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  posted on 10/31/2014 at 01:11 PM
In an interview with Ticket Sarasota, former Allman Brothers guitarist Dickey Betts commented on the band’s retirement as well as his memories of Duane Allman. Betts, currently touring with his band Great Southern, said that the band’s retirement “makes it easier on my band because half their show is **** I wrote, which I do in my show now.”Betts also went on to say, “I don’t have to do Gregg Allman songs. It will be easier as far as people understanding. I kind of question whether to say this or not, but it’s almost like the Allman Brothers turned into an Allman Brothers tribute band.” The guitarist also fondly recalled his time with Duane Allman, saying, “Duane and I used to have a little wine and we’d sit and talk about how screwed up it is that every good band you get together, the guitar players start getting jealous of each other and start trying to hotdog out each other and ruin the whole thing. Duane and I had an understanding, like an old soul kind of understanding, of let’s play together. And then I wrote ‘Elizabeth Reed,’ and instead of Duane being jealous of it, he said, ‘That is the greatest thing, man.’”
 
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  posted on 11/12/2014 at 01:34 AM
not only that, but since when did showing emotion (other than the music flowing out of you) while playing matter?

2 examples that come to mind are Derek Trucks and John Entwistle.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2014 at 02:07 PM
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Pedro shows more emotion playing than all of the bass players the ABB ever had put together.



Please, how can you even mention this guy with the others?

 

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  posted on 11/11/2014 at 01:55 PM
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Many say Derek looks uninspired....


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Many say that about Derek and then many follow that up with how ironic it is considering the sounds coming out of his amp.

I think this is a primary difference here, if we absolutely MUST compare Duane to Derek (LOL!), is that while they both have low-energy stage presence, only one of them cancels out any perceived boredom with their guitar sound.





The first time I heard Duane Betts play was maybe 20 years ago. The ABB brought him out for a tune or two. I thought his playing was sort of weak. A few years later I heard him play with the ABB again and his playing was much better this time. Not great but good. I haven't heard him play since, so I don't know if he's improved more or not.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2014 at 01:51 PM
I know when they are going to play Les Brers by the way Derek moves. He sorta moves his guitar neck back and forth like he is spraying a firehose. The slow beginning of the song doesn't make it very easy to identify (for me anyway...) so I rely on his actions.
 

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  posted on 11/5/2014 at 08:41 AM
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even his son looks like he'd usually be elsewhere. outside of the bass player, no one is paying much homage to the music that is being presented.

When I first saw Lamar Williams with the band, the thought I came away with was...that guy played for close to three hours, and never moved anything but his fingers! Some might have thought he was uninspired....
Pedro shows more emotion playing than all of the bass players the ABB ever had put together.
Oteil, shows more emotion when playing the all of the past ABB players did put together.
And if you really think about it....how many different stances does Derek stand in during a performance with the ABB? One?
Many say Derek looks uninspired....

 

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  posted on 11/5/2014 at 12:26 AM
man, i can accept that dickey isn't the player he once was. for his age and lifestyle, that is completely acceptable. we all know that a certain 66 year old member of the ABB is often a musical anchor to the rest of the band. but geez, dickey really ought to surround himself with a crackerjack band. they are generally sloppy and uninspired. even his son looks like he'd usually be elsewhere. outside of the bass player, no one is paying much homage to the music that is being presented. that's the real shame...

 

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  posted on 11/4/2014 at 09:16 PM
The Allman Brothers band as an Allman Brothers Tribute Band ?...Its more like for part of the show they were always a Dickey Betts Tribute band


[Edited on 11/13/2014 by Haisija]

 

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  posted on 11/4/2014 at 05:41 PM
I got to see Dickey in may and was surprised how on top of it all he seemed. Setlist wasn't expecting either, no ramblin man or 7 turns but Dickey played better then I saw him in 05 and 09. Seemed sharp. Now great southern doesn't have the sound quality and hreat sounding venues but Dickey played well. That was in Memphis this year
 

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  posted on 11/4/2014 at 01:40 PM
peach master wrote: Does dickey have his demons? Yes he still does but I an no saint and neither is Dickey. I saw dickey this past summer and he was in fine form. I took this video. Nobody in the world has the tone like this man.
Ed

So what you are saying is "he's no angel".... sorry couldn't resist.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 08:41 PM
Well this is the Dickey I think of. Just being a musician and enjoying himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4WdV7BKUg



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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 05:17 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgv5iPlfMB4

Well...that was certainly an abomination. It was even worse live!
No one was on the same page in the song. The tones of the guitars was god awful. And did you see the way the mean ol' ogre yelled and screamed at his guitar tech?!

Duane Betts looked very bored.

Kind of reminds me of Derek when he's not with band too...















 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 04:51 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgv5iPlfMB4

Well...that was certainly an abomination. It was even worse live!
No one was on the same page in the song. The tones of the guitars was god awful. And did you see the way the mean ol' ogre yelled and screamed at his guitar tech?!

Duane Betts looked very bored.
















 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 04:24 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgv5iPlfMB4

Well...that was certainly an abomination. It was even worse live!
No one was on the same page in the song. The tones of the guitars was god awful. And did you see the way the mean ol' ogre yelled and screamed at his guitar tech?!


Does anyone who puts a slide bar on their finger, just sound good?

Highly mediocre.

I still think Dickey would be best suited to kick this music to the curb and get back to his "Highway Call" roots. That, would be cool.

