captskipper
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posted on 4/12/2008 at 05:23 PM |
quote:
quote:
To further comment on the verification of
the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago who was on the
StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that tape together.
Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material is in fact a
compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not one show
What's the likelihood of the owners of the tapes making both shows
available? Mix and match is all right but I really like the continuity,
comments, etc. that an unbroken show provides.
I think youre not alone in those thoughts Billastro but unfortunately we
dont live in Perfectville and the full shows are long gone. The compilation
was done by the sound crew within close proximity to when they did the
actual show and thats all that was saved for posterity
Billastro
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posted on 4/13/2008 at 12:19 AM |
quote:
quote:
quote:
To further comment on the verification of
the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago who was on the
StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that tape together.
Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material is in fact a
compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not one show
What's the likelihood of the owners of the tapes making both shows
available? Mix and match is all right but I really like the continuity,
comments, etc. that an unbroken show provides.
I think youre not alone in those thoughts Billastro but unfortunately we
dont live in Perfectville and the full shows are long gone. The compilation
was done by the sound crew within close proximity to when they did the
actual show and thats all that was saved for posterity
Billastro
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harvey
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posted on 4/13/2008 at 03:17 PM |
quote:
To further comment on the
verification of the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago who
was on the StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that
tape together. Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material
is in fact a compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not
one show
Thanks for the additional info Skip  ..... Haven't
seen much of you around here of late, hope you are keeping well my friend
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captskipper
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posted on 4/13/2008 at 06:38 PM |
quote:
quote:
To further comment on the verification of
the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago who was on the
StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that tape together.
Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material is in fact a
compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not one show
Thanks for the additional info Skip ..... Haven't
seen much of you around here of late, hope you are keeping well my friend
--------------------------------------------
greetings guvnor Harvey, been working on a number of projects lately and
attending to some personal family issues, hence not much PC time (except
the audio pc) BTW, anybody put in any votes for the boston commons show at
the jammys web site? think its www.jammys.com. I saw it on anything goes
thread awhile back. ____________________
There ya go man, keep as cool as ya can, face miles of trials with smiles,
It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave...keep on
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dzobo
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posted on 4/14/2008 at 01:16 AM |
quote:
To further comment on
the verification of the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago
who was on the StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that
tape together. Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material
is in fact a compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not
one show
While I can't swear to it after some 38 years, I'm pretty sure there was
only one performance by both bands that night, starting either at 7 or 8
PM. I remember the Mountain Jam and very much doubt that the band would
have chosen to do it at an early show if there was also going to be a later
performance.
Regarding the the light show person, I'm wondering if he is recalling
9-19-71 when there definitely were two shows. He may have been at both
events and combined details. I went to a lot of shows at Stony Brook and
recall reel to reels being run from the main sound console at several.
Skip, any chance you can contact this person again and check what he can
swear by? If he has an available e-mail address I'd enjoy following up.
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captskipper
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posted on 4/15/2008 at 08:38 PM |
quote:
quote:
To further comment on the verification of
the 7/10/70 date I contacted a fellow about a year ago who was on the
StonyBrook sound and light crew who actually helped put that tape together.
Just for everyone's info & records the circulating material is in fact a
compilation of the early and late show from 7/10/70 and not one
show
While I can't swear to it after some 38 years, I'm pretty sure there was
only one performance by both bands that night, starting either at 7 or 8
PM. I remember the Mountain Jam and very much doubt that the band would
have chosen to do it at an early show if there was also going to be a later
performance.
Regarding the the light show person, I'm wondering if he is recalling
9-19-71 when there definitely were two shows. He may have been at both
events and combined details. I went to a lot of shows at Stony Brook and
recall reel to reels being run from the main sound console at several.
Skip, any chance you can contact this person again and check what he can
swear by? If he has an available e-mail address I'd enjoy following up.
