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  posted on 4/17/2002 at 01:18 PM
been meaning to ask this for a long time, but i got stoned and missed it.
a while back in esquire magazine they did a feature on corkball, from which i got the impression is kind of like stickball.

anyway, the article mentioned the allman brothers band as particularly wicked at the game, duane allman in particular.

anyone know anything about this?

 

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  posted on 4/17/2002 at 02:18 PM
The fount of all ABB wisdom =P Midnight Riders refers to the band playing the game in their apartment together in the early days. (Bet the neighbors loved it.)
I tried, but I can't find Duane's batting average online. I like the idea though, I'd never given it that much thought before.
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  posted on 4/17/2002 at 06:32 PM
the article was centered on a town in pennslyvania i think, where they have a very organized league, and a sporting goods company now makes equipment (used to be mainly home-made).
but there was a couple of detailed references to da brothers, and they portrayed duane as nothin short of fierce.

gotta read that book one of these days.

 

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  posted on 4/17/2002 at 11:26 PM
Haha, if corkball's your interest, the book won't help much. Still, even with the book's faults, it's an interesting read- and as close as the band has come thus far to setting its story down.
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  posted on 4/18/2002 at 07:33 PM
Corkball is a game I grew up playing in Jacksonville. To this day I have never heard of it being played anywhere else. I would love to have the info on the article about it. I brought the game to the brothers and Duane and I were the "team" We would take on everybody else and we were not only undefeated. We always won by a landslide. The way it's played is: you take an old thermos cork (round and bigger on one end) put a dime on the small end (for balance) and wrap the cork and the dime tightly with tape (white medical tape, forget what it's called. You use it for cuts). Then you get an old broom and cut the broom off. that's the bat: a broomstick. The rules are simple. The pitcher pitches the cork (the technique is to pitch underhanded holding the cork between your thumb and the third joint of your middle two fingers). The trick is to flip the cork as hard as you can when you release it giving it as much underspin as possible. A good corkball pitcher can pitch the cork about six inches from the ground and cause it to rise about a foot after it passes the batter. This is very important because the only way to make an out is to swing and miss and the catcher catch the cork. I was a very good pitcher and Duane had absolutely no fear of the bat and was an excellent catcher. Now to score runs you hit the cork pass the pitcher for a single, pass the pine tree for a double and pass the fire hydrant for a triple. Pass the hydrant in air is a home run (of course your markers will depend on the "field" you're playing in). There's no running bases, you just keep track of where the runners are. A single can only advance any runner on base by one base. You keep swinging until you make three outs and then change sides like any other ballgame, keeping count of runs scored. We used to play this game in the "hippy crash pad" at night but the best games were in the vacant lot across the street from an apartment I used to rent in Macon. These games would last for hours sometimes and were always great fun. (of course it's probably more fun when you win).
 

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  posted on 4/19/2002 at 03:52 PM
much better version of the story!
it was in esquire sometime in the last year, year and a half. i will try to find the date of the issue.

 

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  posted on 4/19/2002 at 05:41 PM
the article appears in esquire magazine, the june 2000 issue, p. 64. it's under the monthly feature called' the game' and the title is "the sport that time forgot" by charles p. pierce. that issue is accessible on esquire.com, but the corkball article is not a hot link. most libraries have esquire on microfilm.

as i look over the article again, it's st. louis that has the league, called the sportsman's corkball league, which has been in existence for 50 years. the claim is that st. louisans played it on aircraft carriers during WWll. since jax is a navy town maybe that's the connection. the company that makes the corkballs and bats is the markwort sporting goods co., st. louis.

[Edited on 4/19/2002 by aiq]

 

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  posted on 8/9/2002 at 05:53 PM
I'd always wanted to ask Butch about this, but now the question has been answered for me: Butch is the nephew of former major league pitcher Virgil Trucks, who spent most of his career with the Detroit Tigers.
Here -- this was a coincidence -- is a piece about Virgil's 1952 season, one of the weirdest years any hurler ever had. Virgil had only 5 wins against 19 losses, but among those wins were TWO no-hitters! It was quite a weird year, read on...[Edited on 8/9/2002 by Marley]

 

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  posted on 8/12/2002 at 10:27 AM
Damn the things you learn -- Butchy a newphew of Virgil Trucks?!?! I'm a big trivia buff and knew about his 1952 season with his won-lost record and the two no hitters etc.
Wow -- what a connection. And to think I learned this after the first ball last Saturday at beautiful historic Fenway Park -- still the finest park in the majors, although Wrigley has a valid claim -- was thrown out by Butch and Derek. Smokin' man.
OK, quick trivia: Who was the only player ever to pinch hit for both Babe Ruth and Ted Williams.