 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 02:10 PM
The sad part is people thinking Dickey can't play. Is he in his prime ? No he is almost 71 years old. Its like trying to teach the blind colors it can't be done. That's how it is with the Dickey Betts haters.
You will never be able to change a closed mind. Does dickey have his demons? Yes he still does but I an no saint and neither is Dickey. I saw dickey this past summer and he was in fine form. I took this video. Nobody in the world has the tone like this man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf2g7D5hnkQ

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 01:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgv5iPlfMB4

Well...that was certainly an abomination. It was even worse live!
No one was on the same page in the song. The tones of the guitars was god awful. And did you see the way the mean ol' ogre yelled and screamed at his guitar tech?!



















 

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We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
Brother against brother....

 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 12:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgv5iPlfMB4
 

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  posted on 11/3/2014 at 12:30 PM
I love Dickey but the fact is he was kicked out of the ABB because he CAN'T PLAY ANYMORE. Sad but true. Period.
 

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  posted on 11/2/2014 at 04:58 PM
The fax are I mean facts. The Allman Brothers band can not play any concert without the music that Dickey Betts had his hand in composing. Dickey has most of time taken the high road in this so called feud. I would imagine Dickey has feelings for that band he is only human. But in all this ending of a legendary band for some its not about the music its about the money.
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  posted on 11/2/2014 at 01:01 PM
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I would say the part about the band being "an allman bros. tribute band" is false.
Yes that is absolutely false. He knew he was wrong to say it too. None of the ABB have commented on DB & GS being a tribute band even though they are structured just tad (like completely) like the ABB. They don't schedule interviews to bash DB. They agree to do interviews and deal with the obvious questions. Maybe not so well on occasion but it sure could have been worse.

You know it was DB that let them down, not the other way around. A little more re-hab and a lot less lawyering would have gone a long way. His ego said "They can't make it without me". Turns out they did and they learned it was better and more enjoyable without him. But the fact remains he chose not to come back.

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Re last nights show, I hope it was great! No one said he was not generous.

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  posted on 11/2/2014 at 09:09 AM
Went and and saw typical Dickey last night....and he was being his typical Dickey self.

Giving his time & talent so some kids who might not otherwise eat a good meal on Thanksgiving and Christmas, and have a couple toys to play with like other kids who might not be stuck in such a desperate situation.

Tapping his heart as he told everyone who came how much he appreciated all who where there...for taking the time, and spending their hard earned cash, for such a great cause.

Going on a drunken political ramble by saying..."a lot of people died so you could vote, so go out and vote. I don't care WHO you vote for...just vote"

Taking his time, even though he collected no money himself for the show he just did, to talk and sign for fans waiting to see him after the free gig.

Gregg does that stuff twice on lots of Sunday's....

Then...to have to listen to....the tone of that guitar.
It all just sucked....

 

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We stood together thru thick and thin,yeah we made the best of it all back then.
Then I guess time took it's toll,cut me deep,cut me cold.
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  posted on 11/2/2014 at 08:33 AM
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Some of you act like how dare you criticize the ABB.


Nope, not at all, just makes him no better than they are, now that he's dropped down to their level.

Me?.. I am no more a fan of Gregg's child like behavior and missed cues than I am of the stories of Dickey's bullying and his obviously deteriorated playing.

But skill sets?...Gimme what's left of the ABB and their takes of IMOER, Jessica, etc. over Great Southern, every day of the week.



And twice on Sunday!


Agreed; but I think DB & GS concerts are going to get more popluar now

 

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  posted on 11/1/2014 at 06:07 PM
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Some of you act like how dare you criticize the ABB.


Nope, not at all, just makes him no better than they are, now that he's dropped down to their level.

Me?.. I am no more a fan of Gregg's child like behavior and missed cues than I am of the stories of Dickey's bullying and his obviously deteriorated playing.

But skill sets?...Gimme what's left of the ABB and their takes of IMOER, Jessica, etc. over Great Southern, every day of the week.



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  posted on 11/1/2014 at 05:13 PM
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After 14 years of Gregg and the little drummer boy bashing Dickey and Dickey not saying one negative word at all. Now he calls them a n cover band( which I agree with) Some of you act like how dare you criticize the ABB. Man some of you can sure dish it out but you can't take it when you are on the receiving end. Thin skinned in my book.


People here have been critical of the ABB. Such as them getting rid of Moogis/live show streaming, high ticket prices, songs that get played too often, canceled Beacon shows/Beacon shows without Gregg, bands like ratdog opening, and how other bands like phish/gov't mule/DTB/TTB/Jaimoe's Jasssz Band and even Devon Allman's honeytribe allow people to trade audience recorded shows via bit torrent but the ABB doesn't.

If you've read older interviews from DB he's basically called the ABB a "tribute band/cover band"; but you can't expect him to be happy at all about being kicked out of the ABB.

 

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  posted on 11/1/2014 at 03:50 PM
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After 14 years of Gregg and the little drummer boy bashing Dickey and Dickey not saying one negative word at all. Now he calls them a n cover band( which I agree with) Some of you act like how dare you criticize the ABB. Man some of you can sure dish it out but you can't take it when you are on the receiving end. Thin skinned in my book.


I do know based on who I would wan't in a street fight next to me:

1 - Warren wouldn't fight. He'd probably just round up others to do it.

2 - Derek is a nice guy; but I don't think he can beat up Susan

3 - Gregg - not a fighter. He's been married more times than he's been in a fight for sure. Probably call the police.

4 - Jaimo would fall asleep

5 - Butch would pretend to fight and get his ass kicked in.

6 - Marc probably can street fight

7 - Dickey is the guy I'd want there; even if he decided to bite off Evander Hollyfields ear


This reads like fighting is much more important to you than music.


I give my music opinions all the time (see above) You can't convince me after all these years that "V" doesn't know sarcasm?

 
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