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I talked with Moyssi extensively about all the Stony Brook shows including
others besides the ABB. He definetly remembers 2 shows & remembers doin the
compilation with the other sound & light guys. He is a huge ABB fan along
with being on that crew. Also remembers Mountain not bein very happy
following the ABB that nite. Im in the process of mastering the Mountain
late set from that nite which Moyssi provided me. And to answer your main
question, I trust Moyssi's info and integrity as his info is off the reel
to reel compilation they made which is in his possession ____________________
There ya go man, keep as cool as ya can, face miles of trials with smiles,
It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave...keep on
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dzobo
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posted on 4/16/2008 at 01:29 AM |
quote:
I talked with Moyssi
extensively about all the Stony Brook shows including others besides the
ABB. He definetly remembers 2 shows & remembers doin the compilation with
the other sound & light guys. He is a huge ABB fan along with being on that
crew. Also remembers Mountain not bein very happy following the ABB that
nite. Im in the process of mastering the Mountain late set from that nite
which Moyssi provided me. And to answer your main question, I trust
Moyssi's info and integrity as his info is off the reel to reel compilation
they made which is in his possession
Thanks for following up, Skip. Moyssi sounds very credible. No way
meaning to challenge his integrity (only his memory). The proof is in the
reels. Does he happen to recall full setlists? Were two Mountain Jams
played that night? Inquiring minds want to know. 
BTW, please check your PM's. ____________________
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harvey
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posted on 7/5/2008 at 11:07 AM |
| Finally got around to some outstanding updates on the information ...
including the addition of the "Peach Cobbler 6" show ... please refer to
the first post on page one for the updated info. ____________________
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Slimzimm
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posted on 7/5/2008 at 11:13 AM |
| Thanks Harvey for all your efforts on this documentation!! ____________________
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tonewoods
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posted on 7/6/2008 at 11:21 PM |
You might change the date of the UCR gig from 1/20/70 to 1/24/70...
See: http://www.newsroom.ucr.edu/timeline.html
In my mind, it could be 1/26...
Still sluthin'...
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harvey
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posted on 7/7/2008 at 12:40 PM |
quote:
You might change the date
of the UCR gig from 1/20/70 to 1/24/70...
See: http://www.newsroom.ucr.edu/timeline.html
In my mind, it could be 1/26...
Still sluthin'...
Thanks very much for the link. To summarise .....
This show has always been listed / traded as 1/20/70, however, the
following is published in the UCR (University of California – Riverside)
timeline database:
quote:
Jan. 24, 1970 -- The
Allman Brothers Band spend the afternoon playing soulful rock on the grassy
knoll near the bell tower. Crowd size varies all day.
The ABB database has them listed as playing the Whiskey A-Go-Go in Los
Angeles from Thursday 22nd to Sunday 25th inclusive, so with Riverside
being a suburb of LA it would make sense that the free gig was during this
time, however, the ABB database also has them listed as playing the
Fillmore West in San Francisco from Thursday 15th to Sunday 18th inclusive,
so as they were on the west coast for that entire period either date could
be true.
I await further information on this before changing the listed (and traded)
date.
Keep on sluthin'
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tonewoods
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posted on 7/7/2008 at 03:33 PM |
"The ABB database has them listed as playing the Whiskey A-Go-Go in Los
Angeles from Thursday 22nd to Sunday 25th inclusive..."
OK, if I had to bet the farm on a date, I would go with the 26th...
I'm probably the source for the 20th date, based on who-knows-what 35 years
ago...
This was way before I had access to the Whisky dates, the internet, etc.
etc...
It was a guess, and in retrospect, a pretty good one...
I used to trade tapes heavily back in the day (including this one), and
that's how the date got written into the record....
OK, here's what I do know...
Duane told me that they had just come from the Whiskey the previous
evening, and I got the impression they were just killing time on a
beautiful January day in the California desert on their way to the next
gig...
They had a Winnebago, and an equipment truck...
If I had to guess, I'd say this gig took place on a weekday. I remember
cutting classes, and Craig (the taper) was on his way to class w/tape
recorder in hand, by chance...
By the way, I think the journalist Joel Selvin had something to do
with lining all this up...
I know he was there, and I think he might of suggested to the band that
they come out and play...
I think Joel was attending UCR, or had some connection to the school...