 

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  posted on 8/13/2002 at 06:07 AM
Caroll Hardy was the only person to ever pinch hit for Ted Williams. That was in 1960 though.
 

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  posted on 8/13/2002 at 09:47 AM
I'm not sure where I saw this, although I think it may have been on the Fenway Park scoreboard some years ago, but as far as I know, Duffy Lewis, who played for the Sox in the mid-30s early 40s, pinch hit for both Ted Williams and Babe Ruth. I'm sure the Babe was pinch-hit for in the twilight of his career with the Boston Braves. Maybe I'm recalling something incorrectly though.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 12:35 AM
This was on SportsCenter just a few days after Ted Williams died, actually, I think it was Duffy Lewis who pinch hit for both men.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 01:48 PM
Thanks for that confirmation Marley -- didn't think I was recalling it incorrectly.

BTW, you're quite right, the name of that song is indeed Berry's Tune, not Blues For BO like I thought. Guess I got it mixed up with one of the chapters in the book. Thanks again man.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 03:04 PM
I'm not sure where espn would be getting this kind of info from. Duffy Lewis was the first player to pinch hit for Babe Ruth in 1912. His last game was in like 1921. Ted Williams' first game wasn't until 1939.
 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 03:18 PM
Philip is pretty close to being right. Duffy Lewis' last game was in 1921. Ted Williams' first game was 1939. Lewis would have never pinch hit for Williams.

'Course Babe Ruth's first game was in 1914, so Lewis didn't pinch hit for the Babe in 1912...not sure when he did that...

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 05:15 PM
May not be an ESPN mistake, I could be misremembering something. If the dates say it didn't happen, it didn't. But I know they said someone did it- not that they couldn't have been wrong.

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 07:45 PM
I just don't see how it could have happend as Babe Ruth's last game was in 1935 and Ted Williams' first game was in 1939...

They may have said the only person to pinch hit for both Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig was someone (?). anyone know if that happened...it could have happened in 1923 or 24 before Gehrig started his streak...

Not that it really matters I guess..hehe. It can't rank up there with some of the more intense corkball games that took place in the early 70's....[Edited on 8/15/2002 by Sandman]

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 08:39 PM
God I love baseball. I hope the players and the owners get their act together.
 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 09:01 PM
No better sport than baseball...IMHO...tis a great pastime...in fact, baseball tonight is on as I type...gotta go...hehe

 

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  posted on 8/14/2002 at 11:15 PM
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Babe Ruth's last game was in 1935 and Ted Williams' first game was in 1939...

Well, if the guy played from 1933 to 1940 -- just to pull two numbers -- it would've been definitely possible. I'm starting to think that the only way to figure this out is to ask ESPN.

 

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  posted on 8/15/2002 at 08:16 AM
Ahhh, very true.

Send an email to Peter Gammons, he usually responds to questions like that, plus he's a Deadhead...which is pretty cool!

 

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  posted on 8/15/2002 at 12:06 PM
Count me in too -- love baseball & just about all sports.

I'm very intrigued by this question now. Someone definitely pinch hit both for the Babe and the Kid -- I really thought it was Duffy Lewis. I know for sure the Babe's career began in 1914, not 1912. I'll try to find out a little more on the span of Duffy Lewis' career. You could be correct indeed Sandman, maybe it concluded in 1921 -- where did you get that info from, just out of curiosity?

 

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  posted on 8/15/2002 at 12:48 PM
Stephen,
Just go to www.baseballreference.com and type in Duffy Lewis (or any player for that matter) and they have every stat you could want including the year they started and ended their careers - a lot of good stuff...

 

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