clinton wouldn't?



Well, Al Franken is stepping down, so...because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?

Why is your condemnation/allowance/tolerance of sexual misconduct only run through a political filter?

It's not. If I had sex with an intern 27 years younger than me in my office I would be fired. Wouldn't have to step down. However I would like to think that if I was accused of something I didn't do that I would have the opportunity to face my accuser, perhaps tell my side of the story. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.


If you are referring to Roy Moore, what you are essentially saying is that you believe these women that you listed:

Juanita Broaddrick
Kathleen Willey
Paula Jones

But you don't believe Moore's accusers. Correct?

And, because Bill Clinton, Republican elected officials can do whatever they want when it comes to this kind of thing until the end of time?


Of course because- Bush Reagan good. Clinton Gore bad

 

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  posted on 12/8/2017 at 08:38 AM
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In the private sector you would have recourse and your accuser would have the burden of proof.
No so much in politics.

In the private sector you also would not have a tax-payer funded slush fund to pay the accuser off.
It would seem that now in politics just an accusation has become the norm.


That's not true at all. HR departments can fire people without a burden of proof, and people who are fired are welcome to sue and receive a settlement (of private company funds). Example: FOX News paid off Bill O'Reilly's accusers, and later fired him.

 

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