The above is conjecture, BTW, but I think it will hold up.
I tried to contact Joel about this back in '95 or so, and didn't hear back.
If anyone knows him, drop him a line....
I'd love to know the whole story too....
BTW, I have a call in to Craig Mack, who originally taped the 35 minutes or
so that exists of this day...
What circulates is probably my tape transfer (especially if your copy has
the Whiskey "Dreams" tacked onto it), and so it is at least 2
generations removed from the master, and probably not all that carefully
transferred...
So-ooo, we'll see what I can come up with...
For you folks who haven't had a listen to the tape, Duane's solo on "Oh
Pretty Woman" is worth the price of admission...
It smokes, and really stands the test of time, and just hints at what the
band sounded like that day...
OK, enough memory farts for now...
I'll let you know if I can get closer to the master....
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harvey
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posted on 7/7/2008 at 07:29 PM |
Thank you so much for all this additional information. The reason I
started this thread was in the hope that people who had first hand stories
would post here, and I have very much enjoyed reading your account of your
experience. As someone separated by an ocean (I'm English living in the
UK) and deprived of access to the ABB in concert until 1974 at Knebworth,
it gives me so much pleasure to read these stories. Please find out
whatever additional info you can and I will gladly update the thread
appropriately.
Thanks very much ... all the best ____________________
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PeachNutt
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posted on 7/7/2008 at 08:40 PM |
TW,
That sounds fanastic.....we look forward to hearing from you again 
sure hope there might be more out there somewhere....
[Edited on 7/9/2008 by PeachNutt] ____________________
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tonewoods
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posted on 7/7/2008 at 11:02 PM |
"sure hope there might more out there somewhere.... "
Well, there's no "more"...
What we have is what we get...
But I'd like to get it in the best possible quality for posterior...
Errr, posterity...
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tonewoods
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posted on 7/8/2008 at 01:46 AM |
OK, maybe I'm getting a little anal here....
But check out the forensic weather report for Riverside on January 26th,
1970....
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KRAL/1970/1/26/Da
ilyHistory.html
67 degrees vs. 60 for the 24th...
The pic looks like the former, no?
Plus, we know they just played the Whiskey the night before, and not
in any hurry to get anywhere, much less hustle back into LA, set up again,
and resume their Whiskey engagement....
All right, enough already...
I'll set my Wayback Machine for January 26th, 1970...
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harvey
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posted on 7/8/2008 at 08:42 AM |
Sounds like a pretty convincing arguement for the 26th being the correct
date to me.
Also, if you scribbled a date down on the original tape then 26 could
potentially be misread as 20 and hence the 1/20 date in circulation
Hope you manage to get in touch with Craig ... if he still has the original
master tape then there are people around this site who can work wonders in
the digital world ... ____________________
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posted on 12/2/2008 at 06:54 PM |
bump - for convenience
[Edited on 12/2/2008 by scotiadave] ____________________
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posted on 12/3/2008 at 12:32 AM |
thanks
now I know how much work I have ahead of me
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harvey
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posted on 1/11/2009 at 07:45 AM |
01/20/70 = 01/26/70 ~ updated ...
Any additional input from others who attended any of the other shows listed
would be much appreciated ...
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tonewoods
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posted on 1/12/2009 at 11:20 AM |
quote:
01/20/70 = 01/26/70 ~
updated ...
Thanks....
I feel that's the right date....
Master of UC Riverside located....
Will be available sometime down the road....
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PeachNutt
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posted on 1/12/2009 at 12:32 PM |
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posted on 1/12/2009 at 01:36 PM |
quote:
quote:
01/20/70 = 01/26/70 ~ updated ...
Master of UC Riverside located....
Will be available sometime down the road....
Excellent news ... ____________________
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posted on 1/12/2009 at 02:02 PM |
5-9-70
anybody know anything about this one? the copy i have sounds great and
matches up to the info on etree.
is it actually a different date? ____________________
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http://db.etree.org/somecallme...tim
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harvey
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posted on 1/12/2009 at 04:33 PM |
| It is 5-2-70 ____________________
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